2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[LyricalRico]

Well, we can't trade for a backup Center, as Rico suggests, because we have nothing to trade. We have 5 guys under contract.

Depends on how the offseason works out. Trades don't have to be player-for-player when there is cap space involved. Even with the cap going up, teams may still need to maneuver in order to position themselves for other moves. As my man Kevin Garnett said, "Anything's possible!"

[I_Like_Dirt]

Depends on how the offseason works out. Even with the cap going up, teams may still look to maneuver in order to position themselves for other moves. As my man Kevin Garnett said, "Anything's possible!"

Ernie's working the strings on that Oubre, cap space, and 2 future 2nd rounders for Tyson Chandler and cash trade as we speak.

In all seriousness, though, I think there may be a few trades as a few teams manoever to make cap space once they get commitments from their FAs. Those kinds of trades rarely result in good players getting dropped and usually cost a pick or prospect or something, but there will be deals of that sort out there, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Koufos as a guy available for that kind of trade.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Depends on how the offseason works out. Even with the cap going up, teams may still look to maneuver in order to position themselves for other moves. As my man Kevin Garnett said, "Anything's possible!"

Ernie's working the strings on that Oubre, cap space, and 2 future 2nd rounders for Tyson Chandler and cash trade as we speak.

In all seriousness, though, I think there may be a few trades as a few teams manoever to make cap space once they get commitments from their FAs. Those kinds of trades rarely result in good players getting dropped and usually cost a pick or prospect or something, but there will be deals of that sort out there, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Koufos as a guy available for that kind of trade.

You left out the top-5 protected first rounder the Wiz would include.

[I_Like_Dirt]

True, it's only fair. Those 2nd rounders aren't even in the league yet and might not amount to anything. Plus, what are the odds that either Oubre or that 1st rounder ever achieve what Chandler has achieved in the NBA? It's a no-brainer! Plus, Chandler is a great way to use the excess cap money left over after a bigtime free agent signing of Luol Deng! To be fair, too, Ernie only takes that trade if he fails on his first option at center in the offseason, but Roy Hibbert is unrestricted and can sign with whoever he wants, so it isn't Ernie's fault he chose elsewhere. Man, 2016 free agency is absolutely hilarious and will continue to be so right up until it actually happens, at which point it's going to be depressing for most of the league.

[gambitx777]

I think OKC winning the title might be the best thing for us and teams hoping to get KD, because there would be no unfinished business to worry about. He could say goodbye knowing he gave them a title! He would have intensive to leave, to prove that he can win anywhere with any one. Just like Shaq did. He might even be more open to going home because he has his ring now he can focus on bringing one home. But either way I want to see him win one! I do love KD

[pcbothwel]

I think OKC winning the title might be the best thing for us and teams hoping to get KD, because there would be no unfinished business to worry about. He could say goodbye knowing he gave them a title! He would have intensive to leave, to prove that he can win anywhere with any one. Just like Shaq did. He might even be more open to going home because he has his ring now he can focus on bringing one home. But either way I want to see him win one! I do love KD

Not going to happen. I like KD, but his personality is not one of a "Trailblazer" who would do something unexpected like that. Westbrook has that personality, not KD. If the Thunder win the title and KD leaves to never winning another ring, there would be a cloud of mystery about "what the Thunder could of done if KD never left?". 30 for 30 style.

He'll immediately sign a 1&1 contract to make another run with Westbrook and Co. That way he gets chance for a 2nd ring and when they leave the following year, it will be viewed as KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka leaving. Not "KD threw away a chance at a dynasty"

[gambitx777]

I think OKC winning the title might be the best thing for us and teams hoping to get KD, because there would be no unfinished business to worry about. He could say goodbye knowing he gave them a title! He would have intensive to leave, to prove that he can win anywhere with any one. Just like Shaq did. He might even be more open to going home because he has his ring now he can focus on bringing one home. But either way I want to see him win one! I do love KD

Not going to happen. I like KD, but his personality is not one of a "Trailblazer" who would do something unexpected like that. Westbrook has that personality, not KD. If the Thunder win the title and KD leaves to never winning another ring, there would be a cloud of mystery about "what the Thunder could of done if KD never left?". 30 for 30 style.

He'll immediately sign a 1&1 contract to make another run with Westbrook and Co. That way he gets chance for a 2nd ring and when they leave the following year, it will be viewed as KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka leaving. Not "KD threw away a chance at a dynasty"

Not terrible reasoning. but I guess we shall see. I just for sure don't see them all staying there long term.

[TheSecretWeapon]

My guess: Durant and Westbrook both end up staying with OKC for the rest of their careers.

[payitforward]

Good God -- do tell me why, just having one a title, Kevin Durant would want to come here and play with Markieff Morris?? Because there's absolutely no good team he could go to?

[payitforward]

Well, we can't trade for a backup Center, as Rico suggests, because we have nothing to trade. We have 5 guys under contract.

Depends on how the offseason works out. Trades don't have to be player-for-player when there is cap space involved. Even with the cap going up, teams may still need to maneuver in order to position themselves for other moves. As my man Kevin Garnett said, "Anything's possible!"

It would be no surprise for there to be something here that I don't understand, and if you say we can make a trade I assume you have something in mind. But, you have to give something in a trade, right? What "something" do we have? What tradeable asset? I'd be glad to know....

[TheSecretWeapon]

Well, we can't trade for a backup Center, as Rico suggests, because we have nothing to trade. We have 5 guys under contract.

Depends on how the offseason works out. Trades don't have to be player-for-player when there is cap space involved. Even with the cap going up, teams may still need to maneuver in order to position themselves for other moves. As my man Kevin Garnett said, "Anything's possible!"

It would be no surprise for there to be something here that I don't understand, and if you say we can make a trade I assume you have something in mind. But, you have to give something in a trade, right? What "something" do we have? What tradeable asset? I'd be glad to know....

Future firsts. Future seconds.

#LatherRinseRepeat

[pcbothwel]

Assuming no KD/Whiteside/Horford, I'm officially on the 2017 bandwagon. And thats not just because the lack of talent in 2016 or the amount available in 2017...
I really want to see how Brooks does with Wall, Beal, Otto, Satoransky and Oubre. If we see a leap in 16/17, then I think the 2017 FA will be on notice that we're making a move. If they dont, I move Wall and Beal for a nice return (Gortat, Otto, and Morris may go to).

For 2016/17, We need a
backup 5(Noah),
Stretch 4(Anderson, Ilyasova, Teletovic, etc.),
wing depth(Alan Anderson, Rush, etc.),
another ball handler/Guard (Satoransky),
scoring guard(Bayless, Jennings, Augustin)

All of those except of Sato would be one year deals and I think with even a modest improvement from the young guys thats a 5th seed. A big leap and we're a 2nd/3rd seed.

[Dat2U]

backup C: I like Boban Marjanovic & Cole Aldrich. I think it would be nice to have both. I think we could steal Boban from SA with an aggressive offer.

stretch 4: I'm okay with keeping Jared Dudley. He's relatively cheap, productive and effective. A good locker room veteran as well. As long as were not asking him to start at the 4, he's okay.

wing depth: Alan Anderson on the cheap is fine by me. He won't cost much and he won't b*tch if Kelly Oubre Jr steals his minutes. He was ok in limited minutes last year and solid with the Nets the year before. Plus he's another good locker room guy.

I'd also re-sign Garrett Temple as we will inevitably need Beal insurance for 20 or more games. Temple has improved every year IMO and honestly outplayed Beal last year in my humble opinion. He's a cheaper option than giving Courtney Lee $8-10 mil per.

another ball-handler/guard: I'm fine with bringing over Tomas Satoransky for the right price but I view him as more of 2 than a 1. I have a tough time seeing guard other PGs with his size.

backup PG (scoring PG): I'm a big fan of Matthew Delladedova. His defensive tenacity and 3 pt marksmanship are important skills we really could use. I think he could play alongside Wall as well as a spot up shooter. Due to his porous defense and tendency to get tunnel vision while hunting for his own shot, I wouldn't bring back Ramon Sessions under any circumstances.

I'd also look for a bargain basement answer at the 4 to backup Morris/Dudley and fill out the roster. Would love to get a 2nd rounder or maybe scour the NBDL for an option.

[nate33]

backup C: I like Boban Marjanovic & Cole Aldrich. I think it would be nice to have both. I think we could steal Boban from SA with an aggressive offer.

stretch 4: I'm okay with keeping Jared Dudley. He's relatively cheap, productive and effective. A good locker room veteran as well. As long as were not asking him to start at the 4, he's okay.

wing depth: Alan Anderson on the cheap is fine by me. He won't cost much and he won't b*tch if Kelly Oubre Jr steals his minutes. He was ok in limited minutes last year and solid with the Nets the year before. Plus he's another good locker room guy.

I'd also re-sign Garrett Temple as we will inevitably need Beal insurance for 20 or more games. Temple has improved every year IMO and honestly outplayed Beal last year in my humble opinion. He's a cheaper option than giving Courtney Lee $8-10 mil per.

another ball-handler/guard: I'm fine with bringing over Tomas Satoransky for the right price but I view him as more of 2 than a 1. I have a tough time seeing guard other PGs with his size.

backup PG (scoring PG): I'm a big fan of Matthew Delladedova. His defensive tenacity and 3 pt marksmanship are important skills we really could use. I think he could play alongside Wall as well as a spot up shooter. Due to his porous defense and tendency to get tunnel vision while hunting for his own shot, I wouldn't bring back Ramon Sessions under any circumstances.

I'd also look for a bargain basement answer at the 4 to backup Morris/Dudley and fill out the roster. Would love to get a 2nd rounder or maybe scour the NBDL for an option.

I like all of these ideas except the PG. Delladedova is a pretty good and underrated role player, but I think he's the type of player that plays better alongside a ball-dominant wing or a primary option post scorer. He can't break down a defense. I envision a second unit where everybody plays hot potato with the ball because nobody can create an advantage by themselves. For all of his faults, at least Sessions could create a shot and score with reasonable efficiency just by flinging himself into the lane.

Quincy Acy is my target for a bargain basement answer at backup 4.

I love the Cole Aldrich idea.

[Dat2U]

I like all of these ideas except the PG. Delladedova is a pretty good and underrated role player, but I think he's the type of player that plays better alongside a ball-dominant wing or a primary option post scorer. He can't break down a defense. I envision a second unit where everybody plays hot potato with the ball because nobody can create an advantage by themselves. For all of his faults, at least Sessions could create a shot and score with reasonable efficiency just by flinging himself into the lane.

Quincy Acy is my target for a bargain basement answer at backup 4.

I love the Cole Aldrich idea.

Delly played well the year before LeBron arrived. Plus couldn't Satoransky be the straw the stirs the drink on the 2nd unit? Many are suggesting Sato as the backup PG anyways.

I also love the idea of Delly getting some minutes with Wall. I think its ideal to have good depth in the backcourt in Sato, Delly & Temple to take as much wear & tear off Wall/Beal as possible.

[payitforward]

backup C: I like Boban Marjanovic & Cole Aldrich. I think it would be nice to have both. I think we could steal Boban from SA with an aggressive offer.

stretch 4: I'm okay with keeping Jared Dudley. He's relatively cheap, productive and effective. A good locker room veteran as well. As long as were not asking him to start at the 4, he's okay.

wing depth: Alan Anderson on the cheap is fine by me. He won't cost much and he won't b*tch if Kelly Oubre Jr steals his minutes. He was ok in limited minutes last year and solid with the Nets the year before. Plus he's another good locker room guy.

I'd also re-sign Garrett Temple as we will inevitably need Beal insurance for 20 or more games. Temple has improved every year IMO and honestly outplayed Beal last year in my humble opinion. He's a cheaper option than giving Courtney Lee $8-10 mil per.

another ball-handler/guard: I'm fine with bringing over Tomas Satoransky for the right price but I view him as more of 2 than a 1. I have a tough time seeing guard other PGs with his size.

backup PG (scoring PG): I'm a big fan of Matthew Delladedova. His defensive tenacity and 3 pt marksmanship are important skills we really could use. I think he could play alongside Wall as well as a spot up shooter. Due to his porous defense and tendency to get tunnel vision while hunting for his own shot, I wouldn't bring back Ramon Sessions under any circumstances.

I'd also look for a bargain basement answer at the 4 to backup Morris/Dudley and fill out the roster. Would love to get a 2nd rounder or maybe scour the NBDL for an option.

I like all of these ideas except the PG. Delladedova is a pretty good and underrated role player, but I think he's the type of player that plays better alongside a ball-dominant wing or a primary option post scorer. He can't break down a defense. I envision a second unit where everybody plays hot potato with the ball because nobody can create an advantage by themselves. For all of his faults, at least Sessions could create a shot and score with reasonable efficiency just by flinging himself into the lane.

Quincy Acy is my target for a bargain basement answer at backup 4.

I love the Cole Aldrich idea.

Aldrich -- he's definitely on my list too. He has put up excellent numbers pretty much everywhere he's played (5 teams in 6 years!), tho always in very few minutes. Still, it's over 2800 minutes by now; I don't know why he doesn't get more love from GMs and more minutes from coaches. Aldrich has a player option, however, though not for a lot of $$. Can't imagine Ernie being pro-active w/ his agent, alas.

Boban is unrestricted, tho I find it hard to imagine the Spurs letting him get away. I guess that's why you suggest we'd have to be "aggressive."

Dellavadova doesn't appeal to me at all. Anyway, he'll likely stay in Cleveland - or if he leaves it'll be for more $$ than he's worth. My target would be T.J. McConnell, who went undrafted in '15 then played 1600 minutes for Philly and played extremely well. Naturally, he's signed for the next 3 years at an incredible bargain rate. But w/ Colangelo in charge, if they're interested in Beal maybe he could come back as part of a deal.

To me, the best "bargain basement answer" for a 4-5 may still be Hickson. Only 27 and has had some good seasons. I used to like Greg Smith a lot as well, seen that way. But he seems to have declined precipitously in production the last couple of years (tho in few minutes). Only 25, however. I think I was the one who first mentioned Acy to you, Nate, and yes I like him as well.

I'm sure we'll try to get Satoransky over here. Ditto bring back Temple, Anderson & Dudley (tho journeyman prices will rise w/ the cap, so...)

Thing is, none of this stuff will be likely to make us a good team. The only thing that can help would be players that can surprise us -- that means young guys. So McConnell might be one of those, and that's why he's a target for me. Alan Williams would have been another one, except Phoenix locked him up the minute they dumped Markieff 'Detained' Morris on us. Christian Wood should be brought into camp too.

[Ruzious]

backup C: I like Boban Marjanovic & Cole Aldrich. I think it would be nice to have both. I think we could steal Boban from SA with an aggressive offer.

stretch 4: I'm okay with keeping Jared Dudley. He's relatively cheap, productive and effective. A good locker room veteran as well. As long as were not asking him to start at the 4, he's okay.

wing depth: Alan Anderson on the cheap is fine by me. He won't cost much and he won't b*tch if Kelly Oubre Jr steals his minutes. He was ok in limited minutes last year and solid with the Nets the year before. Plus he's another good locker room guy.

I'd also re-sign Garrett Temple as we will inevitably need Beal insurance for 20 or more games. Temple has improved every year IMO and honestly outplayed Beal last year in my humble opinion. He's a cheaper option than giving Courtney Lee $8-10 mil per.

another ball-handler/guard: I'm fine with bringing over Tomas Satoransky for the right price but I view him as more of 2 than a 1. I have a tough time seeing guard other PGs with his size.

backup PG (scoring PG): I'm a big fan of Matthew Delladedova. His defensive tenacity and 3 pt marksmanship are important skills we really could use. I think he could play alongside Wall as well as a spot up shooter. Due to his porous defense and tendency to get tunnel vision while hunting for his own shot, I wouldn't bring back Ramon Sessions under any circumstances.

I'd also look for a bargain basement answer at the 4 to backup Morris/Dudley and fill out the roster. Would love to get a 2nd rounder or maybe scour the NBDL for an option.

I like all of these ideas except the PG. Delladedova is a pretty good and underrated role player, but I think he's the type of player that plays better alongside a ball-dominant wing or a primary option post scorer. He can't break down a defense. I envision a second unit where everybody plays hot potato with the ball because nobody can create an advantage by themselves. For all of his faults, at least Sessions could create a shot and score with reasonable efficiency just by flinging himself into the lane.

Quincy Acy is my target for a bargain basement answer at backup 4.

I love the Cole Aldrich idea.

Aldrich -- he's definitely on my list too. He has put up excellent numbers pretty much everywhere he's played (5 teams in 6 years!), tho always in very few minutes. Still, it's over 2800 minutes by now; I don't know why he doesn't get more love from GMs and more minutes from coaches. Aldrich has a player option, however, though not for a lot of $$. Can't imagine Ernie being pro-active w/ his agent, alas.

Boban is unrestricted, tho I find it hard to imagine the Spurs letting him get away. I guess that's why you suggest we'd have to be "aggressive."

Dellavadova doesn't appeal to me at all. Anyway, he'll likely stay in Cleveland - or if he leaves it'll be for more $$ than he's worth. My target would be T.J. McConnell, who went undrafted in '15 then played 1600 minutes for Philly and played extremely well. Naturally, he's signed for the next 3 years at an incredible bargain rate. But w/ Colangelo in charge, if they're interested in Beal maybe he could come back as part of a deal.

To me, the best "bargain basement answer" for a 4-5 may still be Hickson. Only 27 and has had some good seasons. I used to like Greg Smith a lot as well, seen that way. But he seems to have declined precipitously in production the last couple of years (tho in few minutes). Only 25, however. I think I was the one who first mentioned Acy to you, Nate, and yes I like him as well.

I'm sure we'll try to get Satoransky over here. Ditto bring back Temple, Anderson & Dudley (tho journeyman prices will rise w/ the cap, so...)

Thing is, none of this stuff will be likely to make us a good team. The only thing that can help would be players that can surprise us -- that means young guys. So McConnell might be one of those, and that's why he's a target for me. Alan Williams would have been another one, except Phoenix locked him up the minute they dumped Markieff 'Detained' Morris on us. Christian Wood should be brought into camp too.

That is the Thing. If we're not going to get any of the 3 top free agents (which is looking more likely to be the case), we should be looking long-term more than short-term and get players who might have a future here. Otherwise, I'd be looking to get Nando de Colo along with Satoransky. I concur with looking at Christian Wood. He's a player who might not help much next season but could develop into a nice player. Let someone else have the pleasure of getting Dudley.

[jivelikenice]

I wrote this mock offseason....check it out if you get a chance.
http://wizofawes.com/2016/05/26/washington-wizards-free-agency-2016-mock-predictions-2/

[doclinkin]

Euroball standout Quincy Miller. Worth a look.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAWklZAthwI[/youtube]

Like de Colo as well. Patric Young. Latavious Williams. Jeff Brooks. There are some solid players in Europe if you're looking for bodies for the bench.

[Ruzious]

I wrote this mock offseason....check it out if you get a chance.
http://wizofawes.com/2016/05/26/washington-wizards-free-agency-2016-mock-predictions-2/

Nice presentation - good job. I like your version 1.0 - but without Dwight Powell.