OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[Cr0w]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

[CJackson]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

[Cr0w]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

[Riot Randolph]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

THis is a RAMBLING MESS...
you mention halting immigration....if an illegal immigrant poses a challenge to your job security than you have other issues. Free Trade? I wouldnt trust a person whose company engages in overseas sweatshops...than you go on to mention protecting middleclass and allude to Trump doing so...despite the fact he wants to deregulate Wallstreet....

[BallSacBounce]

OK, I will play along

I would like to understand how trump will make American great again

What exactly is the greatness America has lost?

How does that get regained?

and which of Trump's policies resonate with you?

Prolly hard to tell since they change all the time.

for somebody acting so cocky i lobbed them a softball. all they have to do is step up to the plate and knock it out of the park

i would like to see if ericanderson is just a blowhard or if they can answer the utterly simple questions I posed to them

Probably because no one wants to waste time arguing with a blowhard.

[CJackson]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

so you meandered thru all that from the talking point of correcting income distribution imbalances of the top 5%? not only did that not make a lick of sense but it has nothing to do with a specific policy attributable to donald trump. all you did is latch on to his childish shock statements about building walls and deporting 10 million people (which are both idiotic nazi ideas) and project on to him your own feelings and rambling equally incoherent ideas. that is not policy

[CJackson]

Prolly hard to tell since they change all the time.

for somebody acting so cocky i lobbed them a softball. all they have to do is step up to the plate and knock it out of the park

i would like to see if ericanderson is just a blowhard or if they can answer the utterly simple questions I posed to them

Probably because no one wants to waste time arguing with a blowhard.

not witty. got anything upstairs? then show it

[CJackson]

just a little FYI

the explosion in upper percentile wealth in the past decade happened because the fed printed low to no interest money and the wealthy basically got free loans which they leveraged by blowing up asset classes. they did it with real estate (happening again in big cities again after all the surplus from the last RE bubble got absorbed). what do some of you think the silicon valley unicorn bubble is all about? it is the migration of investment capital looking to inflate an asset class. now that party is over

the economics of the 1-5% has nothing to do with mud people and immigrants taking your jobs. they will fuq you over whatever your color is. geezus christ!

[Cr0w]

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

so you meandered thru all that from the talking point of correcting income distribution imbalances of the top 5%? not only did that not make a lick of sense but it has nothing to do with a specific policy attributable to donald trump. all you did is latch on to his childish shock statements about building walls and deporting 10 million people (which are both idiotic nazi ideas) and project on to him your own feelings and rambling equally incoherent ideas. that is not policy

Wrong. I talked about Donald's 2 main stances and how it relates to fixing our economy. You've offered nothing but insults. Talk about childish.

What's your candidates plan?

[Cr0w]

just a little FYI

the explosion in upper percentile wealth in the past decade happened because the fed printed low to no interest money and the wealthy basically got free loans which they leveraged by blowing up asset classes. they did it with real estate (happening again in big cities again after all the surplus from the last RE bubble got absorbed). what do some of you think the silicon valley unicorn bubble is all about? it is the migration of investment capital looking to inflate an asset class. now that party is over

the economics of the 1-5% has nothing to do with mud people and immigrants taking your jobs. they will fuq you over whatever your color is. geezus christ!

There's no one reason but a lot of it is tied to deregulation of the market. Obama economics has sold our lower and middle class out for a few years of heightened corporate profits via illegal immigration labor, free trade and bail outs up the ass.

[CJackson]

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

so you meandered thru all that from the talking point of correcting income distribution imbalances of the top 5%? not only did that not make a lick of sense but it has nothing to do with a specific policy attributable to donald trump. all you did is latch on to his childish shock statements about building walls and deporting 10 million people (which are both idiotic nazi ideas) and project on to him your own feelings and rambling equally incoherent ideas. that is not policy

Wrong. I talked about Donald's 2 main stances and how it relates to fixing our economy. You've offered nothing but insults. Talk about childish.

What's your candidates plan?

his two main stances of deportation and building a new berlin wall? that is why you are voting for the donald?

good to know what kind of person you are that you want to create a new class of police to round up all the mud people and send them back to bonga bonga and chapati ville

[CJackson]

just a little FYI

the explosion in upper percentile wealth in the past decade happened because the fed printed low to no interest money and the wealthy basically got free loans which they leveraged by blowing up asset classes. they did it with real estate (happening again in big cities again after all the surplus from the last RE bubble got absorbed). what do some of you think the silicon valley unicorn bubble is all about? it is the migration of investment capital looking to inflate an asset class. now that party is over

the economics of the 1-5% has nothing to do with mud people and immigrants taking your jobs. they will fuq you over whatever your color is. geezus christ!

There's no one reason but a lot of it is tied to deregulation of the market. Obama economics has sold our lower and middle class out for a few years of heightened corporate profits via illegal immigration labor, free trade and bail outs up the ass.

the donald wants to shut down global trade by imposing giant tariffs on the chinese. he is an economic moron when it comes to macro issues

only a cut and dry obama hater says things like he sold us out to illegal immigrant labor. you know the policies he created that made that so? or is it because he didnt create an iron wall along mexico which makes him the culprit?

so is it those damn mexicans who made the wounded little white boys unemployed or is it free trade? make up your mind! oh wait, its soooooooooo complex so you dont really know what it is you just want to include your hatred of mud people with your incoherent grasp of economics just so you dont forget to tick off your list of pet peeves

[Cr0w]

Dont be such a cocktease. Trump plans to do what about that?

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

THis is a RAMBLING MESS...
you mention halting immigration....if an illegal immigrant poses a challenge to your job security than you have other issues. Free Trade? I wouldnt trust a person whose company engages in overseas sweatshops...than you go on to mention protecting middleclass and allude to Trump doing so...despite the fact he wants to deregulate Wallstreet....

Illegal immigration has a ripple effect that effects EVERYONE. I'll give you one specific example.

Without illegal immigration there's more landscaping jobs. Our legal lower class can band together and create landscaping teams and make careers out of that. No longer are illegals flooding that market and undercutting are people which makes it so employers can say 'we'll pay you 3$ an hour and if you don't want to do it, that mexican on the other corner will'. This will make it so lower class people can work their way into the middle class without forcing businesses to pay employees that aren't inherently worth it with min wage spikes. Min wage spikes have tons of negative consequences on an economy.

Then there's a ripple effect from this. If our lower class isn't flooded and they have meaningful jobs, colleges aren't over flooded and that becomes a better tool for people looking for an economic ladder up as well.

But with things like fixing illegal immigration and trade agreements, this is what we are working for. An America that runs like a well oiled machine where the bulk of Americans(lower and middle class) matter.

[Cr0w]

just a little FYI

the explosion in upper percentile wealth in the past decade happened because the fed printed low to no interest money and the wealthy basically got free loans which they leveraged by blowing up asset classes. they did it with real estate (happening again in big cities again after all the surplus from the last RE bubble got absorbed). what do some of you think the silicon valley unicorn bubble is all about? it is the migration of investment capital looking to inflate an asset class. now that party is over

the economics of the 1-5% has nothing to do with mud people and immigrants taking your jobs. they will fuq you over whatever your color is. geezus christ!

There's no one reason but a lot of it is tied to deregulation of the market. Obama economics has sold our lower and middle class out for a few years of heightened corporate profits via illegal immigration labor, free trade and bail outs up the ass.

the donald wants to shut down global trade by imposing giant tariffs on the chinese. he is an economic moron when it comes to macro issues

only a cut and dry obama hater says things like he sold us out to illegal immigrant labor. you know the policies he created that made that so? or is it because he didnt create an iron wall along mexico which makes him the culprit?

so is it those damn mexicans who made the wounded little white boys unemployed or is it free trade? make up your mind! oh wait, its soooooooooo complex so you dont really know what it is you just want to include your hatred of mud people with your incoherent grasp of economics just so you dont forget to tick off your list of pet peeves

Donalds doesn't want to close down global trade, he wants to rework trade deals because we are getting ripped off and we are selling our lower/middle class short by having them. Do you hate the average American public?

TFW you realize you are the one thats the economic moron, not the guy you've been trashing.

Nothing about the Donald is about hating on minorities or anything like that, it's all about how to make America the strongest it can be for the American people.

[Fury]

There's no one reason but a lot of it is tied to deregulation of the market. Obama economics has sold our lower and middle class out for a few years of heightened corporate profits via illegal immigration labor, free trade and bail outs up the ass.

the donald wants to shut down global trade by imposing giant tariffs on the chinese. he is an economic moron when it comes to macro issues

only a cut and dry obama hater says things like he sold us out to illegal immigrant labor. you know the policies he created that made that so? or is it because he didnt create an iron wall along mexico which makes him the culprit?

so is it those damn mexicans who made the wounded little white boys unemployed or is it free trade? make up your mind! oh wait, its soooooooooo complex so you dont really know what it is you just want to include your hatred of mud people with your incoherent grasp of economics just so you dont forget to tick off your list of pet peeves

Donalds doesn't want to close down global trade, he wants to rework trade deals because we are getting ripped off and we are selling our lower/middle class short by having them. Do you hate the average American public?

TFW you realize you are the one thats the economic moron, not the guy you've been trashing.

Nothing about the Donald is about hating on minorities or anything like that, it's all about how to make America the strongest it can be for the American people.

How is he going to rework them? What's his plan for the new trade deals?

[CJackson]

Protect the lower and middle class job market through illegal immigration reform and trade deal restructuring.

Our lower class job market faces 2 major problems-

Illegal immigration creates a glut of unskilled workers that drive each other's wages down and that is compounded with the fact that they will work under our legal minimum wage.

Then add in 'free trade' where we basically have our workers competing chinese sweat shops.

Forget the morality issue of all this, America can't put itself in a position where the lower/middle class are making no gains and the 1% are booming. That's like owning a business and giving ALL your leverage to your best worker who is not loyal to you and will leave you with nothing when the going gets tough. America needs a combination of being business friendly and protecting it's workers/domestic businesses at the same time.

Whats your candidates plan for the economy?

THis is a RAMBLING MESS...
you mention halting immigration....if an illegal immigrant poses a challenge to your job security than you have other issues. Free Trade? I wouldnt trust a person whose company engages in overseas sweatshops...than you go on to mention protecting middleclass and allude to Trump doing so...despite the fact he wants to deregulate Wallstreet....

Illegal immigration has a ripple effect that effects EVERYONE. I'll give you one specific example.

Without illegal immigration there's more landscaping jobs. Our legal lower class can band together and create landscaping teams and make careers out of that. No longer are illegals flooding that market and undercutting are people which makes it so employers can say 'we'll pay you 3$ an hour and if you don't want to do it, that mexican on the other corner will'. This will make it so lower class people can work their way into the middle class without forcing businesses to pay employees that aren't inherently worth it with min wage spikes. Min wage spikes have tons of negative consequences on an economy.

Then there's a ripple effect from this. If our lower class isn't flooded and they have meaningful jobs, colleges aren't over flooded and that becomes a better tool for people looking for an economic ladder up as well.

But with things like fixing illegal immigration and trade agreements, this is what we are working for. An America that runs like a well oiled machine where the bulk of Americans(lower and middle class) matter.

drive around the southeast us and if 1 out of 10 landscaping crews are run by mexicans that is a stretch. in georgia, the carolinas, florida i have seen them all and those crews with their pick up trucks hauling trailers with their landscaping gear and mowers are almost exclusively owned and operated by WHITE MEN and the next level is BLACK MEN but almost none are owned and operated by mexicans. so if those white or black men choose to pick up a mexican at the wal-mart instead of paying one of their local buddies thats on them not fuqqing obama

[HarthorneWingo]

Start with this one. Inflation adjusted wages for the top 5% have skyrocketed over the last 30 years while middle and lower class stagnated. Marginal increases over the last 50.

Trump has plans to do something about that. What does your preferred candidate?

He does?

[CJackson]

it is amazing how the wounded little white boys think the donald will protect them from predatory capitalists when trumps whole career is based on being a predatory capitalist. it is absurd

[Cr0w]

it is amazing how the wounded little white boys think the donald will protect them from predatory capitalists when trumps whole career is based on being a predatory capitalist. it is absurd

I take advantage of predatory capitalist practices myself and still want them ended. You're a fool if you don't and you're treasonous if you don't want them fixed.

[CJackson]

it is amazing how the wounded little white boys think the donald will protect them from predatory capitalists when trumps whole career is based on being a predatory capitalist. it is absurd

I take advantage of predatory capitalist practices myself and still want them ended. You're a fool if you don't and you're treasonous if you don't want them fixed.

and he thinks the donald is his savior