The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#321 » by cpower » Fri May 27, 2016 3:44 am

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cpower wrote:this OKC team is scary, i mean every time their top 2 guys shooting like 35%, they are still in it. (g1 g4) On the other hand, we need Curry to shoot a lot better to have a chance to win.

I can't believe it. Maybe they are the better team afterall.


Tonight was more about their role players not playing well offensively. Durant and RW take on heavy USG% to optimize shots other guys make. Those guys played better than average in earlier games in this series. Today they came back down to earth.

I thought Durant played very well, and I liked RW's aggression. RW just couldn't get it going.

i thought today they were fine. still crashing the boards and make open threes. If durant/RW didn't went for 23/59 (38%) they won us pretty easily.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#322 » by ronnymac2 » Fri May 27, 2016 3:45 am

bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


He didn't have a Steph Curry game. Looked lethargic and winded. Missed shots he normally makes.

I'm not saying this to excuse Curry, because I'm of the opinion that if he's out there, no excuses. But observing him, he lacked spring and vitality.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#323 » by bondom34 » Fri May 27, 2016 3:48 am

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bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.

I love how this site is just oozing with hate over this comment. When the truth of the matter is that Curry, Kerr, and anybody else who was asked the question said that he was "Fine.". Never once wavering from that stance.

The fact of the matter is that he is clearly slower than normal, but it doesn't matter. Plenty of players are banged up in the post-season, and he's dealing with it and turned in a very good performance tonight. Played the majority of D on Westbrook to boot who shot a terrible 11-28 with 7 TO's. Couple crucial steals on KD to boot. Good game from Steph regardless of where he may or may not be health wise.

I don't mind the comment, I mind the "he played poorly so he has an excuse" but he's played well so nevermind that goes on with fans.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#324 » by kayess » Fri May 27, 2016 3:48 am

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bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


He didn't have a Steph Curry game. Looked lethargic and winded. Missed shots he normally makes.

I'm not saying this to excuse Curry, because I'm of the opinion that if he's out there, no excuses. But observing him, he lacked spring and vitality.


I've noticed all series that he's just been missing wide open looks - and SportVU (will have to delve into that later) is recording him as playing faster. That's not necessarily an indication of health, of course - but it does suggest he's not injured nearly to the extent that we think he is.

ATGs CAN get tired late in the playoffs, so if it's just that it's not surprising at all.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#325 » by Warriors Analyst » Fri May 27, 2016 3:48 am

bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


I know you're being sarcastic here, but is it not obvious that Steph is still not completely himself?

He hasn't been hunting for his shots off the dribble, most of his made threes have come off of assists or when he has man face-guarding him and he shoots before taking a dribble. The NBA 2k crossover/behind the back threes haven't been there and he's having trouble moving Adams and Ibaka side to side to even get his shots off.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#326 » by Clyde Frazier » Fri May 27, 2016 3:49 am

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bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


He didn't have a Steph Curry game. Looked lethargic and winded. Missed shots he normally makes.

I'm not saying this to excuse Curry, because I'm of the opinion that if he's out there, no excuses. But observing him, he lacked spring and vitality.


He definitely couldn't get his footing on many of the pull up 3s he normally takes, so he is a step slow right now. That said, he didn't force them up, and ended up turning many of those plays into great drives. I'll admit he'll probably have to be even better to come away with a win in game 6, but he had a solid game.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#327 » by Nbafanatic » Fri May 27, 2016 3:50 am

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bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


He didn't have a Steph Curry game. Looked lethargic and winded. Missed shots he normally makes.

I'm not saying this to excuse Curry, because I'm of the opinion that if he's out there, no excuses. But observing him, he lacked spring and vitality.


Yeah, but he did a very good game today. Not his MVP self kind of game, but a very decent one. Still had some turnover problems but was very active defensively, getting steals and even playing some good defense on Durant when he was mismatched against him.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#328 » by bondom34 » Fri May 27, 2016 3:50 am

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bondom34 wrote:Yep, 70 percent.


I know you're being sarcastic here, but is it not obvious that Steph is still not completely himself?

He hasn't been hunting for his shots off the dribble, most of his made threes have come off of assists or when he has man face-guarding him and he shoots before taking a dribble. The NBA 2k crossover/behind the back threes haven't been there and he's having trouble moving Adams and Ibaka side to side to even get his shots off.

He had an easy 29 and pounded his chest the second half.

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tredigs wrote:I love how this site is just oozing with hate over this comment. When the truth of the matter is that Curry, Kerr, and anybody else who was asked the question said that he was "Fine.". Never once wavering from that stance.

The fact of the matter is that he is clearly slower than normal, but it doesn't matter. Plenty of players are banged up in the post-season, and he's dealing with it and turned in a very good performance tonight. Played the majority of D on Westbrook to boot who shot a terrible 11-28 with 7 TO's. Couple crucial steals on KD to boot. Good game from Steph regardless of where he may or may not be health wise.

I don't mind the comment, I mind the "he played poorly so he has an excuse" but he's played well so nevermind that goes on with fans.

This site is FLOODED with vitriol for Curry and the Warriors. I was following the game thread and it was cracking me up how much hate there is for him/them. I have no **** clue what you are talking about.



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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#329 » by JulesWinnfield » Fri May 27, 2016 3:54 am

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JulesWinnfield wrote:They never win at OKC. They had the buzzer beater there in the regular season and that is literally the only time they have won there in Steph's entire career when Westbrook or KD are in the lineup. 1-11 overall. It's a house of horrors for them. I'd be stunned and impressed if they kept this series alive past Saturday

They didnt win in San Antonio for 33 games and won and ended San Antonios undefeated home record this season.

First 2 games @ Okc were blowouts. Not gonna happen again i expect warriors to win


They did win at SA in the 13 playoffs though... But I get your point, and you are obviously right. Past results don't guarantee anything. That's a tough spot though, have to save the season in a place where they have been smacked around for their entire careers. Can't wait for Saturday
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#330 » by RSCD3_ » Fri May 27, 2016 4:09 am

5 Steals as well, much better defensively tonight.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#331 » by therealbig3 » Fri May 27, 2016 5:52 am

Kerr picked his spot with the small ball lineup. He saved it for the end of the game, and it did well.

I thought Curry played a very good game...best player on the court tonight. He played a really good floor game, scored well, and got teammates a lot of open shots and FTs...his shot was still off, and he had some TO issues, but still a really good offensive game despite that...and his defense was excellent.

2 bad games, 2 good games, and 1 meh game for Curry. The definition of up and down lol.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#333 » by therealbig3 » Fri May 27, 2016 7:50 am

Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#334 » by JVL » Fri May 27, 2016 10:39 am

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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#335 » by cpower » Fri May 27, 2016 3:20 pm

Still way too passive, even Klay had more FGA in this series. Are you kidding me? And after all the struggles, he still average 25 ppg on 59%TS. We have some of the worst offensive execution in the game.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#336 » by Atmanne » Fri May 27, 2016 3:52 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.


bballbreakdown has a video with Westbrook's possessions vs. Curry

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/735944989977366532[/tweet]

Curry's held up well. Of course, the flip side is that the extra attention from Green/Bogut has led to a fair amount of open shots.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#337 » by airyak13 » Fri May 27, 2016 3:57 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.


Westbrook's problem is that he sees red the few times Curry is guarding him and in turn forces up bad shots. Credit to Curry's defense on him the past few games though. I'd like to see how effective he can be on Westbrook when not just guarding him in spurts (after resting on Roberson and Waiters for most of the game).
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#338 » by bigboi » Fri May 27, 2016 4:44 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.


Using stats incorrectly. Doesn't account for help defense. Also last game, Thompson was guarding Westbrook most of the game which is a contrast from the previous games. So clearly Curry wasn't doing that well if assignments were switched
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#339 » by Doctor MJ » Fri May 27, 2016 5:25 pm

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therealbig3 wrote:Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.


Using stats incorrectly. Doesn't account for help defense. Also last game, Thompson was guarding Westbrook most of the game which is a contrast from the previous games. So clearly Curry wasn't doing that well if assignments were switched


That's not necessarily so. In fact before the last game many were saying Curry needed to be taken of Westbrook in spite of him doing a great job simply because it made no sense to force Curry to expend so much energy on defense when his team needs him to get in the zone on offense.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2) 

Post#340 » by bigboi » Fri May 27, 2016 5:44 pm

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bigboi wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Watched Westbrook's highlights from this game, and outside of a PnR in which it was more Green's fault, none of Westbrook's highlights came against Curry.

And there's this:

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And yet people will continue to claim that Curry can't guard Westbrook. I understand that Klay and Livingston and Iggy guard him a lot, more than Curry, but you can't deny the struggles that Westbrook has when it's Curry that's guarding him.


Using stats incorrectly. Doesn't account for help defense. Also last game, Thompson was guarding Westbrook most of the game which is a contrast from the previous games. So clearly Curry wasn't doing that well if assignments were switched


That's not necessarily so. In fact before the last game many were saying Curry needed to be taken of Westbrook in spite of him doing a great job simply because it made no sense to force Curry to expend so much energy on defense when his team needs him to get in the zone on offense.


The video doesn't show Curry defending well for the most part. Most of the plays, he gets absolutely blown by and then Westbrook misses a gimme play or the help defense contests the shot. Also some of the plays, Curry wasn't even close to Westbrook so I don't know how Curry was counted as "defending" him on those plays
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