The Lebron Thread (2015-16 Pt. 3)

Post #601 » by **PaulieWal** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:02 am

toodles23 wrote: Amazing how Durant choking has probably cost Lebron a chance at a ring.

Huh? I don't understand this. LeBron is in the Finals. It's on him to beat either GSW or OKC. KD isn't "costing" LeBron anything. That's a very weird way to look at it.

RSCD3_ · Post #602 » by **RSCD3_** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:03 am

I think people are overreacting to the matchup advantage Golden State has. Do people think it wil be easy to stop a +15.0 offense? I think if this is the matchup lue might have some trocks up his sleeve. They shouldnt do much worse than they did last year with a much stronger team

Post #603 » by **PaulieWal** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:04 am

RSCD3_ wrote:I think people are overreacting to the matchup advantage Golden State has. Do people think it wil be easy to stop a +15.0 offense? I think if this is the matchup lue might have some trocks up his sleeve. They shouldnt do much worse than they did last year with a much stronger team

This last game got me thinking that OKC was playing near perfect D with their switches on Klay/Curry for the most part and they just kept on hitting BS 3 after BS 3 to stay in it. How the heck are the Cavs going to guard this Warriors team? I would love for the Finals to be more competitive but I just don't see the Cavs' defense standing a chance against GSW.

Dupp · Post #604 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:13 am

durant just cost cleveland a title

Post #605 » by **bondom34** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:14 am

Good luck vs GSW.

Post #606 » by **PaulieWal** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:15 am

Dupp wrote:durant just cost cleveland a title

As far as I know everyone on Cleveland is healthy. Beat the Warriors, win the title.

This blaming of OKC/KD for LeBron not winning a title this year is laughable (for all we know Cavs could beat GSW or OKC could still beat GSW in game 7).

RSCD3_ · Post #607 » by **RSCD3_** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:16 am

PaulieWal wrote:
RSCD3_ wrote:I think people are overreacting to the matchup advantage Golden State has. Do people think it wil be easy to stop a +15.0 offense? I think if this is the matchup lue might have some trocks up his sleeve. They shouldnt do much worse than they did last year with a much stronger team

This last game got me thinking that OKC was playing near perfect D with their switches on Klay/Curry for the most part and they just kept on hitting BS 3 after BS 3 to stay in it. How the heck are the Cavs going to guard this Warriors team? I would love for the Finals to be more competitive but I just don't see the Cavs' defense standing a chance against GSW.

I wouldnt expect klay to sink 11 3 pointers every game. :wink:

How the heck are the warriors gonna stop the cavs especially with frye at the 5? There's two sides to every coin and okc has actually been kind of shabby on their initial attack, cavs dont rebound as much but have been really efficient lately. This will probably be a higher scoring series and while the cavs wont be favorites there'll still good enough to get the games close and from then on who knows what will happen. Draymond is two techs or a flagrant short of a suspension. People are almost giving the cavs the same chance vs the warriors than the raptors vs the cavs man, the disrespect is real here.

Love and Irving will be a negative in defense but if they can score well enough to offset it then how much of a problem is it. Id give the warriors if they win a 60% chance but the cavaliers are being underrated if you think that lebron with a better team will have a tougher time than he did last year. Love is looking comfortable, lebrons getting into a hell of a rhythm as an off ball player, irving is looking for dudes off the drive a little more. The cavaliers are gelling at the right time. I think this is underrated.

Besides the thunder could still win in 7 and make this hypothetical pointless.

Dupp · Post #608 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:17 am

PaulieWal wrote:
Dupp wrote:durant just cost cleveland a title

As far as I know everyone on Cleveland is healthy. Beat the Warriors, win the title.

This blaming of OKC/KD for LeBron not winning a title this year is laughable (for all we know Cavs could beat GSW or OKC could still beat GSW in game 7).

You know why people are saying it. We had a much better chance at beating okc than the warriors. Its the matchup weve wanted all along.

yoyoboy · Post #609 » by **yoyoboy** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:17 am

Welp. LeBron was probably upset watching this game lol. My heart thinks the Cavs can make it competitive against the Warriors, but after everything I've seen this season, my rational mind is telling me that it'll be a success if we don't get swept. If you could craft the absolute worst matchup for the Cavs possible, it's basically be the Warriors...

IG2 · Post #610 » by **IG2** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:18 am

I saw Raptors get, attempt and brick countless open 3's in the ECF. The W's probably shoot a higher percentage on 27 foot, contested 3pters than Raptors do on open ones. There's no way to guard that team. And Cleveland's been a below average defensive team since Lue took over. And this isn't even getting into how poorly they match-up with the W's. I just don't see how they win more than 1 game at best.

Dupp · Post #611 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:18 am

No way cavs guard green like thunder did he will dominate us. Unless lebron guards him but i doubt it

Post #612 » by **PaulieWal** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:19 am

Dupp wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:
Dupp wrote:durant just cost cleveland a title

As far as I know everyone on Cleveland is healthy. Beat the Warriors, win the title.

This blaming of OKC/KD for LeBron not winning a title this year is laughable (for all we know Cavs could beat GSW or OKC could still beat GSW in game 7).

You know why people are saying it. We had a much better chance at beating okc than the warriors. Its the matchup weve wanted all along.

I get it sort of but dude, you guys are in the Finals. No one is costing you anything.

I already said I wanna see a Cavs/OKC Finals, don't get me wrong but you gotta be able to beat whoever comes out of the West.

RSCD3_ · Post #613 » by **RSCD3_** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:20 am

Also for all the talk about the curry green pick and roll killing the cavs draymond has had a tendency of calling for the ball in the post and that's not been to efficient, golden state's screens are looking softer, theyve been sloppier with the ball. Etc. I would say cleveland is gelling better than GS and I just think people are overreacting to the RS games

Post #614 » by **PaulieWal** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:22 am

RSCD3_ wrote:Also for all the talk about the curry green pick and roll killing the cavs draymond has had a tendency of calling for the ball in the post and that's not been to efficient, golden state's screens are looking softer, theyve been sloppier with the ball. Etc. I would say cleveland is gelling better than GS and I just think people are overreacting to the RS games

Cavs are playing horrible defense in the PS. Lowe said Irving/Love in a PnR are a disaster giving up something like 1.25 PPP. If GSW escapes OKC I think they will have their groove back. This is a 7 games series with Thunder playing the defense of their lives. How are the Cavs gonna stop all these shooters? Love and Frye will be unplayable against the Warriors unless you want a layup line for the Warriors....

kayess · Post #615 » by **kayess** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:25 am

LOL, a repeat of that game they lost earlier in the RS

I can't believe Durant of all people cost the Cavs a shot at the championship.

Honestly I'd say GSW in 4, MAYBEEEE 5 if LeBron has a game 6-type performance.

RSCD3_ · Post #616 » by **RSCD3_** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:25 am

Bold prediction: Oklahoma City is gonna make this void by cooling their minds and winning on monday

Dupp · Post #617 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:27 am

PaulieWal wrote:
Dupp wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:

As far as I know everyone on Cleveland is healthy. Beat the Warriors, win the title.

This blaming of OKC/KD for LeBron not winning a title this year is laughable (for all we know Cavs could beat GSW or OKC could still beat GSW in game 7).

You know why people are saying it. We had a much better chance at beating okc than the warriors. Its the matchup weve wanted all along.

I get it sort of but dude, you guys are in the Finals. No one is costing you anything.

I already said I wanna see a Cavs/OKC Finals, don't get me wrong but you gotta be able to beat whoever comes out of the West.

Yeah i know but thunder really could have wrapped the series up tonight. Personally i would have given us 60% chance vs thunder and 30% against the warriros. We can still win but its a lot harder. Matchups matter a lot and they are terrible matchup for us.

rich316 · Post #618 » by **rich316** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:27 am

RSCD3_ wrote:Bold prediction: Oklahoma City is gonna make this void by cooling their minds and winning on monday

Way to stake out that corner. I do not think it will be a blowout like many are predicting. The Dubs were only in this because of outrageous, bonkers, BS shooting from Klay. If OKC can keep their heads and just play their game, they have a decent chance.

Dupp · Post #619 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:27 am

RSCD3_ wrote:Bold prediction: Oklahoma City is gonna make this void by cooling their minds and winning on monday

Cavs have a better chance of sweeping the warrirors. Thunder will lose by 20.

Dupp · Post #620 » by **Dupp** » Sun May 29, 2016 4:30 am

PaulieWal wrote:
RSCD3_ wrote:Also for all the talk about the curry green pick and roll killing the cavs draymond has had a tendency of calling for the ball in the post and that's not been to efficient, golden state's screens are looking softer, theyve been sloppier with the ball. Etc. I would say cleveland is gelling better than GS and I just think people are overreacting to the RS games

Cavs are playing horrible defense in the PS. Lowe said Irving/Love in a PnR are a disaster giving up something like 1.25 PPP. If GSW escapes OKC I think they will have their groove back. This is a 7 games series with Thunder playing the defense of their lives. How are the Cavs gonna stop all these shooters? Love and Frye will be unplayable against the Warriors unless you want a layup line for the Warriors....

See you get why this just got a lot harder for us.

Yeah defence is a disaster i dunno how we step that up. Thunder have so many more weapons to throw at the warriors. Oh well may the better team win.