The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

[Qwigglez]

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

No. Too many posters attack any inside information. Plus, McD has been very tight lipped, not many leaks anymore sadly. Honestly would be nice to get one right about now.

*edit* this is my 9000th post on RealGM.

[Ericb5]

The NBA has shifted to a jump shooting slash perimeter shooting game... which means defenders are also honed to stop scoring from that area.


The one area which has been overlooked is the inside...


Tim Duncan as recent as the 2013 and 2014 playoffs, have proven when shots stop falling, the Spurs had an inside guy who could score 20 and in crunch time too.

Very valuable. It also allows the team to have 2 options to score from.


I recall the golden era center days, where Hakeem would always get the ball, apply pressure inside, he either scored or kicked out to a Mario Ellie or Maxwell for an open 3pter... Robinson too...

Heck Barkley days, Majerle, Ainge at the perimeter worked... IN then OUT...

Sixers fan here.

Okafor is only available because he is behind a better player in Embiid at the 5, and isn't a good ft with Embiid, OR Simmons that is coming in, and is also a better player.

It isn't because he isn't wanted. He is just in a crowded front court, and could bring a lot back in trade to balance out our roster. Our wing, and guard talent is the worst in the league.

I would take 4 and Knight for him, and I think that the Sixers probably would too. Knight is a talented but flawed combo guard, that would instantly make us much better, and Dunn could be our starting point guard, and would really improve us too.

I can't stress enough to you the lack of talent that we have outside of our bigs, and we are about to add Simmons to the mix.


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[JMac1]

The NBA has shifted to a jump shooting slash perimeter shooting game... which means defenders are also honed to stop scoring from that area.


The one area which has been overlooked is the inside...


Tim Duncan as recent as the 2013 and 2014 playoffs, have proven when shots stop falling, the Spurs had an inside guy who could score 20 and in crunch time too.

Very valuable. It also allows the team to have 2 options to score from.


I recall the golden era center days, where Hakeem would always get the ball, apply pressure inside, he either scored or kicked out to a Mario Ellie or Maxwell for an open 3pter... Robinson too...

Heck Barkley days, Majerle, Ainge at the perimeter worked... IN then OUT...

GS not the NBA. No NBA team in history has had the two best shooters probably ever on the same team! I don't think this will ever be duplicated no matter how many shooters teams draft. That could be fool's gold for the entire league. A inside scorer or rim attacker/FT shooter will always have their value.

It might happen with Booker and Hield... Hield is THAT good of a shooter. Confident but not cocky too...

I could see the Suns thinking that just because of GS game 6 against OKC, but I would rather go with a Wade/Old Shaq or Ginobli/Duncan type of paring in Booker/Okafor or Durant/Westbrook with Booker/Brown (don't go crazy, just mean attacking wing duo).

[JMac1]

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

No. Too many posters attack any inside information. Plus, McD has been very tight lipped, not many leaks anymore sadly. Honestly would be nice to get one right about now.

*edit* this is my 9000th post on RealGM.

Congrats!

Edit: Damn I just looked up as saw I missed my 6k post

[Qwigglez]

^So there isn't any debate on whether or not you guys will take Ingram?

[DRK]

Wont be surprised if Philly moves both Okafor and Noel

Simmons and Noel as your 3 and 4 is putrid for spacing.

Philly trade Okafor to Suns for Knight, #4

Philly trade Noel to Celtics for #3? (Philly maybe have to add more here)

Philly take Simmons at 1, Hield at #3, and Dunn at #4.

Trot out a lineup next season

Dunn/Ish
Hield/Stauskas
Simmons/Covington
Saric/Covington
Embiid/Maker

Probably highly unrealistic to trot out a starting 5 of entirely rookies, but would be amazing to see

[Gorilla Warfare]

Would the NBA even allow one team to make 3 picks in the top 4? That would be unreal.

[bwgood77]

Wont be surprised if Philly moves both Okafor and Noel

Simmons and Noel as your 3 and 4 is putrid for spacing.

Philly trade Okafor to Suns for Knight, #4

Philly trade Noel to Celtics for #3? (Philly maybe have to add more here)

Philly take Simmons at 1, Hield at #3, and Dunn at #4.

Trot out a lineup next season

Dunn/Ish
Hield/Stauskas
Simmons/Covington
Saric/Covington
Embiid/Maker

Probably highly unrealistic to trot out a starting 5 of entirely rookies, but would be amazing to see

That would be a fun lineup to see, though probably more fun for floor spacing if Murray was pg.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

While I'm not interested in Okafor, I wouldn't be opposed to Noel. I don't think he's worth the #4, but if you combine him with a pick or two, I could be down. Then maybe move Len to Orlando. Maybe move Knight to one of Orlando or Philly. I could see Noel working well next to Ellenson, or Len working well next to Chriss. Don't think we should be looking at either at #4 - we should trade down from #4 or up from #13 if we like either.

Thon Maker looks like a solid project big. Wouldn't mind grabbing a pick in the late teens to nab him.

I wish the draft were tomorrow.

[JMac1]

While I'm not interested in Okafor, I wouldn't be opposed to Noel. I don't think he's worth the #4, but if you combine him with a pick or two, I could be down. Then maybe move Len to Orlando. Maybe move Knight to one of Orlando or Philly. I could see Noel working well next to Ellenson, or Len working well next to Chriss. Don't think we should be looking at either at #4 - we should trade down from #4 or up from #13 if we like either.

Thon Maker looks like a solid project big. Wouldn't mind grabbing a pick in the late teens to nab him.

I wish the draft were tomorrow.

Okafor>Noel
QI>Maker

[notsunsbum]

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

Hey guys, insider here.

So heres the scoop, my source tells me the 76ers might be looking for a PG and have actually put Noel or Jahlil on the trade block. They are DEFINITELY maybe looking to get into the top 6 for one of their two pieces. Also the suns are'nt interested in trading down but they really would like to get in that #1 or #2 spot by dangling brandon knight. If none of this happens you know how the NBA works boys, things can change on a whim! I'm just passing the word along from my inside multipliers. Please dont ask who because they dont want to get outed as it could cause some irreparable damage for her ticket scanning job.

[TeamTragic]

What about #4 for #11 + Vucevic?

You would be jumping seven spots. Maybe if you add in next years first rounder.

Goran, Vucevic is a good player. Averaged 18/9. One of the better centers in the league. Only 25. Locked up for the next 3 seasons at a reasonable salary. Plus we still would have two lottery picks. Its a good deal.

Then why don't the Magic value him enough to keep him? I'm concerned that he won't move the needle for this franchise.

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

Hey guys, insider here.

So heres the scoop, my source tells me the 76ers might be looking for a PG and have actually put Noel or Jahlil on the trade block. They are DEFINITELY maybe looking to get into the top 6 for one of their two pieces. Also the suns are'nt interested in trading down but they really would like to get in that #1 or #2 spot by dangling brandon knight. If none of this happens you know how the NBA works boys, things can change on a whim! I'm just passing the word along from my inside multipliers. Please dont ask who because they dont want to get outed as it could cause some irreparable damage for her ticket scanning job.

[notsunsbum]

Oh, also I wanted to leave you with the suns long list as to who we want to draft at #4 if any trades fall through.

1a.) Ingram
1b.) Thong Maker
B.) Simmons

[RaisingArizona]

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

Hey guys, insider here.

So heres the scoop, my source tells me the 76ers might be looking for a PG and have actually put Noel or Jahlil on the trade block. They are DEFINITELY maybe looking to get into the top 6 for one of their two pieces. Also the suns are'nt interested in trading down but they really would like to get in that #1 or #2 spot by dangling brandon knight. If none of this happens you know how the NBA works boys, things can change on a whim! I'm just passing the word along from my inside multipliers. Please dont ask who because they dont want to get outed as it could cause some irreparable damage for her ticket scanning job.

haha

[saintEscaton]

Ahh there isn't any insider anymore?

Hey guys, insider here.

So heres the scoop, my source tells me the 76ers might be looking for a PG and have actually put Noel or Jahlil on the trade block. They are DEFINITELY maybe looking to get into the top 6 for one of their two pieces. Also the suns are'nt interested in trading down but they really would like to get in that #1 or #2 spot by dangling brandon knight. If none of this happens you know how the NBA works boys, things can change on a whim! I'm just passing the word along from my inside multipliers. Please dont ask who because they dont want to get outed as it could cause some irreparable damage for her ticket scanning job.

Man that's an irresistible offer

[Kerrsed]

While I'm not interested in Okafor, I wouldn't be opposed to Noel. I don't think he's worth the #4, but if you combine him with a pick or two, I could be down. Then maybe move Len to Orlando. Maybe move Knight to one of Orlando or Philly. I could see Noel working well next to Ellenson, or Len working well next to Chriss. Don't think we should be looking at either at #4 - we should trade down from #4 or up from #13 if we like either.

Thon Maker looks like a solid project big. Wouldn't mind grabbing a pick in the late teens to nab him.

I wish the draft were tomorrow.

Im VERY open to Noel and would do #13/Knight for him and #24/#26. Pretty much the same Okafor trade, but with #13 rather than #4. That would net them a starting PG (Knight), but also would still give them the ability to trade Okafor to Boston for less than what they were asking (#3/Smart) but more than Boston was offering (#3). I think both of them would then be open to #3/Sullinger (as Embiid insurance).

So for Noel/Okafor, Philly gets #3/#13/Knight/Sullinger.

[TeamTragic]

While I'm not interested in Okafor, I wouldn't be opposed to Noel. I don't think he's worth the #4, but if you combine him with a pick or two, I could be down. Then maybe move Len to Orlando. Maybe move Knight to one of Orlando or Philly. I could see Noel working well next to Ellenson, or Len working well next to Chriss. Don't think we should be looking at either at #4 - we should trade down from #4 or up from #13 if we like either.

Thon Maker looks like a solid project big. Wouldn't mind grabbing a pick in the late teens to nab him.

I wish the draft were tomorrow.

Im VERY open to Noel and would do #13/Knight for him and #24/#26. Pretty much the same Okafor trade, but with #13 rather than #4. That would net them a starting PG (Knight), but also would still give them the ability to trade Okafor to Boston for less than what they were asking (#3/Smart) but more than Boston was offering (#3). I think both of them would then be open to #3/Sullinger (as Embiid insurance).

So for Noel/Okafor, Philly gets #3/#13/Knight/Sullinger.

That makes zero sense. We passed on Noel and chose Len. We don't really need a similar player though Okafor is a different story. That might change if we move Len in a massive trade.

#4/Knight for Okafor/Covington is a great offer and I assume we are giving Len one more season to improve.

[carey]

1b.) Thong Maker

Lol.

[sunsbum]

As much as I love Noel, (I wanted him waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more than Len), I'm not sure hes what we are needing especially with his lack of improvement on the other side of the ball.

[bwgood77]

The NBA has shifted to a jump shooting slash perimeter shooting game... which means defenders are also honed to stop scoring from that area.


The one area which has been overlooked is the inside...


Tim Duncan as recent as the 2013 and 2014 playoffs, have proven when shots stop falling, the Spurs had an inside guy who could score 20 and in crunch time too.

Very valuable. It also allows the team to have 2 options to score from.


I recall the golden era center days, where Hakeem would always get the ball, apply pressure inside, he either scored or kicked out to a Mario Ellie or Maxwell for an open 3pter... Robinson too...

Heck Barkley days, Majerle, Ainge at the perimeter worked... IN then OUT...

Sixers fan here.

Okafor is only available because he is behind a better player in Embiid at the 5, and isn't a good ft with Embiid, OR Simmons that is coming in, and is also a better player.

It isn't because he isn't wanted. He is just in a crowded front court, and could bring a lot back in trade to balance out our roster. Our wing, and guard talent is the worst in the league.

I would take 4 and Knight for him, and I think that the Sixers probably would too. Knight is a talented but flawed combo guard, that would instantly make us much better, and Dunn could be our starting point guard, and would really improve us too.

I can't stress enough to you the lack of talent that we have outside of our bigs, and we are about to add Simmons to the mix.

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What surprises me most is that there is just an assumption that Embiid is healthy. Is a frontcourt of Simmons, Noel and Embiid a good fit together? If you have those three and Dunn, that would leave you with very little shooting.