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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#421 » by Duke4life831 » Mon May 30, 2016 7:14 am

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cksdayoff wrote:If Hield's work ethic crosses over to the NBA, there is no telling what he can do. Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight are two players who are shorter than Hield and they are both dynamic scorers in the NBA. Hield is taller than those guys, has a longer wingspan than those guys, has great range on his shot, can attack the basket in a lot of different ways. Hield's step back is so silky smooth.



But they are PG's who can dribble and create their own shot


But Brandon Knight cant dribble, or shoot.


Brandon has a much better handle than Hield
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#422 » by DrCoach » Mon May 30, 2016 9:39 am

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cksdayoff wrote:If Hield's work ethic crosses over to the NBA, there is no telling what he can do. Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight are two players who are shorter than Hield and they are both dynamic scorers in the NBA. Hield is taller than those guys, has a longer wingspan than those guys, has great range on his shot, can attack the basket in a lot of different ways. Hield's step back is so silky smooth.



But they are PG's who can dribble and create their own shot


But Brandon Knight cant dribble, or shoot.



Brandon is a NBA PG, a PG that has shot 41% from 3 in the NBA.

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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#423 » by RollingWave » Mon May 30, 2016 12:27 pm

Knight can dribble, he just can't see the floor, neither can Hield as far as we can see.

I'm sure Hield won't end up on as many embarrasing vines or gif as Knight though, that's truly a unique talent on Knight's part.

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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#424 » by GimmeDat » Mon May 30, 2016 1:55 pm

Brandon Knight has value in the NBA, because he can shoot/score, and handle somewhat, but given his size/frame his potential lies/lied in his ability to develop in to a PG, but he doesn't have a great handle for a point, ormuch vision/talent running an offense whatsoever. Combine that with his lack of D and he's a flawed, albeit talented, player, that I think's destined to be a 6th man sort of guy.

Hield has similar flaws but I think it's clear that he's more of an SG and less of an on-ball player. Those abilities are far less important. I think he'll be able to take defenders off the dribble, but he won't be a creator, per se. He just needs to work on becoming a respectable defender and making smart passes within the offense, imo.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#425 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon May 30, 2016 2:17 pm

Hield is 2 inches taller and has a longer wingspan compared to Knight and much longer than reddick. Has a pretty strong frame to absorb some contact too.
I don't know why, but I see a future star in Hield, he showed remarkable progression in his senior year, combined with his amazing work ethic, which indicates he may get better despite being "old". Being 22 years old doesn't necessarily means he is not gonna improve more.
His lightning quick release combined with his long wingspan will translate, I have no doubt about it.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#426 » by RollingWave » Mon May 30, 2016 3:01 pm

Maybe Hield is like Lillard without the PG skills but more defense and size? I guess that's probably the most optimistic outcome and certainly anyone would sign up for that after the top 3.

But we should note that it's really hard to project who can defend and who can't in the NBA for perimeter players, especially past the extreme ends. plenty of wing span monsters suck horribly once drafted (awareness and BBIQ is simply too hard to objectively measure.) and some guys with limited defensive upsides turned into solid defenders (mostly because they're hard workers and have good feel for the game.)
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Post#427 » by Showtime:Part2 » Tue May 31, 2016 7:08 am

regardless of what we all think of him, i think we can all agree he is a dead eye shooter. as a result i'd be stunned if minn doesn't pick him at 5. they were one of the worst 3pt shooting teams this year.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#428 » by rick_21 » Tue May 31, 2016 4:39 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:regardless of what we all think of him, i think we can all agree he is a dead eye shooter. as a result i'd be stunned if minn doesn't pick him at 5. they were one of the worst 3pt shooting teams this year.


It is not as simple as that.

It's a fact that Minnesota was one of the worst shooting teams this year, and Buddy Hield is probably the best shooter in this draft, buy 1+1 not always equals 2, and certainly this is not the case.

Hield is going to play strictly SG in the NBA (He does not have PG skills and is not big enough to guard most SF) so his minutes will be like 90 % at the SG position. However the Wolves have a promising young SG that has the same positional restriction in Zach LaVine. In addition to that, the Wolves were an awful shooting team, but LaVine was one of the only two starters that could be considered above average shooters (the other one being Karl-Anthony Towns).

So, if the Wolves draft Buddy Hield, he will be taking his minutes away from LaVine, and in fact they would be replacing an already good shooter with another great shooter with less NBA experience, and I don't think that would suddenly fix their shooting woes.

In my opinion, to improve their overall shooting the Wolves need Andrew Wiggins to work hard on his shot, Ricky Rubio to maintain his percentages from the last two months of the season, and of course to add some good shooters to their bench, but preferably players that can play multiple positions. Buddy Hield is an option there, yes, but as long as they trust Zach LaVine moving forward, they would have little use for Buddy, and he would produce poor value for them as a #5 pick.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#429 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Tue May 31, 2016 5:27 pm

rick_21 wrote:
Showtime:Part2 wrote:regardless of what we all think of him, i think we can all agree he is a dead eye shooter. as a result i'd be stunned if minn doesn't pick him at 5. they were one of the worst 3pt shooting teams this year.


It is not as simple as that.

It's a fact that Minnesota was one of the worst shooting teams this year, and Buddy Hield is probably the best shooter in this draft, buy 1+1 not always equals 2, and certainly this is not the case.

Hield is going to play strictly SG in the NBA (He does not have PG skills and is not big enough to guard most SF) so his minutes will be like 90 % at the SG position. However the Wolves have a promising young SG that has the same positional restriction in Zach LaVine. In addition to that, the Wolves were an awful shooting team, but LaVine was one of the only two starters that could be considered above average shooters (the other one being Karl-Anthony Towns).

So, if the Wolves draft Buddy Hield, he will be taking his minutes away from LaVine, and in fact they would be replacing an already good shooter with another great shooter with less NBA experience, and I don't think that would suddenly fix their shooting woes.

In my opinion, to improve their overall shooting the Wolves need Andrew Wiggins to work hard on his shot, Ricky Rubio to maintain his percentages from the last two months of the season, and of course to add some good shooters to their bench, but preferably players that can play multiple positions. Buddy Hield is an option there, yes, but as long as they trust Zach LaVine moving forward, they would have little use for Buddy, and he would produce poor value for them as a #5 pick.


It can work, Hield can get 30 minutes a night on the Wolves, enough to justify his draft position.

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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#430 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Tue May 31, 2016 5:29 pm

Hield strikes me as a bigger Ben Gordon. Same type of skill set, same type of advantages and disadvantages.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#431 » by HotelVitale » Tue May 31, 2016 6:29 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Hield is 2 inches taller and has a longer wingspan compared to Knight and much longer than reddick. Has a pretty strong frame to absorb some contact too.

Sure, but he's also not close to the same wild shot maker that Redick was/is, and he doesn't have the point guard basics of Knight (who has bad vision, but he was handling and driving from the start as a prospect). So there's no real reason to compare their bodies, since they simply don't do what Hield does.

Like I've said before here, people who really like Hield have to think he'll be able to do Gilbert Arenas-type things: shoot quickly off the dribble from 30ft, keep defenders off balance with some shifty moves, and nail step back and crossover threes with ease. If he's not doing that stuff, he'll still be able to score but I start wondering if most teams won't have better options, or similar options that can contribute in other ways. Remember, to be an offense-first 2-guard in the NBA, you don't just have to be good--you have to be one of the best 20 or so guys at that in the world.
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Re: Buddy Hield 

Post#432 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Jun 2, 2016 9:22 pm

I think his fit next to Simmons is incredibly intriguing.

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