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If we keep the 4th pick, who do you want to take?

Bender
57
51%
Brown
15
14%
Chriss
8
7%
Dunn
6
5%
Ellenson
4
4%
Hield
11
10%
Murray
10
9%
 
Total votes: 111

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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1961 » by bhawk » Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:02 pm



Really like the Buddy comp. I had not heard the comp of Michael Redd, but it makes sense. The guy was a sick shooter. I do not buy the JJ Redick comp. Buddy is much more athletic and has a better handle than JJ with better work ethic and leadership too.

Demetrius Jackson comp is Damian Lilliard high / Mike Conley low. Solid.

Damian Jones gets Derek Favors - What??

Henry Ellenson gets Derrick Coleman. Don't like this one. Coleman was fat, but very athletic. Almost like Barkley.

Love the Denzel Valentine comp of Joe Johnson. Definitely see that.

Sabonis gets Zach Randolph. No way, unless he develops a crazy good post up game.

Good article, Kerrsed. Thanks for posting.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1962 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:03 pm

http://en.yibada.com/articles/127934/20160531/nba-draft-boston-celtics-pick-jaylen-brown-3-cal-standout.htm

In a recent chat at Basketball Insiders, Steve Kyler replied to a Boston Celtics fan who asked about the possibility of their team drafting Brown.

"I am not at all worried about Jaylen Brown. I think he's a great fit in Boston and exactly the kind of guy Ainge gravitates towards - high basketball IQ guys that play hard and loves to be coached," Kyler said.

Kyler also had an opinion on the Buddy Hield vs. Brown debate specifically the point where Hield is a better pick because he is more NBA-ready.

"I think you may be looking at the draft the wrong way - the draft rarely produces win-now players, so if its going to take a year or two why not draft a kid with tremendous upside that fits your vision and your culture. I think people have become too quick to look at what a kid may not have done well in college and try to define him by it, rather than looking at what he does really well and trying to build on that," Kyler said.


I think he is talking to BW :wink:
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1963 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:11 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Latest DraftExpress Top 8:

1. 76ers - Simmons
2. Lakers - Ingram
3. Boston - Brown
4. Phoenix - Bender
5. Minnesota - Dunn
6. NO - Murray
7. Denver - Hield
8. Sacramento - Chriss


I see the top 5 all have two-way potential. I see it playing out that way too unless the Philly trade occurs and of course 3 and 4 flip. But just the fact that DX has Brown at 3 now says a lot people. The man could be the shizznits....


But that is more of Givony's personal opinion. He has always been really high on Brown. Now many refer to his rankings when creating their mocks, but the mocks that take nba scout input into account have him lower...more like 7.

Ford's Big Board actually has him ranked 10th.

From Ford's latest Big Board

10. Jaylen Brown


Previous rank: No. 10
Cal
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Forward

Brown is the most polarizing player at the top of the draft. He has the athleticism and body of a top-three pick. However, his play at Cal raised serious questions about whether he has the basketball skills to match his physical ones.

His interviews also drew mixed reviews. He's incredibly intelligent, but team officials said he came across as arrogant.

Does he just need more time to develop his game? Is he a power forward stuck in the body of a small forward? These are some of the questions teams are asking.

He could go as high as No. 3. He could also end up in the late teens or early 20s.


http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15555154/chad-ford-nba-draft-2016-big-board-80-ranking-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray


I see Ford hasn't updated his take on Brown since the draft combine....the arrogance bit gives that away. Brown first workout was said to have gone well, so he should be moving up if he supposedly base his stuff off of whats being said.

Everything I read has Brown going high and I have googled him more than any other player thus far. Ford is an outlier. Azcentral had the Bender or Brown mock draft, that is more telling than Ford IMO.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1964 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:16 pm

JMac1 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
I see the top 5 all have two-way potential. I see it playing out that way too unless the Philly trade occurs and of course 3 and 4 flip. But just the fact that DX has Brown at 3 now says a lot people. The man could be the shizznits....


But that is more of Givony's personal opinion. He has always been really high on Brown. Now many refer to his rankings when creating their mocks, but the mocks that take nba scout input into account have him lower...more like 7.

Ford's Big Board actually has him ranked 10th.

From Ford's latest Big Board

10. Jaylen Brown


Previous rank: No. 10
Cal
Freshman
Forward

Brown is the most polarizing player at the top of the draft. He has the athleticism and body of a top-three pick. However, his play at Cal raised serious questions about whether he has the basketball skills to match his physical ones.

His interviews also drew mixed reviews. He's incredibly intelligent, but team officials said he came across as arrogant.

Does he just need more time to develop his game? Is he a power forward stuck in the body of a small forward? These are some of the questions teams are asking.

He could go as high as No. 3. He could also end up in the late teens or early 20s.


http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15555154/chad-ford-nba-draft-2016-big-board-80-ranking-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray


I see Ford hasn't updated his take on Brown since the draft combine....the arrogance bit gives that away. Brown first workout was said to have gone well, so he should be moving up if he supposedly base his stuff off of whats being said.

Everything I read has Brown going high and I have googled him more than any other player thus far. Ford is an outlier. Azcentral had the Bender or Brown mock draft, that is more telling than Ford IMO.


AZcentral more telling than Ford? That's interesting. What first workout went well and can you post what was said and a link? I must have missed that. But if it's just one team saying they were really impressed that can also be a major smokescreen in hopes someone else above them will take him so someone else might slide to them.

However, I expect his workouts to all be impressive. That's why his stock is where it is. His workouts, athleticism, etc. He only struggles when he has to play competitive basketball at an extremely high level.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1965 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 2:21 pm

JMac1 wrote:http://en.yibada.com/articles/127934/20160531/nba-draft-boston-celtics-pick-jaylen-brown-3-cal-standout.htm

In a recent chat at Basketball Insiders, Steve Kyler replied to a Boston Celtics fan who asked about the possibility of their team drafting Brown.

"I am not at all worried about Jaylen Brown. I think he's a great fit in Boston and exactly the kind of guy Ainge gravitates towards - high basketball IQ guys that play hard and loves to be coached," Kyler said.

Kyler also had an opinion on the Buddy Hield vs. Brown debate specifically the point where Hield is a better pick because he is more NBA-ready.

"I think you may be looking at the draft the wrong way - the draft rarely produces win-now players, so if its going to take a year or two why not draft a kid with tremendous upside that fits your vision and your culture. I think people have become too quick to look at what a kid may not have done well in college and try to define him by it, rather than looking at what he does really well and trying to build on that," Kyler said.


I think he is talking to BW :wink:


I actually agree with what he is saying, even though I think Kyler is a hack who is certainly not really an insider. I just don't really like what he HAS done well. Well actually to state it more clearly, he really didn't do anything particularly well.

The thing with Brown is that it is just drafting that PURE athlete and hoping you have the right coach and development to translate it into nba basketball skills.

Now if someone has already demonstrated they are a good passer, good shooter, has a high steal rate, high block rate, high rebound rate, or a skill like that, than I'd consider those as better things to look at as a thing someone does really well that you can hope to build on.

Though I know there are quite a few who are SO enamored by his athleticism they just fall in love with the guy.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1966 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:23 pm

Brown is a tough one for me. I like the idea of a guy like brown more than I like him specifically as a prospect if that makes sense. I totally think the suns need more athletes on the roster and brown has everything you could ask for physically from a wing. But on the flip side i totally get the concerns with his stats and weaknesses so I get why some people want no part of him at 4. I guess where I stand is I'm cool with them taking him if they feel they can coach him up because I don't feel this team is close to contending so I'm totally fine going with a high upside but high bust potential guy like brown.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1967 » by bhawk » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:42 pm

Buddy Hield shooting, leadership, competitiveness, clutchness, work ethic + Jaylen Brown athleticism and size = Kobe Bryant or a better James Harden.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1968 » by carey » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:42 pm

I guess you all have seen that Givony updated his mock? He has the Celtics taking Chriss at #3, Suns with Bender at #4 and still Deyonta Davis at #13.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1969 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:43 pm

My take as of right now and what I would do:

Pick # 4:
1. Bender - highest upside, complements our team and a position of need.
2. Trade for Okafor or some other high level player (draft whoever Phil or opposing team wants and trade them)
3. Jaylen Brown - Supposedly he has a good work ethic so hopefully he keeps working at it and he gets better.

Pick #13:
1. If we draft Bender, I wouldn't be unhappy drafting Baldwin. I think he has the potential to be the best PG in the draft with that length (which seems to translate well for PG's in the NBA) and I'd much prefer drafting him at this spot over Dunn at #4. Also wouldn't be a terrible idea to have Bledsoe insurance and a decent backup PG.
2. If we don't draft Bender, I'd take the best PF left on the board in this order: 1)Skal 2)Davis 3)Chris
3. If none of these options are viable, I'd be ok with Valentine as well

Pick #28:
1. Draft and stash center: 1)Ante Zizic 2)Ivaca Zubac 3)Zhou Qi 4)Petr Cornelie
2. Thon Maker
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1970 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:57 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
But that is more of Givony's personal opinion. He has always been really high on Brown. Now many refer to his rankings when creating their mocks, but the mocks that take nba scout input into account have him lower...more like 7.

Ford's Big Board actually has him ranked 10th.

From Ford's latest Big Board



http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15555154/chad-ford-nba-draft-2016-big-board-80-ranking-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram-jamal-murray


I see Ford hasn't updated his take on Brown since the draft combine....the arrogance bit gives that away. Brown first workout was said to have gone well, so he should be moving up if he supposedly base his stuff off of whats being said.

Everything I read has Brown going high and I have googled him more than any other player thus far. Ford is an outlier. Azcentral had the Bender or Brown mock draft, that is more telling than Ford IMO.


AZcentral more telling than Ford? That's interesting. What first workout went well and can you post what was said and a link? I must have missed that. But if it's just one team saying they were really impressed that can also be a major smokescreen in hopes someone else above them will take him so someone else might slide to them.

However, I expect his workouts to all be impressive. That's why his stock is where it is. His workouts, athleticism, etc. He only struggles when he has to play competitive basketball at an extremely high level.


Are you serious? I am not going back to look for it, but it was And 1'd by many. It said he did well in his "DAME" workout and shot the ball well. I posted it immediately after it was reported.
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Post#1971 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 3:58 pm

carey wrote:I guess you all have seen that Givony updated his mock? He has the Celtics taking Chriss at #3, Suns with Bender at #4 and still Deyonta Davis at #13.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/


I guess I had forgotten that he had a different page with the teams listed. I've always thought his mock on the front page (without the teams) was more of his personal big board.

I still wonder and would like to know how much discussion he has with nba scouts and/or GMs, but I'm guessing that increases day by day especially now that he works for/with Woj, who obviously has some high level sources like GMs.

But Chriss at 3 is extremely interesting. I know it had been mentioned yesterday here that Brown had moved to 3 but that had happened days ago.

Interesting that Brown moved all the way down to 7, where Ford has him.

I would love a draft with Bender, Davis and Bembry. Now Bembry's profile is somewhat similar to Brown's though he has less length. I still don't like that he is also bad from 3 and the FT line, but his ast/to ratio, fg%, and foul rate are all less than Brown, and his steals are almost double to Brown. Now since I am high on Warren being a starter, I think taking a guy in the late first with this skill set makes more sense as he likely projects to be more of a backup, and Davis would give insurance on Bender if he turns a bust and vice' versa.

As for Bembry, from DX:

Coming out of St. Patrick's high school in New Jersey, DeAndre Bembry was not particularly well-known when he announced his decision to attend Saint Joseph's in Philadelphia, only rated as the #251 recruit in the country at the time according to the RSCI.

He quickly showed that he's a much better prospect than he was given credit for, though, being named the Atlantic 10 rookie of the year. A strong sophomore campaign, where he was named a first-team All-Conference player, put him firmly on the NBA radar. He really broke out on the national stage as a junior, winning A-10 Player of the Year honors, and helping his team make the NCAA Tournament Round of 32, where they lost a close game to #1 seed Oregon.



Bembry has good physical tools for a shooting guard prospect, standing just a hair under 6'6 in shoes, with a 6'9 ¼ wingspan, and a solid frame he can continue to work on in an NBA weight room. He's a good athlete on top of that, capable of playing above the rim impressively in space off one or two feet, covering ground nicely with solid open-court speed, and being a little quicker off the floor than you might initially expect.

Bembry's calling card offensively lies with his versatility, as he showed the ability to slide anywhere between the point guard to power forward position at the college level, while being just as effective operating on or off the ball.

He is at his best in the open floor, where his long strides, ability to get low to the ground, and creativity operating at different speeds really shines through. He has excellent footwork and is really crafty with the way he finishes around the rim, never looking sped up and usually operating at his own unique pace.

In the half-court, Bembry is your classic “fill in the blanks” swiss army knife. He shows great instincts moving off the ball and sniffing out opportunities to make strong cuts to the rim and get easy baskets. He also uses his polished footwork and slithery body control to do some damage in the post, throwing in smooth hook shots and turnaround jumpers while drawing fouls at a nice rate. His long strides help him get to the rim off closeouts and other quick actions, as he often only needs a single dribble to make it all the way to the basket.

Bembry's most polished skill is likely his passing ability, as his 4.7 assists per-40 ranked third among wings in our Top-100 prospect rankings. He's a highly unselfish player with an outstanding feel for making his teammates better, regularly whipping the ball ahead in transition, finding the open man in drive and dish situations and showing excellent timing passing out of the pick and roll. He sees plays developing instinctually and doesn't need to dribble to facilitate for others, which keeps the half-court offense flowing smoothly, as he can pass the ball with either hand using his excellent court vision over the top of the defense.



The biggest thing Bembry will need to work on to find a niche in the NBA is the consistency of his outside shot. He's shown some potential in this area at times, knocking down 122 3-pointers in 102 games at the college level, which indicates he's far from a non-shooter. Still, he's just a career 31% 3-point shooter overall, and regressed every year beyond the arc with his percentages at the college level (35% to 33% to 27%), while his career 62% shooting from the free throw line is not terribly encouraging either. His footwork is not great and really slows down his release, as he takes too much time to 1-2 into his shot rather than hopping into it, and at times tends to flail his elbow out or even hold onto the ball too long, which gives him inconsistent results.

While Bembry was decent shooting the ball with his feet set through his college career, he really struggled at times pulling up off the dribble, as he tends to shoot on the way down too often. Bembry's struggles off the dribble could really limit his ability to make plays with the ball at the NBA level, as he is not the most explosive athlete you'll find in terms of his pure first step, being more smooth than he is overwhelmingly fast twitch changing gears, and won't be able to live inside the paint the way other wing players with limited range can.

Bembry is still evolving as a shot-creator, as even at the college level, he wasn't quite elite in pick and roll or isolation situations, and doesn't really project as a guy you simply give the ball to and ask to make magic off multiple dribbles as the shot-clock runs down. He can still stand to tighten up his ball-handling skills, particularly driving left, and can be a little bit predictable with what he's trying to accomplish in the half-court.

Scouts would like to see Bembry develop a little bit more of a sense of urgency as well, as there were too many games he competed in at the college level where he simply didn't really leave his mark, despite being by far the best player on the court. He has a bit of a laid back attitude, lending to a tendency to blend in, and can be overly unselfish at times.

This shows up most vividly on the defensive end, where despite having quick feet, solid length and excellent instincts and anticipation skills, his intensity level tends to come and go. He doesn't always fight over screens as aggressively as you might hope, and can lose his focus and fall asleep off the ball.

Some of this may have been systematic, as St. Joe's was a much better team offensively this season than they were defensively. Bembry was also simply too important for them to risk getting him in foul trouble, and at 37 minutes per game while shouldering a heavy offensive load, he probably needed to find somewhere to rest at times.

Nevertheless, Bembry's excellent timing covering ground and getting in the passing lanes, coming up with blocks, and going out of his area for defensive rebounds showed his potential on this end of the floor, so there's no reason he can't be better in this area when surrounded by better talent and this becomes more of a focal point.

Bembry's ability to develop a consistent jump-shot could be somewhat of a make or break factor in today's NBA, but he's demonstrated enough potential in this area to believe he can continue to improve in this area. It won't be surprising at all if some NBA front office or coaching staff falls in love with his overall feel for the game and versatility and decides to select him in the mid to late first round regardless, as it's difficult to find players in his mold who can be utilized in as many roles and configurations as he can (provided he can hit spot-up jumpers).


http://www.draftexpress.com/article/DeAndre-Bembry-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-5496/
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1972 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:00 pm

carey wrote:I guess you all have seen that Givony updated his mock? He has the Celtics taking Chriss at #3, Suns with Bender at #4 and still Deyonta Davis at #13.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/


:o

Crazy. Just crazy. Gotta think Givony has some info to make such a bold prediction.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1973 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:03 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:http://en.yibada.com/articles/127934/20160531/nba-draft-boston-celtics-pick-jaylen-brown-3-cal-standout.htm

In a recent chat at Basketball Insiders, Steve Kyler replied to a Boston Celtics fan who asked about the possibility of their team drafting Brown.

"I am not at all worried about Jaylen Brown. I think he's a great fit in Boston and exactly the kind of guy Ainge gravitates towards - high basketball IQ guys that play hard and loves to be coached," Kyler said.

Kyler also had an opinion on the Buddy Hield vs. Brown debate specifically the point where Hield is a better pick because he is more NBA-ready.

"I think you may be looking at the draft the wrong way - the draft rarely produces win-now players, so if its going to take a year or two why not draft a kid with tremendous upside that fits your vision and your culture. I think people have become too quick to look at what a kid may not have done well in college and try to define him by it, rather than looking at what he does really well and trying to build on that," Kyler said.


I think he is talking to BW :wink:


I actually agree with what he is saying, even though I think Kyler is a hack who is certainly not really an insider. I just don't really like what he HAS done well. Well actually to state it more clearly, he really didn't do anything particularly well.

The thing with Brown is that it is just drafting that PURE athlete and hoping you have the right coach and development to translate it into nba basketball skills.


Now if someone has already demonstrated they are a good passer, good shooter, has a high steal rate, high block rate, high rebound rate, or a skill like that, than I'd consider those as better things to look at as a thing someone does really well that you can hope to build on.

Though I know there are quite a few who are SO enamored by his athleticism they just fall in love with the guy.


:nonono: You are killing me BW. You mean to tell me you haven't seen any basketball skills from Brown? You can't see his shot isn't broken or his step back or his spin move or his suddeness or his change of direction or his getting to the basket or moments of good handles in all of those highlights? You act as if it is just dunk after dunk.

I have seen a montage of "basketball" skills from him, although it may be inconsistent (which is expected from a teenager) he has displayed them.
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Post#1974 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:07 pm

carey wrote:I guess you all have seen that Givony updated his mock? He has the Celtics taking Chriss at #3, Suns with Bender at #4 and still Deyonta Davis at #13.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/

I would be very happy with these results (all of our picks) if this were to happen.
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Post#1975 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:11 pm

bhawk wrote:Buddy Hield shooting, leadership, competitiveness, clutchness, work ethic + Jaylen Brown athleticism and size = Kobe Bryant or a better James Harden.


Or potentially a Kawhi Leonard type now that Kawhi suddenly became an elite 3 pt shooter. I think at one pt his 3pt fg% was the best in the nba.

I wouldn't exactly call Kobe and Harden good when it comes to leadership. They strike me as a little more selfish.
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Post#1976 » by darealjuice » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:12 pm

It is just dunk after dunk after dunk lol, almost all of his highlight reels are him getting it in transition, making one change of direction with an in and out or hesitation dribble, and dunking. His jump shot form needs to be changed, in my mind that's pretty broken, his step back isn't even good, and neither is his ball handling.

Just saw Chriss at #3 on DX lol I've been saying he'd get into the top 5 since before he was even on their mock draft in mid March, so I'm pretty happy about that, although I kind of doubt he goes that early.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1977 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:12 pm

If we get Bender, I really hope he learns how to attack the basket and develops an elbow pull-up, then he can be a franchise type guy.
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Post#1978 » by JMac1 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:18 pm

darealjuice wrote:It is just dunk after dunk after dunk lol, almost all of his highlight reels are him getting it in transition, making one change of direction with an in and out or hesitation dribble, and dunking. His jump shot form needs to be changed, in my mind that's pretty broken, his step back isn't even good, and neither is his ball handling.

Just saw Chriss at #3 on DX lol I've been saying he'd get into the top 5 since before he was even on their mock draft in mid March, so I'm pretty happy about that, although I kind of doubt he goes that early.



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6rEF4fRdjE[/youtube]


Maybe you should have watched this one. Especially when it talks about his shooting potential. Totally disagrees with you about shot being broken, actually says the opposite :o
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Post#1979 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:20 pm

JMac1 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:http://en.yibada.com/articles/127934/20160531/nba-draft-boston-celtics-pick-jaylen-brown-3-cal-standout.htm



I think he is talking to BW :wink:


I actually agree with what he is saying, even though I think Kyler is a hack who is certainly not really an insider. I just don't really like what he HAS done well. Well actually to state it more clearly, he really didn't do anything particularly well.

The thing with Brown is that it is just drafting that PURE athlete and hoping you have the right coach and development to translate it into nba basketball skills.


Now if someone has already demonstrated they are a good passer, good shooter, has a high steal rate, high block rate, high rebound rate, or a skill like that, than I'd consider those as better things to look at as a thing someone does really well that you can hope to build on.

Though I know there are quite a few who are SO enamored by his athleticism they just fall in love with the guy.


:nonono: You are killing me BW. You mean to tell me you haven't seen any basketball skills from Brown? You can't see his shot isn't broken or his step back or his spin move or his suddeness or his change of direction or his getting to the basket or moments of good handles in all of those highlights? You act as if it is just dunk after dunk.

I have seen a montage of "basketball" skills from him, although it may be inconsistent (which is expected from a teenager) he has displayed them.


I wouldn't necessarily agree that his shot isn't broken or that he is THAT good at changing direction. If he has strengths they are having a good first step, as a finisher, and his ability to get to the line (which could be valuable if he was a better FT shooter).

I think this guy has a pretty good write up on him.

Brown, to put it simply, has the foundational skills it takes to be in an NBA rotation but it seems he's always skated by on his athleticism, so he hasn’t had to polish the finer details of his game. This especially becomes problematic in half court situations, where the importance of a player’s raw athleticism is minimized.

Shooting 29.1 percent on threes and 64.8 percent on free throws, Brown will first need to improve as a shooter. He hasn’t displayed the ability to hit long-distance shots on the move or off the dribble, and even in standstill spot-up situations he has a low success rate.

Brown has sluggish footwork that gives defenders time to close out to contest his shots. NBA defenders will probably help hard off him, which could hinder his team’s spacing. His legs also don’t turn as he kicks his legs forward, which could cause tension in his neck and shoulders. Brown also misses with occasional air balls, which suggests there’s an issue with the release off his fingers.

However, Brown does have soft touch that he displays near the rim. So there’s hope he improves if his pre-draft trainers and NBA coaches correctly tinker with his mechanics.

But in the meantime, this major weakness is compounded by the fact Brown’s decision-making can be mind-boggling. His 51 assists to 81 turnovers is one of the worst ratios of all 2016 draft prospects, and his flaws go beyond the numbers.

Brown is a willing passer, but he’s more likely to barrel into a packed lane (like he does in the clip above) instead of making a pass within the flow of the offense. This is one of his primary sources of turnovers, since help defenders can easily poke away at the ball or Brown is forced to toss up an ugly shot.

He has flashes of shiftiness and the ability to change pace, but he tends to lose speed when he changes directions because of his upright ball-handling stance.

Brown has a bad habit of forcing up heavily contested mid-range jumpers, like this one against Stanford. With 18 seconds left on the clock, Brown gets tunnel vision and misses his completely open teammate on the left wing. He needs to learn how to drive with a plan or else it’ll be hard for his coaches to trust him to execute as a turnover-prone rookie.


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/nba-draft-2016-jaylen-brown-cal-scouting-report/u1a1j5atvpmr1o00ukxo7ve5c
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#1980 » by dremill24 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:22 pm

It seems very likely that we're looking at either Bender or Brown. I just don't see McDonough taking any of the guards.
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