Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max II

[kayath]

Some of you are missing an important point : of course the money is very important but i don't think this time Hassan will accept to be ignored so often on offense like he was this year. He was very frustrated about it. I believe he got some guarantee from Pat Riley.
I still don't see how can a Dragic and Whiteside work...

Conley is a perfect fit for this team but i dont think we can get him.

Hassan has to work on his cardio specially with that small ball area, he has to run.

You too? I thought you had more basketball knowledge than saying something like that.

[twix2500]

Spoiler:

Not sure why you're rolling your eyes. Wade took a slight cut to bring in Lebron and Bosh early in his career to build a dynasty. I just don't see any reason for Wade to take 5-6M less to retain Whiteside and still not have depth. 2 totally different situations.

Yeah. Wade taking less than what he's worth has never happened before...

If there's a reason to take less, he will. If there isn't, he won't.

That's not the only time he's signed for less than what he is worth...he took the biggest discount of the big 3 btw. That was more for Udonis Haslem than anyone else.

Wade would do it for Hassan for the same reason Dragic did it for Wade. It wasn't expected, but it happened anyway. There's precedence. He has expressed that he wants to re-sign here without the drama.

I think that has been a bad assumption that Dragic took less. There was an interview where the interviewer ask him about taking less, and he paused in confusion and responded I didnt take less and the interviewer just went to the next question. I know many assumed Dragic was gonna get max, but he didnt.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Well at least he wont get destroyed by the first poing guard and dissapeared in the last quarter...
And again if you take Durant, Whiteside is gonna be ignored even more on offense.

That's a given. He's already the 3rd or 4th option on our healthy team with Durant it only gets pushed back more.

Either way he's getting paid because of the dirty work. Not his offense.


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[Hallstar]

Spoiler:

Not sure why you're rolling your eyes. Wade took a slight cut to bring in Lebron and Bosh early in his career to build a dynasty. I just don't see any reason for Wade to take 5-6M less to retain Whiteside and still not have depth. 2 totally different situations.

That's not the only time he's signed for less than what he is worth...he took the biggest discount of the big 3 btw. That was more for Udonis Haslem than anyone else.

Wade would do it for Hassan for the same reason Dragic did it for Wade. It wasn't expected, but it happened anyway. There's precedence. He has expressed that he wants to re-sign here without the drama.

I think that has been a bad assumption that Dragic took less. There was an interview where the interviewer ask him about taking less, and he paused in confusion and responded I didnt take less and the interviewer just went to the next question. I know many assumed Dragic was gonna get max, but he didnt.

Lol, didn't even know that

Common sense would say Dragic wasn't getting 100+ million. Just like nobody is paying Conley 25 million per year

[goodboy]

Some of you are missing an important point : of course the money is very important but i don't think this time Hassan will accept to be ignored so often on offense like he was this year. He was very frustrated about it. I believe he got some guarantee from Pat Riley.
I still don't see how can a Dragic and Whiteside work...

Conley is a perfect fit for this team but i dont think we can get him.

Hassan has to work on his cardio specially with that small ball area, he has to run.

You too? I thought you had more basketball knowledge than saying something like that.

What are you talking about? Maroko has been the biggest Dragic fan ever, I don't think he means it

[IggieCC]

small ball area is small

[SOUL]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

[gom]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

Whiteside can't score and he can't defend. He's a terrible player. Magic fans should look elsewhere.

[goodboy]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

Whiteside can't score and he can't defend. He's a terrible player. Magic fans should look elsewhere.

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[kayath]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

His defense are mostly blocks and big presence under the rim, but overall he is still very raw defender while he is slow with help on the blocks and he rarely double teams. He can be dominant defender if he improves in that area but that is probably my wishful thinking.

[gom]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

His defense are mostly blocks and big presence under the rim, but overall he is still very raw defender while he is slow with help on the blocks and he rarely double teams. He can be dominant defender if he improves in that area but that is probably my wishful thinking.

Mostly he just stands around. He does have a +100 rating on NBA2K though.

[SOUL]

Whiteside can't score and he can't defend. He's a terrible player. Magic fans should look elsewhere.

Shucks.

Are you sure he even likes world class strippers, great weather and actual nightlife? If so, I'm afraid nothing will entice him to move 2 hours north. Unless he's a Disney fanatic, boy are you guys in for a world of hurt. He's going to be powered off of a lifetime supply of Dole Whip.

[Dr_Heat]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

He phucking sucks, simply as that . Stay away from him , you guys are better attempting to sign Toronto's biyombo.

[Swindle]

Whiteside can't score and he can't defend. He's a terrible player. Magic fans should look elsewhere.

Shucks.

Are you sure he even likes world class strippers, great weather and actual nightlife? If so, I'm afraid nothing will entice him to move 2 hours north. Unless he's a Disney fanatic, boy are you guys in for a world of hurt. He's going to be powered off of a lifetime supply of Dole Whip.

Please do not waste precious Dole Whip trying to get him. As soon as he gets his Dole Whip he's not even gonna care about basketball anymore. Next Andrew Bynum.

[DayofMourning]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

I'm opening myself for some major pain here, but how about we sign and trade you Whiteside for Hezonja, 11th pick, and filler?

[Dr_Heat]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

I'm opening myself for some major pain here, but how about we sign and trade you Whiteside for Hezonja, 11th pick, and filler?

Sorry buddy but

[goodboy]

Hey Heat fans, I have a question for you guys.

We on the Magic board are debating a hypothetical Whiteside coming to Orlando scenario (we know he won't, but it's the summer and we're bored) -- how was his defense this year?

People keep bringing up the stat that your team was better with him off the court than actually on it, and are using that as a huge justification to hypothetically rolling with Vucevic over him, but is there more to it or it is just a weird stat?

I'm opening myself for some major pain here, but how about we sign and trade you Whiteside for Hezonja, 11th pick, and filler?

Hey DoM, turn around.

Spoiler:

[DayofMourning]

Nevermind SOUL, the pain is too much. Its coming in hard and heavy. Forget I even said anything.

[goodboy]

Nevermind SOUL, the pain is too much. Its coming in hard and heavy. Forget I even said anything.

[SOUL]

I'm opening myself for some major pain here, but how about we sign and trade you Whiteside for Hezonja, 11th pick, and filler?

I myself would want to see Hezonja after another year. If he could have Klay-like value in the future, I definitely want him to stay because we are already starved shooting wise. He had pretty good percentages for this year despite barely getting minutes or opportunity, plus I think most Magic fans want to see what Vogel can do for our young core before making any moves. It would be a no-brainer move if we're just comparing this past year but basketball is silly.

I don't think the Magic would really want to acquire Whiteside via trade (only through FA), we could always trade Vuc during the season and get some lower tier defensive centers in free agency and even draft one like Deyonta Davis. I also don't think we're going anywhere with Vuc as a starting center but it remains to be seen.

You guys wouldn't do it though, as I think Whiteside is pretty damn valuable to you guys. I was just curious about his defense as a lot of Magic fans seem to think it's not great, and think Vogel will turn Vuc into a plus defender. But my argument was that if he is able to do that with Vuc, Whiteside would be a monster.