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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#101 » by Slartibartfast » Wed Jun 1, 2016 6:44 pm

Fischella wrote:Tyrus was never ever a tweener or projectable as a SF and whoever even thought of that had 0 idea of his game.
He played like a C for LSU and was mainly that when succesful at the next elvel too.


Tyrus had the build of a 3/4 tweener and wanted to be an SF - not saying he was good at it.

I think Chriss has a similar build and similar strengths and weaknesses, albeit with more perimeter game than Tyrus ever had.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#102 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Jun 1, 2016 7:25 pm

Chriss reminds me of Marcus Morris.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#103 » by darealjuice » Wed Jun 1, 2016 7:28 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Chriss reminds me of Marcus Morris.


I get the same Markieff/Marcus Morris vibe, except he's a much, much more athletic
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#104 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 1, 2016 7:34 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Chriss reminds me of Marcus Morris.


Why? Marcus isn't a shot blocker or a particularly good 3 pt shooter and is a decent rebounder (or at least was a lot better rebounder in college).
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#105 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Jun 1, 2016 7:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Chriss reminds me of Marcus Morris.


Why? Marcus isn't a shot blocker or a particularly good 3 pt shooter and is a decent rebounder (or at least was a lot better rebounder in college).


Shotblocking aside, it's his style of play mainly, except Chriss plays above of the rim more. But, offensively, he does a lot of what Morris does.

Not to base my evaluation on a highlight vid, but here's a clip:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GbgudjwZ4s[/youtube]
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#106 » by LukasBMW » Wed Jun 1, 2016 9:15 pm

I really think it will come down to attitude & work ethic for him.

He can jump out of the gym and moves at a very fast pace. His footwork isn't bad either. He can run the pick and roll and attack the basket or run the pick and pop since his outside shot isn't bad. The potential to be a dominant modern 4 is sky high.

If he comes in with the right attitude, stays away from drugs, and works hard, I like his chances of making a great impact. Missing a few inches on his height or reach won't kill him. Look at 6'4" Barkley or 5'9" IT.

If he has a love of weed or beer (Morris/Beasley/Kemp) has a **** attitude (Derick Coleman), or has a bad work ethic, then he may never develop fully.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#107 » by Spens1 » Thu Jun 2, 2016 12:41 am

He's good and all that but 3rd by draftexpress? over bender, hield, dunn, murray and brown. Find that a bit hard to believe.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#108 » by jonjames » Thu Jun 2, 2016 1:27 pm

Spens1 wrote:He's good and all that but 3rd by draftexpress? over bender, hield, dunn, murray and brown. Find that a bit hard to believe.



yea i agree, i like chris but thats defintely head scrather, sometimess gms outsmart themselves i.e. anthony bennett
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#109 » by PELICANSFAN » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:52 pm

jonjames wrote:
Spens1 wrote:He's good and all that but 3rd by draftexpress? over bender, hield, dunn, murray and brown. Find that a bit hard to believe.



yea i agree, i like chris but thats defintely head scrather, sometimess gms outsmart themselves i.e. anthony bennett


Who knows? RIght now it is just DX posting a mock draft. Means nothing until selection actually made.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#110 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Jun 2, 2016 4:33 pm

Extremely athletic, very fast 1st step, very upright in his movement/stance, very long neck, good shooter, mediocre handles, lean type of body? think of it, reminds of a taller Wiggins in some aspects! not as good ofc.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#111 » by Ruzious » Thu Jun 2, 2016 6:20 pm

Catchall wrote:Chriss' measurables and athletic testing are very similar to Aaron Gordon. His offensive feel and shooting touch are actually better than Gordon's, but he doesn't have the motor, defensive tenacity and passing that Gordon has. With Chriss the question is whether he'll play harder, do the work to gain strength, make a better effort to rebound and continue to develop ball skills. High-reward prospect with limited risk overall. It's a question of how hard he'll work.

I think the excitement about him is that he's in Gordon's neighborhood in terms of physical ability plus he's got 3 point shooting ability. Gordon with a 3 point shot would be money. Chriss is still awfully raw in terms of fouling issues, passing, and turning the ball over. But he's still 18 years old, so the potential is all there. We just don't know how close he'll get to his potential.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#112 » by Spens1 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:44 am

PELICANSFAN wrote:
jonjames wrote:
Spens1 wrote:He's good and all that but 3rd by draftexpress? over bender, hield, dunn, murray and brown. Find that a bit hard to believe.



yea i agree, i like chris but thats defintely head scrather, sometimess gms outsmart themselves i.e. anthony bennett


Who knows? RIght now it is just DX posting a mock draft. Means nothing until selection actually made.


yeah but draftexpress (who are about as accurate as it gets in terms of bigger mock draft sites) had him jump up 5 places out of the blue.

Was he that impressive working out for some team?
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#113 » by RookieStar » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:29 pm

Regarding to that... can agents in anyway "influence" hint hint internet mock drafts to have their guys actually seem a higher pick than usually is? Cuz that's what I'm thinking of Chriss here.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#114 » by cellar-door » Sat Jun 4, 2016 12:08 am

Spens1 wrote:
PELICANSFAN wrote:
jonjames wrote:

yea i agree, i like chris but thats defintely head scrather, sometimess gms outsmart themselves i.e. anthony bennett


Who knows? RIght now it is just DX posting a mock draft. Means nothing until selection actually made.


yeah but draftexpress (who are about as accurate as it gets in terms of bigger mock draft sites) had him jump up 5 places out of the blue.

Was he that impressive working out for some team?

Would have to guess it means they heard something that made them think the Celtics liked him a lot since he didn't make a move in the rankings.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#115 » by Spens1 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:12 am

cellar-door wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
PELICANSFAN wrote:
Who knows? RIght now it is just DX posting a mock draft. Means nothing until selection actually made.


yeah but draftexpress (who are about as accurate as it gets in terms of bigger mock draft sites) had him jump up 5 places out of the blue.

Was he that impressive working out for some team?

Would have to guess it means they heard something that made them think the Celtics liked him a lot since he didn't make a move in the rankings.


must be then.

If they like him so much they should trade down, he'll be there at 8 anyway. (or use the 16th to trade up)
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#116 » by mattao313 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 12:51 am

This guy kinda reminds me of Markeiff Morris on offense but this just my impression off of highlights on youtube.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#117 » by RollingWave » Sun Jun 5, 2016 6:48 am

So explain to me how he's different from Derrick Williams?

Not saying that he is, but there's a lot of similarity no?
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#118 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 8:14 pm

Isn't Derrick Williams like 6'8 he's a legit tweener that couldnt find a position in the NBA.
I don't remember much of him in college but other than athleticism I don't see much the same
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#119 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jun 5, 2016 8:26 pm

RollingWave wrote:So explain to me how he's different from Derrick Williams? Not saying that he is, but there's a lot of similarity no?

Only in a very general/superficial sense. Chriss is more explosive and looks to have better range and a purer stroke, and he wasn't a super stand-out statistically like D Will was his soph year at Arizona. Chriss is skinnier, too, plays more agile and less powerful. He's an upside guy, though, whom you're hoping will build on what he already has and become more dominant than he's yet been.

I think of D Will, on the other hand, as one of the great small-sample-size lessons of the last decade: he didn't develop badly or anything (or fail because of a bad work ethic or whatever), he was just overrated as a prospect because he shot the ball absurdly well over 30-some games his soph year at Arizona. Shot like 57% on 3s (!) and 60% from the field that year--good for a ridiculous 70% TS on pretty big volume--and he had monstrously good advanced stats as a result. People looked at him like, 'he's crazy efficient and he's got NBA strength and good hops--this guy's amazing!' But he really just had a crazy hot streak going for most of that year and was more like a 50/34/70 shooter as a shooting prospect (i.e. decent but nothing to get excited about). When he got to the NBA he didn't fail or suck, he just didn't have any special skills or abilities that would make him stand out--he had pretty good athleticism and strength and some serviceable perimeter skills. But most guys in the NBA are really good, so he's been a sort of whatever NBA player: decent production, respectable efficiency, enough to stick in rotations but not be more. Interesting prospect to have followed.
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Re: Marquese Chriss 

Post#120 » by eathb_au » Mon Jun 6, 2016 12:59 pm

Spens1 wrote:
PELICANSFAN wrote:
jonjames wrote:

yea i agree, i like chris but thats defintely head scrather, sometimess gms outsmart themselves i.e. anthony bennett


Who knows? RIght now it is just DX posting a mock draft. Means nothing until selection actually made.


yeah but draftexpress (who are about as accurate as it gets in terms of bigger mock draft sites) had him jump up 5 places out of the blue.

Was he that impressive working out for some team?


DX and NBADraft usually put a random prospect to gain viewers and then they drop them down again.

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