"WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2

Post #1881 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:10 am

IMO, Dunn is the BPA at #3. The trick becomes how we make him fit.

ddb · Post #1882 » by **ddb** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:50 am

Shamrock wrote:Pretty impressive shooting for Hield

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-ajHhjnPg[/youtube]

This is my guy at #3. Superstar. He is gonna be 1 of 2 or 3 guys we look at from this draft class as the head of the class. Simmons, Hield, Dunn

Afam · Post #1883 » by **Afam** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:04 am

I haven't really watched Buddy Hield play , but I don't think he is going to be a superstar . More like an All Star. They're only three superstars in the NBA. Lebron James, Steph Curry and maybe Kevin Durant.

OFWGKTA · Post #1884 » by **OFWGKTA** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:05 am

Does Hield have a speech impediment?

ddb · Post #1885 » by **ddb** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:09 am

OFWGKTA wrote:Does Hield have a speech impediment?

No but he has an accent.

OFWGKTA · Post #1886 » by **OFWGKTA** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:12 am

Idk he speaks clearly at times, but then at others his words are all jumbled together.

skywalker33 · Post #1887 » by **skywalker33** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:31 am

Leprechaun18 wrote:Look this mock has Poeltl going 7. His stock is rising after his workout. It will continue to rise.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2642823-2016-nba-mock-draft-predictions-pro-comparisons-for-elite-frontcourt-prospects

For the Nuggets, one of the worst mocks I have seen :evil:

Bill Lumbergh · Post #1888 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:36 am

ddb wrote:
Shamrock wrote:Pretty impressive shooting for Hield

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-ajHhjnPg[/youtube]

This is my guy at #3. Superstar. He is gonna be 1 of 2 or 3 guys we look at from this draft class as the head of the class. Simmons, Hield, Dunn

I agree. Simmons obviously won't be available, so I want Hield or Dunn, and put a gun to my head, I'd pick Hield of the two, but will be happy with either.

Murta · Post #1889 » by **Murta** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 9:47 am

Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Philadelphia: "We're gritty! We love defense! And effort!" <continually dismisses contributions made by Nerlens Noel and Andre Iguodala>

https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/737679787452469249
wow is Ingram skinny

Post #1890 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 12:27 pm

Murta wrote:
Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Philadelphia: "We're gritty! We love defense! And effort!" <continually dismisses contributions made by Nerlens Noel and Andre Iguodala>

https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/737679787452469249
wow is Ingram skinny

Ingram has the worst chicken legs I've ever seen. I honestly don't think he'll be able to put on and hold the weight needed to thrive in the NBA.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #1891 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:39 pm

I'm really warming up to another posters idea about trying to package Smart with the 16th pick to move up into the top 8 and catch a good prospect that drops. All the while using the 3rd pick to trade for an established player or keep it and pick Dunn. Who seems to be the type of all around back court player DA covets. A two way player whose a true pg with size. lots of people say Smart is still going to be a player. I believe that true. But if he has another 25% 3pt year next year. His value is just about decimated and he wouldn't be able to fetch even the 15th pick next year by himself. I'm sure the Celtics are quietly wondering wtf happened to his shot this year. It was half past lousy.

Banks2Pierce · Post #1892 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:41 pm

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm really warming up to another posters idea about trying to package Smart with the 16th pick to move up into the top 8 and catch a good prospect that drops.

Smart AND the 16th pick? I wouldn't trade Smart for the 4 pick straight up.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #1893 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:53 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm really warming up to another posters idea about trying to package Smart with the 16th pick to move up into the top 8 and catch a good prospect that drops.

Smart AND the 16th pick? I wouldn't trade Smart for the 4 pick straight up.

I have a feeling no one would even consider Smart for the 4th pick let alone the 9th pick. Dude, this game is about putting the ball through a little rim. He's likely quietly disappointing DA's offensive expectations. And now DA's gotta do damage control on the phone lines saying he was just in a slump and parlay BS to other GM's that his shot isn't a disaster, steering the conversation to he's only 22, mechanics not broken, dog died, blah blah blah. DA's got some good skills so I trust he could sorta get something in return. But know this. If he shoots 25-30% again at the same volume of shots he hoisted last year, DA wont be able to save his value period. He'll be cooked as a guy who could be seen as a starter in this league. So if someone is offering the 4th pick or 6th this year, you take it and run. But that's not happening.

Murta · Post #1894 » by **Murta** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:32 pm

Ryan Bernardoni @dangercart
Trying to define draft hits and busts by formula is an interesting problem, but I think it went ok: http://i.imgur.com/nffb6tv.png

Ryan Bernardoni @dangercart
Common "bust" characteristics: old, crazy, unlucky (injured), Euros who never came to the US

Ryan Bernardoni @dangercart
Common "hit" characteristics: young, good performance w/ bad athletic testing, ahead of market (early Euros and high schoolers)

Curmudgeon · Post #1895 » by **Curmudgeon** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 3:51 pm

I'm keeping Smart. The object of the exercise is to win games, not to put up gaudy offensive numbers. I can show you 10 guys on under .500 teams who did that.

Celts17Pride · Post #1896 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 4:44 pm

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm really warming up to another posters idea about trying to package Smart with the 16th pick to move up into the top 8 and catch a good prospect that drops. All the while using the 3rd pick to trade for an established player or keep it and pick Dunn. Who seems to be the type of all around back court player DA covets. A two way player whose a true pg with size. lots of people say Smart is still going to be a player. I believe that true. But if he has another 25% 3pt year next year. His value is just about decimated and he wouldn't be able to fetch even the 15th pick next year by himself. I'm sure the Celtics are quietly wondering wtf happened to his shot this year. It was half past lousy.

That was me. Draft Dunn, Murray or Hield at 3. Trade Smart and 16 to Scato for 8. Draft Chriss at 8. I think it makes the Celtics a better team. Just my opinion.

jfs1000d · Post #1897 » by **jfs1000d** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 5:28 pm

Smart just has to become a league average shooter. He does that, worth weight in gold. He is a better shooter than his numbers IMO.

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Ben-N1ce · Post #1898 » by **Ben-N1ce** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 5:36 pm

jfs1000d wrote:Smart just has to become a league average shooter. He does that, worth weight in gold. He is a better shooter than his numbers IMO.

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Maybe but there are things I thought he would be able to do but have not translated. Getting to the rack and finishing and drawing fouls. If he doesn't improve a decent amount it neuters his ceiling to a good role player.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1899 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 5:38 pm

ddb wrote:
Shamrock wrote:Pretty impressive shooting for Hield

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-ajHhjnPg[/youtube]

This is my guy at #3. Superstar. He is gonna be 1 of 2 or 3 guys we look at from this draft class as the head of the class. Simmons, Hield, Dunn

damn this kid just keeps impressing me

Edug27 · Post #1900 » by **Edug27** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 6:10 pm

My top 2 options would be drafting Hield, or moving the pick in a deal that'll bring in Paul George. Nothing else really intrigues me as much as those 2 options...