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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#121 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:43 pm

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Aussiepiston1 wrote:I don't see why Atlanta would do this unless they believe Milsap can play SF.....
For us, it really has to be a confidence thing that A: Teague will resign B: Okafor will learn how to play defense or Embiid will be healthy
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Or maybe they think a legitimate PG can help our core players grow?

Developing players by surrounding them with D-leaguers and playing them out of position doesn't exactly scream "ideal" to me.


If the goal is just to get a legitimate PG, you don't think you can get one without trading f'n Noel?


Who else is there to trade?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#122 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:44 pm

1. You can find a legitimate PG in free agency or the draft.

2. Teague can walk for nothing at the end of the season.

Not sure how anyone could be in favor of this or even think it's an ok deal. You're essentially giving away a huge young building block piece to take a 10 win team to 30 wins for a year before he bolts.

I'm not gonna be politically correct, there is no logic to this deal whatsoever, and anyone who likes it isn't thinking in the right mindset.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#123 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:45 pm

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Or maybe they think a legitimate PG can help our core players grow?

Developing players by surrounding them with D-leaguers and playing them out of position doesn't exactly scream "ideal" to me.


If the goal is just to get a legitimate PG, you don't think you can get one without trading f'n Noel?


Who else is there to trade?


Covington, about a dozen future 1sts.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#124 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:45 pm

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Or maybe they think a legitimate PG can help our core players grow?

Developing players by surrounding them with D-leaguers and playing them out of position doesn't exactly scream "ideal" to me.


If the goal is just to get a legitimate PG, you don't think you can get one without trading f'n Noel?


Who else is there to trade?


How about tossing a ton of cash Conley's way on a short term (3 year?) deal?
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Post#125 » by ratrac » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:45 pm

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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#126 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:46 pm

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Hinkie wasn't in the business of pissing away assets. There's NO CHANCE he would make this deal when Teague is highly likely to walk away to a contender next summer leaving us with nothing.

Best case is we are able to resign a league average PG for $20-$25M/year, but why wouldn't he get the same from one of the other dozens of teams with a cr@pload of cap room? The whole damn league can pay out a max contract, and many teams will be able to pay out more than one. Why would he stick around going into his age 29 season to babysit a bunch of 20-22 year olds?

The Colangelo's of the world on the other hand don't seem to think 1 or 2 seasons ahead, so for them it's a good deal because we'll be better next year.


Yea because we've saw what Hinkie can do turning assets into actual proven commodities? :roll:


Yeah I'm sure he would suck at it because according to geniuses like you he was obviously trying to make "win now" trades that obviously failed. :crazy:


Never said he failed at it. Simply stating he never made a "win now" trade, so we don't know what type of deal(s) he would have made when the tables were turned. Its a lot easier to give things away then it is to get talent.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#127 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:46 pm

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If the goal is just to get a legitimate PG, you don't think you can get one without trading f'n Noel?


Who else is there to trade?


How about tossing a ton of cash Conley's way on a short term (3 year?) deal?


Conley is not coming here.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#128 » by Hardcore6erFan » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:48 pm

I might do Noel and #26 for Teague, #21, Wolves 2017 1st 1-14 protected until 2020 then turns into 2020 and 2021 2nds

But that's only if Noel can't net a lottery pick, and I think he can.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#129 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:48 pm

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If the goal is just to get a legitimate PG, you don't think you can get one without trading f'n Noel?


Who else is there to trade?


Covington, about a dozen future 1sts.


Yea, Covington and 12 1st rounders. That realistic. :roll:

Considering Nerlens' contract will be up shortly, it could simply be a statement that they wont be paying him and prefer Embiid/Okafor.

Id rather have the Kings pick in 2019, Laker Pick and our own pick than Nerlens
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#130 » by Aussiepiston1 » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:49 pm

Everyone Saw how well Noel progressed with Ish for god sake Imagine if We had a legit PG, It's too early to give up on any of our Bigs IMO. I Like Teague but not for Noel but if it happens obviously the front office has reasons and I will trust the new process hahahaha
I'd prefer to Draft Simmons and trade the #24, and #26 to move up and grab Demetrius Jackson....
Jackson/Stauskas/Simmons/Okafor/Noel with Embiid/Saric/Covington/Grant/Ish off the Bench but who am I LOL
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#131 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:49 pm

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Who else is there to trade?


How about tossing a ton of cash Conley's way on a short term (3 year?) deal?


Conley is not coming here.


So Conley won't come here but if we get Teague he'll stay here?
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Post#132 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:49 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
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Who else is there to trade?


Covington, about a dozen future 1sts.


Yea, Covington and 12 1st rounders. That realistic. :roll:

Considering Nerlens' contract will be up shortly, it could simply be a statement that they wont be paying him and prefer Embiid/Okafor.

Id rather have the Kings pick in 2019, Laker Pick and our own pick than Nerlens


Then you trade him for a better return. You don't think Covington could get you a legitimate placeholder PG?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#133 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:50 pm

Aussiepiston1 wrote:Everyone Saw how well Noel progressed with Ish for god sake Imagine if We had a legit PG, It's too early to give up on any of our Bigs IMO. I Like Teague but not for Noel but if it happens obviously the front office has reasons and I will trust the new process hahahaha
I'd prefer to Draft Simmons and trade the #24, and #26 to move up and grab Demetrius Jackson....
Jackson/Stauskas/Simmons/Okafor/Noel with Embiid/Saric/Covington/Grant/Ish off the Bench but who am I LOL


Obviously not someone with the last name Colangelo.
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Post#134 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:51 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
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Who else is there to trade?


How about tossing a ton of cash Conley's way on a short term (3 year?) deal?


Conley is not coming here.


Why such certainty? Conley has never made 10 million a year. I'm not sure what the Sixers cap situation is, but I'd like to think they have a lot of money to spend. If they offered him big money per year, then I'd expect him to listen.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#135 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:51 pm

BullyKing wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:
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Covington, about a dozen future 1sts.


Yea, Covington and 12 1st rounders. That realistic. :roll:

Considering Nerlens' contract will be up shortly, it could simply be a statement that they wont be paying him and prefer Embiid/Okafor.

Id rather have the Kings pick in 2019, Laker Pick and our own pick than Nerlens


Then you trade him for a better return. You don't think Covington could get you a legitimate placeholder PG?


Covington might get you Ish Smith. I highly doubt he gets you a Jeff Teague/Jrue Holiday/Kyle Lowry
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Post#136 » by ratrac » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:52 pm

On the positive side, this would outrule the outlandish scenario where we would pick Kris Dunn with the first pick.
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Post#137 » by SelfishPlayer » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:52 pm

Don't forget that Bryan Colangelo is a mediocre at best GM.
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Post#138 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:53 pm

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Yea, Covington and 12 1st rounders. That realistic. :roll:

Considering Nerlens' contract will be up shortly, it could simply be a statement that they wont be paying him and prefer Embiid/Okafor.

Id rather have the Kings pick in 2019, Laker Pick and our own pick than Nerlens


Then you trade him for a better return. You don't think Covington could get you a legitimate placeholder PG?


Covington might get you Ish Smith. I highly doubt he gets you a Jeff Teague/Jrue Holiday/Kyle Lowry


Yeah, you're just an idiot if you think Covington can only get Ish Smith. And, spoiler alert, we don't someone of the caliber of Teague/Holiday/Lowry.
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Post#139 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:53 pm

ratrac wrote:On the positive side, this would outrule the outlandish scenario where we would pick Kris Dunn with the first pick.


Oh yeah, watch him.
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Post#140 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 2, 2016 11:54 pm

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How about tossing a ton of cash Conley's way on a short term (3 year?) deal?


Conley is not coming here.


Why such certainty? Conley has never made 10 million a year. I'm not sure what the Sixers cap situation is, but I'd like to think they have a lot of money to spend. If they offered him big money per year, then I'd expect him to listen.


I just think Conley will go to a more win now situation. Spurs are rumored to be heavily interested and I'm sure Memphis will be trying to get him back. Id be fine with offering, but I don't think we are a FA destination right now outside of someone looking for a platform to play a bigger role and make a name for themselves.
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