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"WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2

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Re: "WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2 

Post#1921 » by radcot » Fri Jun 3, 2016 12:22 pm

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:
Leprechaun18 wrote:Here is a link to Brian Scalabrine on some NBA topics including the draft : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-podcast-with-woj--brian-scalabrine-145212732.html.


Care to post The bullet points?


Interview is focused on Scal's career. Has some interesting things to say about his college days, time with the Nets, C's, Bulls, and G.S. I started skimming about half way through. Didn't hear anything about the draft. One point that I thought was interesting was that Scal disliked the "Scalabrine" chants while he was in Boston (thought they were disrespectful to the starters as well as himself), but he "embraced" the chants when he was with Chicago and now wishes he had done so with Boston.
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Post#1922 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:33 pm

Chad Ford's latest Mock - 6/3/2016

Phil - Simmons
LA - Ingram
Bos - Dunn
Pho - Chriss
Min - Murray
NO - Bender
Den - Brown
Sac - Hield
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Post#1923 » by 2Mas » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:18 pm

ThePigeon wrote:Smart reminds me of a smaller Rodman. He brings 100% effort and very good defense (4 positions - pg to pf) and influences the game without scoring.

He needs to cut his number of shots until he fixes his shot.

I would trade him only for an established star - George or Butler.

Thank youuuu. The Rodman comparison is a little weird, but i'm here for it. I see the point.

My issue with Smart is that if you cna't shoot, then stop shooting. It's okay that you're not a 40% shooter, but then WTF are you taking 4 3's a game at a 25% clip? Attack the rim. Shot 78% at the FT line. Get your big ass down there. He's strong as a bull, yet flops like a maniac (some of the worst flops i've ever seen).

Just be who you are man. You're not this skinny little pg trekking around chucking 3's. Get the mid range going, get to the ft line, get someone on your hip. Use your strengths.
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Post#1924 » by 2Mas » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:37 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Chad Ford's latest Mock - 6/3/2016

Phil - Simmons
LA - Ingram
Bos - Dunn
Pho - Chriss
Min - Murray
NO - Bender
Den - Brown
Sac - Hield

Is there any chance in hell Chriss really goes 4? I get that he has a ton of upside, but I don't the Suns are in a position to be very risky. If they hit here, they can have a real good core going forward. Think they take Brown who worst is an athletic lock-down 3 man.

Benders now 6th? lol GTFOH. If we don't pick him, Phoenix will no doubt. & If they don't Minny will for sureeeee. Wiggins-Bender-Towns would be sick.
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Post#1925 » by ddb » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:07 pm

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Shamrock wrote:Pretty impressive shooting for Hield

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-ajHhjnPg[/youtube]

This is my guy at #3. Superstar. He is gonna be 1 of 2 or 3 guys we look at from this draft class as the head of the class. Simmons, Hield, Dunn

damn this kid just keeps impressing me


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Post#1926 » by MrTwister » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:26 pm

Bender is coming in USA next Sunday.Will stay for workouts and some interviews with teams interested, may also attend the draft.
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Post#1927 » by Gant » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:35 pm

Chad Ford's got a new mock out. He has Dunn 3rd, followed by Chriss 4, Murray 5, Bender 6, Brown 7, and Hield 8th.

Dejounte Murray is all the way up to 10.

Baldwin's now in the lottery at 13.

Zizic moves up to 16, followed by Zubac at 17. Maker is up to 19 and Sabonis down to 20.

Diallo is at 23.
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Post#1928 » by 165bows » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:15 pm

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Post#1929 » by CavemanDoctor » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:24 pm

165bows wrote:Dean D. with a big board.

https://deanondraft.com/category/big-boards/


Bender at 1.

Buddy at 21.
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Post#1930 » by threrf23 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:51 pm

A good piece on Poeltl:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/sports/ncaabasketball/jakob-poeltls-nba-dreams-began-in-an-unlikely-place-austria.html

And another:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/how-utah-landed-fast-rising-nba-prospect-jakob-poeltl-212544604.html

Since basketball is an afterthought in soccer-crazed Austria, Poeltl could only watch college or NBA games via unreliable Internet streams in the wee hours of the morning. He and his mom researched Utah and the other schools by studying articles about their rosters and playing style via the Internet, pulling up league standings and rankings and requesting game film from the coaches.

"They were so well prepared and they had done their research regarding questions they needed to have answered," Hill said. "Sometimes Jakob's mom would even ask questions that she knew the answers to before she asked them. It was kind of a test as to whether or not you were going to tell them the truth."
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Post#1931 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:39 pm

CavemanDoctor wrote:
165bows wrote:Dean D. with a big board.

https://deanondraft.com/category/big-boards/


Bender at 1.

Buddy at 21.

Will be fun to see some Hield fans' reactions in here if we pass on him with 3 AND 16.
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Post#1932 » by lon3lytoaster » Fri Jun 3, 2016 10:10 pm

Marquees Chriss' favorite player is Rudy Gay and he quote, tries to play "like him."

Terrifying.
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Post#1933 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jun 3, 2016 10:33 pm

Ante Zizic is going straight to NBA, no draft-and-stash, per David Pick.
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Post#1934 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:26 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Ante Zizic is going straight to NBA, no draft-and-stash, per David Pick.


And Zizic is good enough to do it.
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Post#1935 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 4, 2016 12:51 am

Steve Kyler was tweeting out earlier today that Danny is very high on Chriss and Brown. Also tweeted out that someone who recently went to scout Bender did not have many good things to say.

I'm starting to get the impression that the person who told Kyler Ainge is high on Chriss and Brown is the same person who wasn't impressed with Bender.
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Post#1936 » by Leprechaun18 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:02 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Steve Kyler was tweeting out earlier today that Danny is very high on Chriss and Brown. Also tweeted out that someone who recently went to scout Bender did not have many good things to say.

I'm starting to get the impression that the person who told Kyler Ainge is high on Chriss and Brown is the same person who wasn't impressed with Bender.


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Post#1937 » by cellar-door » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:03 am

2Mas wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Chad Ford's latest Mock - 6/3/2016

Phil - Simmons
LA - Ingram
Bos - Dunn
Pho - Chriss
Min - Murray
NO - Bender
Den - Brown
Sac - Hield

Is there any chance in hell Chriss really goes 4? I get that he has a ton of upside, but I don't the Suns are in a position to be very risky. If they hit here, they can have a real good core going forward. Think they take Brown who worst is an athletic lock-down 3 man.

Benders now 6th? lol GTFOH. If we don't pick him, Phoenix will no doubt. & If they don't Minny will for sureeeee. Wiggins-Bender-Towns would be sick.

If anything I could see the Suns making the Chriss pick. They're in the west, so they have no shot to compete for 2-4 years. That might encourage them to take the guy with the highest ceiling, which might be Chriss in that situation, even if he seems much less likely to actually reach his ceiling.
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Post#1938 » by BakersDozen » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:10 am

CavemanDoctor wrote:
165bows wrote:Dean D. with a big board.

https://deanondraft.com/category/big-boards/


Bender at 1.

Buddy at 21.


I dont know whats crazier. Someone taking Bender over Simmons/Ingram or Hield falling to 21.


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Post#1939 » by Leprechaun18 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:21 am

BakersDozen wrote:
CavemanDoctor wrote:
165bows wrote:Dean D. with a big board.

https://deanondraft.com/category/big-boards/


Bender at 1.

Buddy at 21.


I dont know whats crazier. Someone taking Bender over Simmons/Ingram or Hield falling to 21.


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I think his Murray, Hield, and Bender ratings are off, but he did produce this https://deanondraft.com/2016/06/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-poeltl/

I like Chriss and Brown, but not in top 5. They are incomplete players atm. Brown has athletic ability. IMO Brown is like RHJ. Brown and RHJ both need to improve their jumper and handle. Brown and RHJ both play defense. RHJ was more accomplished defensive player, but I think Browns jumper is a little better. Chriss is just more of a put back guy. He can shoot, but his defense is average and his rebounding poor. If he had a handle he could be a three.

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Post#1940 » by jfs1000d » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:39 am

I am
Not sure how anyone can rank bender off YouTube videos. I've seen everyone of the other prospects, but bender has barely played.


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