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RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11

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Based on this scenario, who should the Magic select?

Poll ended at Tue May 31, 2016 4:04 pm

Domantas Sabonis
5
13%
Jakob Poeltl
14
35%
Furkan Korkmaz
0
No votes
Skal Labissiere
11
28%
Malik Beasley
2
5%
Henry Ellenson
3
8%
Timothe Luwawu
0
No votes
Other (Please specify in thread)
0
No votes
Wade Baldwin
0
No votes
Thon Maker
5
13%
 
Total votes: 40

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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#61 » by drsd » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:39 am

seeingstars wrote:We just drafted Poltel, whats wrong with you people?? :'(


Pöltl would shore up bench depth. That's fine. But there are starter-quality players still on the board. Pöltl was not BPA by any measure.


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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#62 » by Patrick1978 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:29 am

drsd wrote:
seeingstars wrote:We just drafted Poltel, whats wrong with you people?? :'(


Pöltl would shore up bench depth. That's fine. But there are starter-quality players still on the board. Pöltl was not BPA by any measure.


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Really?
Who is the BPA ?
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#63 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:36 am

Patrick1978 wrote:
drsd wrote:
seeingstars wrote:We just drafted Poltel, whats wrong with you people?? :'(


Pöltl would shore up bench depth. That's fine. But there are starter-quality players still on the board. Pöltl was not BPA by any measure.


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Really?
Who is the BPA ?


its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#64 » by Patrick1978 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:20 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
drsd wrote:
Pöltl would shore up bench depth. That's fine. But there are starter-quality players still on the board. Pöltl was not BPA by any measure.


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Really?
Who is the BPA ?


its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill

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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#65 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:46 pm

Patrick1978 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:Really?
Who is the BPA ?


its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill

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i'll intellectually debate, but i only understand english and bad english.

Poetl is not a good defender, serviceable but not good. Vuc has a better all around offensive game and better rebounder, Poetl more athletic.

Attempting only a half dozen shots from any significant distance away the rim over the last two years, Poeltl is not a particularly dangerous weapon outside the paint at this stage. He shows the ability to make sound decisions with the ball on short rolls to the rim and reads in hand off situations, but he isn't a very versatile offensive player. Outside of his ability to score the ball, Poeltl does a solid, but not spectacular job of crashing the boards. His instincts and motor are solid, but he lacks the tremendous length and athleticism common among the game's top rebounders.

He lacks a degree of strength and toughness on the block, but stays in good position and is quite a bit more disciplined not leaving his feet and avoiding foul trouble than many college big men. Though Poeltl may not grow into the type of player that carries a team defensively, he could certainly hold his own assuming his frame improves, without taking a toll on his foot speed.


tell me how that is very much different than Vuc?
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#66 » by VFX » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:17 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
drsd wrote:
Pöltl would shore up bench depth. That's fine. But there are starter-quality players still on the board. Pöltl was not BPA by any measure.


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Really?
Who is the BPA ?


its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill


Ok, so who on the list then.
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#67 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 3, 2016 9:03 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:Really?
Who is the BPA ?


its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill


Ok, so who on the list then.


kind of hard to guess who is BPA at 11 when the draft hasnt happened
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Post#68 » by ralphie9898 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:23 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
its not Poetl. He is basically a younger version of Vuc, with less skill

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i'll intellectually debate, but i only understand english and bad english.

Poetl is not a good defender, serviceable but not good. Vuc has a better all around offensive game and better rebounder, Poetl more athletic.

Attempting only a half dozen shots from any significant distance away the rim over the last two years, Poeltl is not a particularly dangerous weapon outside the paint at this stage. He shows the ability to make sound decisions with the ball on short rolls to the rim and reads in hand off situations, but he isn't a very versatile offensive player. Outside of his ability to score the ball, Poeltl does a solid, but not spectacular job of crashing the boards. His instincts and motor are solid, but he lacks the tremendous length and athleticism common among the game's top rebounders.

He lacks a degree of strength and toughness on the block, but stays in good position and is quite a bit more disciplined not leaving his feet and avoiding foul trouble than many college big men. Though Poeltl may not grow into the type of player that carries a team defensively, he could certainly hold his own assuming his frame improves, without taking a toll on his foot speed.


tell me how that is very much different than Vuc?

Poeltl is actually a good defender and rebounder. He is not that comparable to Vuc. He held his own against Towns and others in recent workouts and I have seen him go higher than 11 in plenty of mocks. I think this notion of BPA is somewhat false. It is often just an opinion and you never know until that player actually plays in the NBA. at the time of the draft you can do you best to predict that but in the end there are usually a couple if not more players that are fairly evenly graded. I think Poeltl would be a good pick at 11 if he is there.
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#69 » by tiderulz » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:30 pm

ralphie9898 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:Esti nebun domnule :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


i'll intellectually debate, but i only understand english and bad english.

Poetl is not a good defender, serviceable but not good. Vuc has a better all around offensive game and better rebounder, Poetl more athletic.

Attempting only a half dozen shots from any significant distance away the rim over the last two years, Poeltl is not a particularly dangerous weapon outside the paint at this stage. He shows the ability to make sound decisions with the ball on short rolls to the rim and reads in hand off situations, but he isn't a very versatile offensive player. Outside of his ability to score the ball, Poeltl does a solid, but not spectacular job of crashing the boards. His instincts and motor are solid, but he lacks the tremendous length and athleticism common among the game's top rebounders.

He lacks a degree of strength and toughness on the block, but stays in good position and is quite a bit more disciplined not leaving his feet and avoiding foul trouble than many college big men. Though Poeltl may not grow into the type of player that carries a team defensively, he could certainly hold his own assuming his frame improves, without taking a toll on his foot speed.


tell me how that is very much different than Vuc?

Poeltl is actually a good defender and rebounder. He is not that comparable to Vuc. He held his own against Towns and others in recent workouts and I have seen him go higher than 11 in plenty of mocks. I think this notion of BPA is somewhat false. It is often just an opinion and you never know until that player actually plays in the NBA. at the time of the draft you can do you best to predict that but in the end there are usually a couple if not more players that are fairly evenly graded. I think Poeltl would be a good pick at 11 if he is there.


well, every scout says that he isnt a good team defender, help defender. Maybe he holds his own on defense, but so can Vuc. and i still say, if you are drafting Poetl, we must be moving Vuc because they are too much a duplication of skills and player.
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#70 » by ralphie9898 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:39 pm

tiderulz wrote:
ralphie9898 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
i'll intellectually debate, but i only understand english and bad english.

Poetl is not a good defender, serviceable but not good. Vuc has a better all around offensive game and better rebounder, Poetl more athletic.



tell me how that is very much different than Vuc?

Poeltl is actually a good defender and rebounder. He is not that comparable to Vuc. He held his own against Towns and others in recent workouts and I have seen him go higher than 11 in plenty of mocks. I think this notion of BPA is somewhat false. It is often just an opinion and you never know until that player actually plays in the NBA. at the time of the draft you can do you best to predict that but in the end there are usually a couple if not more players that are fairly evenly graded. I think Poeltl would be a good pick at 11 if he is there.


well, every scout says that he isnt a good team defender, help defender. Maybe he holds his own on defense, but so can Vuc. and i still say, if you are drafting Poetl, we must be moving Vuc because they are too much a duplication of skills and player.

Uh not every scout a sI have read plenty who have said he is. He is more athletic than Vuc and is a much better defender. Vuc has better strength(though Poeltl has shown recently in workouts that he can hold his own in workouts with stronger players like Towns) but Vuc can't move as well as Poeltl can especially laterally
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Re: RealGM 2016 Fan Forum Mock Draft - ORL #11 

Post#71 » by j-ragg » Sat Jun 4, 2016 2:51 pm

We have other needs than a soft center, we already have that.


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