Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent

[spikeslovechild]

teague for noel? HELL NO!

schröder + wolves pick for noel. ok, i would do it.

I'd consider it.

Personally, I would prefer to use Noel as the centerpiece of a package for someone like Butler. Or Middleton. Or Bledsoe. Or Russell.

I'd also be interested in Dunn or Murray whomever scouts think will be the top PG. We're better off keeping him then trading him for Teague.

[ankle420breaker]

Agreed. Add Oladipo to that list.

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[mksp]

Hield is not overrated when spotting up for open 3's. He'll be getting at least 5-7 open looks a night between Simmons and Jah.

You don't trade Nerlens Noel for a skill you can get from Hollis Thompson.

You don't trade Nerlens Noel for a one-dimensional 22-year old when that one dimension is something that is available for far less capital.

Yes, you trade Nerlens Noel for a kid who shot 45% from 3 in college and 88% from the free throw line. Do you not understand that this guy will get 5-7 open looks a game with Okafor and Simmons on the floor?

Let's say you run a 3ball lineup of Okafor/Saric/Simmons/Hield/Stauskas? You got 2 guys who will need to be doubled and 3 guys who can hit an open 3.

Let's say you run a lineup of Embiid/Saric/Simmons/Hield/Stauskas?

If we can trade Noel straight up for Hield, plus draft wisely next year, we'd be able to space the floor and dominate the paint

You don't man. You just don't. That's awful value. I don't know what to tell you.

Hollis Thompson shoots 39.1% from 3 in the NBA. That's his only NBA skill. It's not worth Nerlens Noel.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

It's funny how some people refuse to believe that Okafor can't improve his game. Bigs take some time to develop. Okafor is already way ahead of the curve in my opinion. His defense and rebounding will catch up.

he would have to make historic improvements

Wow, that is quite the exaggeration, again a classic example of undervaluing Okafor, yet you probably expect a top three pick in return for him.

[phiphan]

It's funny how some people refuse to believe that Okafor can't improve his game. Bigs take some time to develop. Okafor is already way ahead of the curve in my opinion. His defense and rebounding will catch up.

he would have to make historic improvements

Wow, that is quite the exaggeration, again a classic example of undervaluing Okafor, yet you probably expect a top three pick in return for him.

There's a sucker born every minute

[sixers23]

It's funny how some people refuse to believe that Okafor can't improve his game. Bigs take some time to develop. Okafor is already way ahead of the curve in my opinion. His defense and rebounding will catch up.

he would have to make historic improvements

Wow, that is quite the exaggeration, again a classic example of undervaluing Okafor, yet you probably expect a top three pick in return for him.

i think okafor brings nothing to a winning team unless hes happy playing 15 minutes a game

[Sixercise]

For those who think this is remotely close to an ok possible deal: How the hell are you gonna convince teague to sign anything less than the max extension for a team coming off a 10-win season, even if that team wins the lottery?? HOW??

Hinkie wouldnt even entertain letting this type of rumor go this far.

[76ciology]

For those who think this is remotely close to an ok possible deal: How the hell are you gonna convince teague to sign anything less than the max extension for a team coming off a 10-win season, even if that team wins the lottery?? HOW??

Hinkie wouldnt even entertain letting this type of rumor go this far.

We'll show him how lucky he is to sign with that amount by comparing it with RoCo's contract.

[Sixersftw]

Hinkie wouldnt even entertain letting this type of rumor go this far.

There were no rumors with Hinkie. There's absolutely no value to letting everyone in the league know you're discussing a deal unless it's something ridiculously lopsided in your favor. I just wish this guy would control the flow of information more.

[tk76]

I guess by floating bad rumors it gives the front office some cover when an actual deal is made. People will think: "Well at least it is a lot better than the proposed Teague trade."

So floating a bad trade rumor is a PR way of managing expectations.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

he would have to make historic improvements

Wow, that is quite the exaggeration, again a classic example of undervaluing Okafor, yet you probably expect a top three pick in return for him.

i think okafor brings nothing to a winning team unless hes happy playing 15 minutes a game

Oh well, I totally respect your opinion, even if I vehemently disagree with it. Guy was a top three pick, you make him sound like Anthony Bennett.

[sixers23]

Wow, that is quite the exaggeration, again a classic example of undervaluing Okafor, yet you probably expect a top three pick in return for him.

i think okafor brings nothing to a winning team unless hes happy playing 15 minutes a game

Oh well, I totally respect your opinion, even if I vehemently disagree with it. Guy was a top three pick, you make him sound like Anthony Bennett.

didnt say he is anthony bennett but he is one of those players you cant win with. Even if he becomes a star in stats he will be a carmelo type you cant build a winner around

[Chamberlainship]

Hinkie was certainly divisive.

Here are poll results from Philly.com (the local paper- whose writers were rabidly anti-Hinkie.)

A small majority were pro Hinkie at the time of his departure (56%.) 62% were against the Colangeo Hire.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/poll/inquirer/374953401.html

Poll
Is Sam Hinkie’s departure good for the 76ers?
Yes 1000 (43.8%)
No 1281 (56.2%)

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/poll/inquirer/375145621.html

Poll
Is Bryan Colangelo the right choice to be the 76ers’ general manager?
Yes 327 (37.7%)
No 541 (62.3%)

I don't put a lot of stock in Philly.com polls. I think a lot of people who enjoy laughing at the mess the Sixers have become vote in them. I'm not saying Hinkie didn't have his fans, but the people I talk too seemed to mostly see his approach as bad for the game and the franchise. (I may have led the witnesses a little though).

I'm sure as Colangelo makes mistakes people are going to think "what could have been if Sam were still here." But that's just an appeal to the unknown. He certainly didn't show much skill in team-building while he was here.

[Chamberlainship]

For those who think this is remotely close to an ok possible deal: How the hell are you gonna convince teague to sign anything less than the max extension for a team coming off a 10-win season, even if that team wins the lottery?? HOW??

Hinkie wouldnt even entertain letting this type of rumor go this far.

Does Okafor for Schroder really seem signature-worthy when we're rumored to be evaluating trading Noel+ for Teague?

But, I am flattered nonetheless. Thanks for the mentions.

[Ericb5]

For those who think this is remotely close to an ok possible deal: How the hell are you gonna convince teague to sign anything less than the max extension for a team coming off a 10-win season, even if that team wins the lottery?? HOW??

Hinkie wouldnt even entertain letting this type of rumor go this far.

I only do the deal if he extends as a condition of the deal. No way would I deal Noel for him and just hope that he resigns in the offseason. That would be reckless and not worth the risk.


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[SelfishPlayer]

Yes, you trade Nerlens Noel for a kid who shot 45% from 3 in college and 88% from the free throw line. Do you not understand that this guy will get 5-7 open looks a game with Okafor and Simmons on the floor?

Let's say you run a 3ball lineup of Okafor/Saric/Simmons/Hield/Stauskas? You got 2 guys who will need to be doubled and 3 guys who can hit an open 3.

Let's say you run a lineup of Embiid/Saric/Simmons/Hield/Stauskas?

If we can trade Noel straight up for Hield, plus draft wisely next year, we'd be able to space the floor and dominate the paint

Nik Stauskas shot 44% from three in college and 83% at the FT line.

[rzzzzz]

looking at Derek's bar graph, it seems almost half of NBA point guards have their best season AFTER they turn 27. when you throw in injuries, and other attrition, that's pretty remarkable.

[76ers]

This is such a BC move, makes me terrified for what's to possibly come in the future. Hopefully this was just preliminary discussions and ends at that.

[dbodner]

I guess by floating bad rumors it gives the front office some cover when an actual deal is made. People will think: "Well at least it is a lot better than the proposed Teague trade."

So floating a bad trade rumor is a PR way of managing expectations.

don't discount the possibility that the agent (Teague and Noel share an agency), especially since both Teague and Noel are heading into the final year of their deals and don't have 100% certainty in their role.

[dbodner]

looking at Derek's bar graph, it seems almost half of NBA point guards have their best season AFTER they turn 27. when you throw in injuries, and other attrition, that's pretty remarkable. not the point he's trying to make, but when you dig into stats with varying motivation, all sorts of different angles can pop out.

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~66% of point guards have their best season at 27 or younger, according to the graph. (6% at 23, 12% at 24, 16% at 25, 19% at 26, 13% at 27)