2016 draft thread: Part 2

[andyhop]

The big difference is that Dunn is very good at attacking the rim and has some natural uncanny abilities finishing near the basket. He's not a bad shooter either. I like a lot of parts in Rubio's game, it's just that the flaws are way too disruptive and inconsistent. There has to be a growing doubt for Wolves FO and I think it's time for that doubt to manifest.

Dunn had the basically the same offensive efficiency in the Big East as Rubio did in the NBA last year

[minimus]

The biggest concern regarding Dunn are screws in his shoulder. I had very serious shoulder injury followed by surgery and I know that it can be real limitation when you speak about playing aggressively. And Dunn is not a shooter he is scorer who needs to put pressure on the opponent defense.

[Klomp]

The biggest concern regarding Dunn are screws in his shoulder. I had very serious shoulder injury followed by surgery and I know that it can be real limitation when you speak about playing aggressively. And Dunn is not a shooter he is scorer who needs to put pressure on the opponent defense.

He's had two years of tape to show the screws haven't limited his aggressiveness

[jpatrick]

I just don't see Rubio and Dunn working together on the court. Even if Dunn becomes a Wade-like penetrating SG, he needs a pure shooter next to him in the backcourt, just like Wade needs.

I'm not sure if Rubio is traded before this season, during, or after, but no way he's here long term if Dunn is the pick. Also, I can't see Dunn's camp pushing for him to come to MN unless they've been given some back channel indication that he'd be given every opportunity to be the long term PG here.

[jpatrick]

Playing him and Rubio together would almost be the equivalent of playing John Wall and Rondo together. It wouldn't make any **** sense.

Except it wouldn't be.

Neither Rondo or Wall ever shot better than 32.5% from 3-point range in college. Dunn finished above 35% each of the last two seasons, including 37.2% this past season.

Wall only played one year of college and Rondo two. Each was as good if not better at shooting threes in their freshman and sophomore years than Dunn was during his. Could Dunn improve significantly like Lowry has? Yes, but it's a huge gamble if you're counting on that.

[Klomp]

I just don't see Rubio and Dunn working together on the court. Even if Dunn becomes a Wade-like penetrating SG, he needs a pure shooter next to him in the backcourt, just like Wade needs.

And yet Wade led a 48-win team with a PG shooting 31.2% from 3-point range next to him....boy, that really held them back.

[Klomp]

Could Dunn improve significantly like Lowry has? Yes, but it's a huge gamble if you're counting on that.

Dunn is already at 37%, he doesn't need to improve significantly.

[Dan's with the Wolves]

With all the various preferences for different prospects at 5 it will be very telling to see where Thibideau/Layden go with the pick.

Questions
Can Hield play D to Thib's standards?
Ditto for Murray?
Can Dunn limit his turnovers and improve his jumper?
Is Bender the real deal?
Can Brown hit the three consistently?
Are there any good trade offers for the 5th pick?
What are good numbers to extended Bazz and Dieng?

[Maefteda]

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Kris Dunn has a very interesting backstory. I like his mental makeup and it feels like basketball means a whole lot to him, but he still seems grounded.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Could Dunn improve significantly like Lowry has? Yes, but it's a huge gamble if you're counting on that.

Dunn is already at 37%, he doesn't need to improve significantly.

that's in college and after 3 years. I don't find that impressive in the least.

[C.lupus]

Could Dunn improve significantly like Lowry has? Yes, but it's a huge gamble if you're counting on that.

Dunn is already at 37%, he doesn't need to improve significantly.

Disagree. He was 0% from the corner and 25% from the left elbow. He can't just park in one spot in the NBA. He's also pretty bad from mid-range, too, fwiw.

[vagelis]

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Thon Maker seems to be a similar or better version of Porzingis.
He can become a very special player.
Can we trade for him? Dieng and Shabazz for example

[Worm Guts]

If he's the next Porzingis, we should just draft him. To get a mid to late first round pick, I don't we should be giving up both Gorgui and Shabazz.

[vagelis]

His potential is huge. But because of the reason that he didn't play in ncaa he is not something sure. Thats the reason that I do not prefer him as our draft pick.
But I think he deserves a trade for him. If Shabazz and Dieng are too much for him we can try with one of them.
Dieng for Maker. I would do that. What do you think?

[Worm Guts]

Could Dunn improve significantly like Lowry has? Yes, but it's a huge gamble if you're counting on that.

Dunn is already at 37%, he doesn't need to improve significantly.

Disagree. He was 0% from the corner and 25% from the left elbow. He can't just park in one spot in the NBA. He's also pretty bad from mid-range, too, fwiw.

A combined 2 attempts from the corners, I have to think that's a function of the offense.
I'd be interested to see what his spot up percentage is, in the games I watched he seemed to take a decent amount off the dribble which would lead to a lower percentage.
I will say his FT percentage doesn't inspire confidence that he'll be a great shooter in the NBA.

[Worm Guts]

His potential is huge. But because of the reason that he didn't play in ncaa he is not something sure. Thats the reason that I do not prefer him as our draft pick.
But I think he deserves a trade for him. If Shabazz and Dieng are too much for him we can try with one of them.
Dieng for Maker. I would do that. What do you think?

I don't want to take a step back by trading guys who can contribute now for someone who's going to take a couple years to figure it out.
If I really wanted Maker, I'd figure out a way to trade down.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Dieng has still more potential than Maker.

[C.lupus]

Dunn is already at 37%, he doesn't need to improve significantly.

Disagree. He was 0% from the corner and 25% from the left elbow. He can't just park in one spot in the NBA. He's also pretty bad from mid-range, too, fwiw.

A combined 2 attempts from the corners, I have to think that's a function of the offense.
I'd be interested to see what his spot up percentage is, in the games I watched he seemed to take a decent amount off the dribble which would lead to a lower percentage.
I will say his FT percentage doesn't inspire confidence that he'll be a great shooter in the NBA.

Yep, the low number of corner shots is a function of the offense but looking at his overall shot chart doesn't inspire confidence (as you said) that he would make them consistently id given the chance. There's definitely room for significant improvement with his shooting. And his finishing at the rim for that matter.

[Foye]

Nuggets have three picks in the first round. I really don't think there is any way they are letting Maker slip past 19.
He's the perfect high risk high reward guy you are looking for if you have already two picks in your pocket.

What impresses me most about Maker is how smooth he runs for a legit 7'1" dude.

He's gonna be pushed around like Dieng for a couple years, though.

[NewWolvesOrder]

yeah, 47 2pt% as upperclassman in college doesn't really paint a picture of a dominant slasher as some lead you to believe.