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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#561 » by Stanford » Sat Jun 4, 2016 10:59 pm

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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#562 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:02 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:At the end of the day, the whole "treadmill walkers vs. process trusters" thing was just a gen x vs. millennial thing. No one can convince me otherwise.


Angelo cataldi and howard Eskin are gen Xers?

No, they're just notorious contrarian blowhards aligning themselves with Gen X, in this instance.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#563 » by Arsenal » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:03 pm

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Do you put a lot of faith in fan polls on philly.com?

I'm not going to do my own polling, so I kinda have to rely on what I see and hear in the community here in the Philadelphia area. What I heard was a lot of laughter whenever the Sixers were brought up.

if you don't belive me, do you believe the owner of the sixers? Don't you think he has some sort of fan-interest metrics he uses before making decisions about management?

Amazing position? We just finished the worst three years in NBA history. I love the summer time. The sixers always seem to be in an amazing positon in the summer. Fall, Winter, and Spring, not so much.


It's kind of tough to gauge because presumably a lot of the people that Hinkie pissed off probably stopped following the team because of that. Do those people "count"? They probably should. But I don't know how much of them are "anti process" as much as "anti following a team that loses 85% of their games"

Certainly the sponsors and the companies that buy club boxes hated it.

I think it's safe to say he's a fairly polarizing figure. That lottery party had a lot of people at it. The Ricky Podcast has been top 30 or whatever Sports Podcast on iTunes. It's weird that something like that could have gotten more successful while a team was so crappy. I'm not sure if that sort of stuff would be possible if everyone hated the guy, the process etc. It's not just us weirdos on the internet.


you're right that it's tough to gauge. Hinkie has a lot of fans. every time I came to Realgm there was some new poster named Hinkie4evr or something who was calling me a grandpa for doubting the process.

But the lottery party was after he got fired, right? Hinkie's relegation breathed some life back into the franchise. A ton of fans had checked out because of the tanking.

I was pretty jacked to start following the team again once they put Hinkie into the proper role of chief of analytics and coffee. Sad that he couldn't accept that role. Does anyone know what he's doing now?


Are you serious? You're trying to claim that the lottery party was so packed because people were excited that Hinkie was gone? What a joke.

And sure. Hinkie's resignation is what "breathed some life back into the franchise". It had nothing to do with winning the #1 overall pick and the right to draft a franchise talent in Ben Simmons. Something that Hinkie maximized our chances to do.

In fact, Hinkie's moves gave us the BEST CHANCE at the #1 overall pick that any team has ever had under the current lottery rules. But let's just ignore that.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#564 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:12 pm

Kobblehead wrote:This commercial perfectly encapsulates the dynamic between Gen X and Sam Hinkie's approach.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmQvc6tB1o[/youtube]


:roll:

Yep. Hinkie was Thomas Edison.

Are we on the stage now being applauded or are we picking another teenager because we suck?

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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#565 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:15 pm

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It's kind of tough to gauge because presumably a lot of the people that Hinkie pissed off probably stopped following the team because of that. Do those people "count"? They probably should. But I don't know how much of them are "anti process" as much as "anti following a team that loses 85% of their games"

Certainly the sponsors and the companies that buy club boxes hated it.

I think it's safe to say he's a fairly polarizing figure. That lottery party had a lot of people at it. The Ricky Podcast has been top 30 or whatever Sports Podcast on iTunes. It's weird that something like that could have gotten more successful while a team was so crappy. I'm not sure if that sort of stuff would be possible if everyone hated the guy, the process etc. It's not just us weirdos on the internet.


you're right that it's tough to gauge. Hinkie has a lot of fans. every time I came to Realgm there was some new poster named Hinkie4evr or something who was calling me a grandpa for doubting the process.

But the lottery party was after he got fired, right? Hinkie's relegation breathed some life back into the franchise. A ton of fans had checked out because of the tanking.

I was pretty jacked to start following the team again once they put Hinkie into the proper role of chief of analytics and coffee. Sad that he couldn't accept that role. Does anyone know what he's doing now?


Are you serious? You're trying to claim that the lottery party was so packed because people were excited that Hinkie was gone? What a joke.

And sure. Hinkie's resignation is what "breathed some life back into the franchise". It had nothing to do with winning the #1 overall pick and the right to draft a franchise talent in Ben Simmons. Something that Hinkie maximized our chances to do.

In fact, Hinkie's moves gave us the BEST CHANCE at the #1 overall pick that any team has ever had under the current lottery rules. But let's just ignore that.


It was part of it. Certainly there were a lot of Truthers there. It's the #2 Most important day of the year for the process. But I think the reconciliation process the Colangelo began had brought back a lot of people.

What do you guys make of the fact that Brett Brown was probably trying to get Hinkie fired? He certainly seemed happy when Colangelo was brought in. Is Brett Brown gen x?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#566 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:18 pm

Uhhh, the Colangelos were trying to get Brett ousted....

Bro, how closely are you even following this team?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#567 » by CoreyGallagher » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:20 pm

The lottery party is held by Spike Eskin and Michael Levin of Liberty Ballers and the RTRS podcast, it's quite pro-Hinkie.

Also, supposedly when Hinkie re-signed Brett Brown, Jerry Colangelo was quite upset.
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Post#568 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:25 pm

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In fact, Hinkie's moves gave us the BEST CHANCE at the #1 overall pick that any team has ever had under the current lottery rules. But let's just ignore that.


Is that you George Orwell?

I'm not ignoring that fact. It's a central element of the anti-Hinkie argument. His teams BLOW!

getting the 1 pick is merely a means to an end. An end he was never going to reach. That was as painfully obvious as why you should not talk trash to a drunk NBA rookie after a loss in Boston.
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Post#569 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:26 pm

or are we picking another teenager because we suck?


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Post#570 » by Skates » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:29 pm

Seriously Dude, this board and most of the die hard, non-mouth breathing fans were pro-Hinkie and pro-Process. Not everyone agreed with everything he did, but the lotto party was very much an homage to the great (not perfect) things Hinkie did to put us in position to take off towards being a contender in the next few years. BC was our worst nightmare the moment JC was hired, sadly it has come to pass. Hopefully he is better than expected, especially given the riches of assets and clean salary cap he inherited.
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Post#571 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:31 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Uhhh, the Colangelos were trying to get Brett ousted....

Bro, how closely are you even following this team?


Hadn't Brown gone to ownership about Hinkie at some point? Or maybe ownership took Brown's temperature before going to Silver?

I may be wrong about that, but I remember some tension with Brown over the continued tanking.
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Post#572 » by BullyKing » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:33 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Uhhh, the Colangelos were trying to get Brett ousted....

Bro, how closely are you even following this team?


Hadn't Brown gone to ownership about Hinkie at some point? Or maybe ownership took Brown's temperature before going to Silver?


Nope, think you're making that up like 95% of the "facts" on which you base your opinions.
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Post#573 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:35 pm

If Brett didn't have so much equity built up off of league-wide sympathy and didn't have connections to the universal #1 prospect, Pringles would be our head basketball coach right now.

If you think Brett welcomed or was happy about the Colangelos coming in to scheme him out of a job, you're mistaken.
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Post#574 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:43 pm

Kobblehead wrote:If Brett didn't have so much equity built up off of league-wide sympathy and didn't have connections to the universal #1 prospect, Pringles would be our head basketball coach right now.

If you think Brett welcomed or was happy about the Colangelos coming in to scheme him out of a job, you're mistaken.


My guess is Brett, like Collins before him and a lot of head coaches, was trying to exert more influence over personnel. Maybe "get him fired" was too strong, but I'll bet Brett pictured himself moving into the role of Hinkie babysitter. I'm pretty sure he recognized it was time for for one. I wouldn't be surprised if he expressed that to Harris after Hinkie was a no show while his prized player was being featured on TMZ.
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Post#575 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:45 pm

Skates wrote:Seriously Dude, this board and most of the die hard, non-mouth breathing fans were pro-Hinkie and pro-Process. Not everyone agreed with everything he did, but the lotto party was very much an homage to the great (not perfect) things Hinkie did to put us in position to take off towards being a contender in the next few years. BC was our worst nightmare the moment JC was hired, sadly it has come to pass. Hopefully he is better than expected, especially given the riches of assets and clean salary cap he inherited.


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Post#576 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:45 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:
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you're right that it's tough to gauge. Hinkie has a lot of fans. every time I came to Realgm there was some new poster named Hinkie4evr or something who was calling me a grandpa for doubting the process.

But the lottery party was after he got fired, right? Hinkie's relegation breathed some life back into the franchise. A ton of fans had checked out because of the tanking.

I was pretty jacked to start following the team again once they put Hinkie into the proper role of chief of analytics and coffee. Sad that he couldn't accept that role. Does anyone know what he's doing now?


Are you serious? You're trying to claim that the lottery party was so packed because people were excited that Hinkie was gone? What a joke.

And sure. Hinkie's resignation is what "breathed some life back into the franchise". It had nothing to do with winning the #1 overall pick and the right to draft a franchise talent in Ben Simmons. Something that Hinkie maximized our chances to do.

In fact, Hinkie's moves gave us the BEST CHANCE at the #1 overall pick that any team has ever had under the current lottery rules. But let's just ignore that.


It was part of it. Certainly there were a lot of Truthers there. It's the #2 Most important day of the year for the process. But I think the reconciliation process the Colangelo began had brought back a lot of people.

What do you guys make of the fact that Brett Brown was probably trying to get Hinkie fired? He certainly seemed happy when Colangelo was brought in. Is Brett Brown gen x?


I guess these people chanting thank you hinkie because they were rejuvenated he left :roll: :roll:
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Post#577 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:46 pm

You've jumped the shark and began writing fan fiction now.
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Post#578 » by Arsenal » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:49 pm

As others have said, the Colangelos were looking for the best spot to stick the knife into Brett Brown's back so they could put their guy Mike D'Antoni in charge. They were going to do him just like they did Hinkie.

Hinkie giving Brown a contract extension, and us winning the rights to Ben Simmons were the 2 things that saved him.
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Post#579 » by PhillyRocks1 » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:53 pm

Any rumors out there where Hinkie is getting a job?
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Post#580 » by Chamberlainship » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:56 pm

Kobblehead wrote:You've jumped the shark and began writing fan fiction now.


I am working on the definitive account of the Hinkie era. ESPN films has the option. You gotta sex it up a little.

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