2016 draft thread: Part 2

[jpatrick]

Great! I was starting to get the impression/gut feeling that we might pass on him if he were available.

I don't think we would...though it'd be interesting to see what we'd do in this scenario:

1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Hield
4. Murray

Does Thibs lean Bender or Dunn?

I can't imagine they'd both be available, but it's the season of misinformation. For all we know, in that situation, we'd pass on both and take Chriss.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Remember claiming Dunn is a defender is the same as him being future DPOY.

That is what you posted.

I'm sure you know what I meant as I posted other stuff about it on last page. But I'm not gonna engage in any further discussions about it with a jack*** poster.

[Mattya]

That is what you posted.

I'm sure you know what I meant as I posted other stuff about it on last page. But I'm not gonna engage in any further discussions about it with a jack*** poster.

umm okay

You could just respond to what people actually write instead

[Swish4]

Moving up is always a possibility.

[Grits n Gravy]

Bender to us has to happen. I don't know how but the fit is too perfect for it not to happen .

[Klomp]

Just like I said a week or two ago.....

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CsBleedGreen/status/738858439955369984[/tweet]

[Klomp]

“If Bender is drafted four, then what the Suns management and Ryan McDonough is saying is, ‘We’re not going to win right away,’” Fraschilla said. “But you’re getting a 7-foot-1 young man who’s 18-and-a-half years old, who the coaching staff is going to have to develop over the next couple of years.”

The ESPN analyst contrasted Bender to the Knicks’ fourth overall pick from Europe last year, Kristaps Porzingis.

“Can he be a very good NBA player? The answer is yes,” he said. “[Bender] is not as advanced as where Porzingis was a year ago, because, a: he’s younger, and b: he didn’t have the luxury of playing two years in the second-best league in the world in Spain. … “He’s a unique talent, but in my mind at least one year away from being an effective NBA player.”

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[Klomp]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/739566995931332608[/tweet]

I have no idea who this guy is, but he has 25k followers and David Stein has cited him as a source, so I'm guessing he's solid.

He broke the news of David Blatt coaching in Turkey. He's solid.

[Merc_Porto]

Unless Thibs thinks he'll be a substantially better PG long term than Rubio. I know this board doesn't think that, but Thibs may feel differently.

Why can't Rubio and Dunn play together ?

[Takingbaconback]

Unless Thibs thinks he'll be a substantially better PG long term than Rubio. I know this board doesn't think that, but Thibs may feel differently.

Why can't Rubio and Dunn play together ?

Cuz LaVine is much better SG than either of them.

[Klomp]

Unless Thibs thinks he'll be a substantially better PG long term than Rubio. I know this board doesn't think that, but Thibs may feel differently.

Why can't Rubio and Dunn play together ?

Cuz LaVine is much better SG than either of them.

Still need backups.

[Takingbaconback]

Why can't Rubio and Dunn play together ?

Cuz LaVine is much better SG than either of them.

Still need backups.

Sure and so either Rubio and Dunn can play backup PG. It would be great to have them compete with winner as a starter and loser coming off the bench. Point being, Rubio is not good enough and Dunn is too good at PG to move Dunn to SG. Somebody like LeBron or KD, I can see moving around SF/PF or even SG to open up space for an elite prospect to play their one position but don't think this scenario is as fluid (That PG/SG combo is a lot more difficult to play around than 6'9-6'10 wings also). Then you add 21 year old LaVine to the mix and there's really no need to start Rubio or Dunn at the 2.

Not really sure why people were so against the idea of signing Conley and bringing Rubio off the bench couple months ago cuz board seems more receptive toward getting Dunn. If Wolves get to draft Bender, I hope they push for Conley hard. Bring in Tyler Johnson at backup SG. That rotation is absolute money with still a lot of time and flexibility to make improvements

Conley/Rubio
LaVine/T Johnson
Wiggins/Bazz
Bender/Bjelica
KAT/Dieng

[Klomp]

Cuz LaVine is much better SG than either of them.

Still need backups.

Sure and so either Rubio and Dunn can play backup PG. It would be great to have them compete with winner as a starter and loser coming off the bench. Point being, Rubio is not good enough and Dunn is too good at PG to move Dunn to SG. Somebody like LeBron or KD, I can see moving around SF/PF or even SG to open up space for an elite prospect to play their one position but don't think this scenario is as fluid (That PG/SG combo is a lot more difficult to play around than 6'9-6'10 wings also). Then you add 21 year old LaVine to the mix and there's really no need to start Rubio or Dunn at the 2.

Nobody said anything about starting.

[Klomp]

Not really sure why people were so against the idea of signing Conley and bringing Rubio off the bench couple months ago cuz board seems more receptive toward getting Dunn.

Because Conley can't play minutes at SG next to Rubio, while some of us think Dunn can.

[Takingbaconback]

Still need backups.

Sure and so either Rubio and Dunn can play backup PG. It would be great to have them compete with winner as a starter and loser coming off the bench. Point being, Rubio is not good enough and Dunn is too good at PG to move Dunn to SG. Somebody like LeBron or KD, I can see moving around SF/PF or even SG to open up space for an elite prospect to play their one position but don't think this scenario is as fluid (That PG/SG combo is a lot more difficult to play around than 6'9-6'10 wings also). Then you add 21 year old LaVine to the mix and there's really no need to start Rubio or Dunn at the 2.

Nobody said anything about starting.

I wouldn't want to see them play together for more than 5 minutes a game but yeah sure if you are focused on the technicalities, why not play them together for a little bit.

[Merc_Porto]

D.Wade and M.Chalmers is a bad comparision for a Rubio - Dunn backcourt ?

[Takingbaconback]

Not really sure why people were so against the idea of signing Conley and bringing Rubio off the bench couple months ago cuz board seems more receptive toward getting Dunn.

Because Conley can't play minutes at SG next to Rubio, while some of us think Dunn can.

Rubio can't play any minutes at SG either. When you sign a guy like Conley you don't think of him as a SG. This new FO has no ties to Rubio, the time when everything revolved building around him is over. LaVine is at the 2 and will take significant minutes there, so there is little importance in how a PG will play at the 2. And I said Conley and Rubio can play at a 60/40 split, which makes the fact that Conley isn't good at SG negligible.

[Krapinsky]

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Is there anyway Bender gets past Phoenix though?

[Klomp]

Is there anyway Bender gets past Phoenix though?

Sure, there's always a way....

[Domejandro]

Is there anyway Bender gets past Phoenix though?

Sure, there's always a way....

I am a proponent of picking Buddy or trading the pick, but if he falls we have to pick him. We have the perfect roster construction to develop him slowly.