Giannis' Development

[GeoBar]

As stated above

1.Giannis is in US 2 days now.
2.Meeting is in Thursday.

What we have till now.

1.Nobody from the Bucks pressure Giannis not to play with the NT.
2.Thanassis' selection is an extra motivation for Giannis to join the team( that is one of the 2 reasons he was selected i guess)
3.Giannis has the best card in this "game"...They love him in Milwaukee and they want him to be happy being there. But he is not the type of person who will take advantage from that.

Also

1. Thinking that Giannis will demand for a trade or he will be furious because he will not join the team for a Olympic qualification round is laughable.
2. He knows that his future is in NBA and he knows that for at least 5 years he will be a Buck.
3.The favourite team that Giannis may join if anyhthing goes wrong with the Bucks(hope not).. is the Wizzards.(and not for only basketball related reasons)
4.Hope he will join the national team just because i can't stand hearing some people here(in Greece) accusing him that he didn't want to come.(Personally i don't care if he comes or not.I am more interesting about Giannis' future than the national team's).

[H2tObes]

Let me ask you this though: how much better do you think Giannis would've been last season had he skipped playing for Greece in Eurobasket?

Evidently he benefited quite a bit from playing with the NT last summer, and he will most likely benefit from playing with the NT again and becoming more of a focal point. He probably doesn't have a better season even if he skipped Eurobasket, because last season was probably best case scenario for Giannis. This shows that playing for the NT isn't a bad thing for his development, he can still greatly improve just from playing more team basketball, he is still a basketball baby compared to a lot of guys in the NBA and game experience benefits him. This offseason is a bit different I think though, Giannis is 21 years old now and a jumper away from being frankly dominant, players can get caught in bad habits at this age if they go unattended. Giannis could really take a massive step from working on his jumper constantly this summer, maybe that time committed to the NT this summer stalls the development of his shot for another season. I'm sure the Bucks are really wanting to work with Giannis and improve his shot, which I'm guessing is why they told him they would prefer if he didn't play.

Question: Will the Greek NT use Giannis as a full time point forward now that he is ready to captain the team?

[Magic Giannison]

Let me ask you this though: how much better do you think Giannis would've been last season had he skipped playing for Greece in Eurobasket?

Question: Will the Greek NT use Giannis as a full time point forward now that he is ready to captain the team?

Our NT coach literally offers the keys to Giannis on the plate. He said on t he podcast that this team is ready to build around him and that he wants Giannis to have the ball MUCH more.
He said that last time wasn't possible because of Spanoulis and other players that rightfully had the bigger saying and role.

Now its all about GIannis, if you see the roster he called up very young guys which means he wants to focus on the future of the team. He also called Thanasis which should be an extra motivation for GIannis to join.

[thomchatt3rton]

Everyone is talking about what is best for Giannis here but in reality its coming off as what Giannis decision is best for me as a fan. Lets not pretend anyone is really 100% thinking about what is best for Giannis because that isn't what I'm reading. Greece fans want him to play for them this summer because it helps their team quite a bit and majority of Bucks fans would prefer he work on his game so he takes that next step next season and leads us to the playoffs.

Bucks aren't the bad guy here, and I don't think there is one in this situation. You can't expect them to want their franchise player, who they plan on giving a lot of money to this summer, to play for Greece when he could be in Milwaukee working with their staff. There is a reason most players don't improve certain parts of their game while playing competitively, that improvement is done in the offseason. There's a huge difference between practicing your jumper while also preparing for games versus spending an entire day focusing just on shooting. I get why Greece wants Giannis to play for them also, but if we are thinking about what is REALLY best for Giannis. It is that huge contract he will be able to sign this summer. That is what is best for Giannis and his family.

What I'd do if I were the Bucks is say we'd prefer you stay in Milwaukee and get better, but if you decide to play for Greece we will support your decision and send some of our staff out there to help you work on your game. Then we'll discuss the new contract when you get back.

You're not wrong about how selfishness as a fan comes into it- personally I admit part of the reason I want him to play for Greece is because I want to watch him rip the living sh*t out of international basketball competition this summer. Pure selfishness.

But I still think most of us American fans drastically underrate how much it means to these guys to play for their country- especially in the Olympics. Bucks fans will sorta acknowledge this, but they very quickly gloss over it en route to discussing the "more important" factors in the debate.

Greek fans understand this fully (naturally) and while there might be some fan selfishness on their parts, I think there's a real understanding of how international players feel about their NT involved as well.

And while you're deciding "what's REALLY best for Giannis" you might consider taking into account what he's actually said is important to him- and one big thing for him is playing for Greece.

[turbostef]

Let me ask you this though: how much better do you think Giannis would've been last season had he skipped playing for Greece in Eurobasket?

Question: Will the Greek NT use Giannis as a full time point forward now that he is ready to captain the team?

Our NT coach literally offers the keys to Giannis on the plate. He said on t he podcast that this team is ready to build around him and that he wants Giannis to have the ball MUCH more.
He said that last time wasn't possible because of Spanoulis and other players that rightfully had the bigger saying and role.

Now its all about GIannis, if you see the roster he called up very young guys which means he wants to focus on the future of the team. He also called Thanasis which should be an extra motivation for GIannis to join.

One thing that I do not know is: Does the Coach have the Balls to give Giannis the Basketball in the same way that the Bucks do?

Because this would mean that Giannis needs Guards around him (and even a SF) that can shoot.

That would mean that Calathes (our main PG) would not fit besides Giannis. I would rather see Giannis with Sloukas and Papanikolaou
than with Calathes.

This would be logical as this would copy the Bucks System (Bayless and Middleton with Giannis).

But does Katsikaris really have the Balls to let Calathes come off the bench and lead the second unit?

Calathes defense-wise is perfect next to Giannis but in the offense this would lead to Problems as we would not have
any fire-power from behind the arc. In Zone-Defense FIBA Level this is even more of a problem.

As I said earlier Coach would have to try to run the court (with Giannis as Ball-handler) every single possesion.
This is the best way to use Giannis abilities as nobody outside of the NBA can defend this.

[yannisk]

I have a feeling that Giannis will be used mainly as a PF since this is now the most 'empty' position

[turbostef]

I have a feeling that Giannis will be used mainly as a PF since this is now the most 'empty' position

That "experiment" did not work last year. Why would Coach try this again?

In the first friendly last year against in Belgium I asked the Coach what Position Giannis will play.
He answered : "4 of course".

In Zagreb and France later Giannis did not play 4 very much. Obviously that experiment has been cancelled last year

[yannisk]

I have a feeling that Giannis will be used mainly as a PF since this is now the most 'empty' position

That "experiment" did not work last year. Why would Coach try this again?

I am not certain that is going to happen but, I see the narrative as follows. Giannis is probably the best rebounder and shot blocker of the team, after Printezis injury there is not a single quality PF available. So on defence Giannis will play as a PF and it makes sense.

On offense you have the timidness of Greek coaches to try something new and the fact that you have Calathes as a PG. Calathes cannot play of the ball and he is a quality player for Greek NT standards, it will take some balls to put him on the bench. You will hear all Greek 'analysts' about how 'brainy' and tight is fiba basketball and how inexperienced is Giannis running the point. I expect that they will give Giannis the ball a few times per game, more as an isolation play from the perimeter plus some post ups. I may be wrong and Katsikaris gives Giannis the keys but I don't hold my breath

[H2tObes]

The coach has got to know that Giannis is best with the ball in his hands. I would be disappointed if he still has to settle for an off the ball role to players he is superior to

[greekbuck34]

I just want Giannis' best possible option.
Is it staying in Milwaukee making 10k shots a day or going with his brother at pre-Olympics for half a month while also making couple of thousand shots per day, I don't really know. Both options will offer considerable growth to his game imo.

Personally Its been already 2 months without some Giannis ball and I just want to watch him play again as soon as possible and going with the NT is the only way, otherwise I will have to wait until September which is too long for me.

I won't mind if Giannis decides to stay back this year if thats his decision. It's not a sure thing that we will qualify for the Olympics with Giannis or without him anyway. The Greek NT is currently on building mode(Only two players are over 30 years old) and failing to qualify won't be such a big deal while the opposite would be a huge success with or without Giannis.

If the Bucks somehow change Giannis mind and keep him at Milwaukee I will be interested to see what kind of plan they prepared for him for his free summer(Workouts with Lebron, the best possible trainers around him, special body workouts etc).

[crkone]

If they send him back to the point guard academy for the next 2 months, I'd say that would be best outcome for everyone.

[har13]

relax boys ,we all want the best for Gianni!!!!
in others news...(Galis say hello " Lazy Potato"...hahaha)

Drazen Petrovic said: "If I'm devil's son, Galis is the devil himself"

Galis vs Petrovic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBPxuEx14xA
Galis vs Sabonis
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94X7oyzlfeY[/youtube]

[ZeppelinPage]

Bucks dont allow GIannis to play in the Olympics....
Giannis got two days to change Bucks mind or he wont play.
Giannis doesnt like that at all.

Link?

Its in greek. The Giannis not liking part i've heard in a radio show here in Greece.
http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/ElladaBasket/EthnikiBasket/oxi-twn-mpaks-ston-giannh-alla.4100168.html

The article says that bucks do not want to leave Giannis participate in the Olympics but the final decision isnt made yet and that Giannis got until Wednesday to convince them otherwise.
The also mention Giannis is trying to sign a contract and that he may not decline Bucks decision.

On the radio show they said Giannis really doesnt like that and will try to talk them over.

Honestly surprised he would be upset by this, obviously he must know Bucks care about his development and want what is best for him. I figured after what Kobe was telling him about how to approach the summer he could see why we might want him to stay in Milwaukee to do training and work on his game.

[RRyder823]

Link?

Its in greek. The Giannis not liking part i've heard in a radio show here in Greece.
http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/ElladaBasket/EthnikiBasket/oxi-twn-mpaks-ston-giannh-alla.4100168.html

The article says that bucks do not want to leave Giannis participate in the Olympics but the final decision isnt made yet and that Giannis got until Wednesday to convince them otherwise.
The also mention Giannis is trying to sign a contract and that he may not decline Bucks decision.

On the radio show they said Giannis really doesnt like that and will try to talk them over.

Honestly surprised he would be upset by this, obviously he must know Bucks care about his development and want what is best for him. I figured after what Kobe was telling him about how to approach the summer he could see why we might want him to stay in Milwaukee to do training and work on his game.

You're honestly suprised that he would be upset if he was asked not to do something he wants to do? Really?

Seems like it'd be pretty par for the course. Seems like being told not to do anything you want to do would rub damn near everyone the wrong way.

Even if he understands that doesn't mean he can't be upset

[theFireBlanket]

1. Thinking that Giannis will demand for a trade or he will be furious because he will not join the team for a Olympic qualification round is laughable.
2. He knows that his future is in NBA and he knows that for at least 5 years he will be a Buck.
3.The favourite team that Giannis may join if anyhthing goes wrong with the Bucks(hope not).. is the Wizzards.(and not for only basketball related reasons)
4.Hope he will join the national team just because i can't stand hearing some people here(in Greece) accusing him that he didn't want to come.(Personally i don't care if he comes or not. I am more interesting about Giannis' future than the national team's).

Where's this coming from? I didn't get that in the 24.gr NBA article, so I'm guessing this is insider stuff(?). Are the non-basketball reasons known, can they be shared?

Just let "John" Antetokounmpo lead Greece to the Olympics, Bucks' decision makers. He can still work on his game & keep a 11,317 shot a day regimen while training with the national team. Send some of the staff with him.

Don't sow any bitter feelings moving forward. He's proven himself a diligent worker & able to make strides, trust his instinct.
Work with, not against him. Create a positive culture. No need to be paranoid.

If Jabari was invited to play for USA, there'd probably be no chance the owners tell him he can't do it.*

[yannisk]

We know that he wants to go to the NT. We don't know if he will be upset if he doesn't go, he may just get a mild displeasure or he may get really sad. In any case I am sure when he sees this 150 million new contract he will forget all these(I am getting a bit cynical)

I was reading a sports journalist who thinks in the next years it will be more difficult to go to the NT since it will be difficult for the Greek basketball federation to cover the insurance for a 150million contract

[The Lazy Potato]

relax boys ,we all want the best for Gianni!!!!
in others news...(Galis say hello " Lazy Potato"...hahaha)

Drazen Petrovic said: "If I'm devil's son, Galis is the devil himself"

Galis vs Petrovic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBPxuEx14xA
Galis vs Sabonis
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94X7oyzlfeY[/youtube]

Nick Galis isn't greek-american? he was great player in europe,but we will never find out how good player he would be in the nba.. I never understood why he preferred to stay in europe instead come to nba..

[yannisk]

Nick Galis isn't greek-american? he was great player in europe,but we will never find out how good player he would be in the nba

(I will let all hell break loose)
He was better than both Spanoulis and Brandon Knight

.. I never understood why he preferred to stay in europe instead come to nba..

He was paid very well in Europe to be a star and he was not certain what kind of role he would get in the nba.

[Prez]

If it's most likely only till July 9th, should just let him go for it. Don't need to piss him off. Send a couple staff trainers with him and make sure he's working on the right stuff, and working enough on it. Jump shot, ball handling, post game. And get him the damn ball in the games, none of this off-ball hustle PF crap.

[turbostef]

Giannis will rock Italy and I will be there to Support him cant wait to see him live again. Damn sometimes I wish I were living in Milwaukee

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