I can't believe I'm doing this:Irving to Utah - Cavs/Suns/Jazz

[Qwigglez]

Simple basis:

Utah trades Hayward for Irving.

Gets the long term PG upgrade and his defensive problems should be helped by having Favors and Gobert behind him. Hood seems pretty ready to take Hayward's spot.

Cleveland trades Irving for Bledsoe.

Just really a better fit at PG to me, a solid defender and better athlete.

Phoenix trades Bledsoe for Hayward.

Phoenix gets a still young wing to go with the core and can draft Dunn to start over Knight.

I think it needs something more to the Cavs but not sure what.

I think the deal makes sense for all teams. The only issue is Bledsoe's health but if Lebron can convince his FO to take the deal I think they do it.
Would love for the Suns to have Booker/Hayward on the wings. That would be a dream scenario.

[bondom34]

Yeah I think PHX has to add a little though, which is where I'm hung up.

[bwgood77]

Yeah I think PHX has to add a little though, which is where I'm hung up.

To which team? Tucker could be thrown in...he would be relentless guarding 2-4 guys on opposing teams, dive for lose balls and just provide that energy to the team that is a bit infectious that helps everyone buy in a little bit. Cleveland needs defensive guys to throw at the Warriors.

The thing is, I think there is a bit of overreaction to the Warriors dominating the Cavs here. It is not necessarily that there is a flaw with the Cavs until they run up against the team with the best record in the history of the nba. They won 10 playoff games in a row and only lost two in close games on the road in the ECF. It's hardly a time to panic and make trades just for the sake of it. The grass isn't always greener.

[bondom34]

Yeah I think PHX has to add a little though, which is where I'm hung up.

To which team? Tucker could be thrown in...he would be relentless guarding 2-4 guys on opposing teams, dive for lose balls and just provide that energy to the team that is a bit infectious that helps everyone buy in a little bit. Cleveland needs defensive guys to throw at the Warriors.

The thing is, I think there is a bit of overreaction to the Warriors dominating the Cavs here. It is not necessarily that there is a flaw with the Cavs until they run up against the team with the best record in the history of the nba. They won 10 playoff games in a row and only lost two in close games on the road in the ECF. It's hardly a time to panic and make trades just for the sake of it. The grass isn't always greener.

Yeah Cleveland needs a little more, they could send the Cavs their pick back or vets, rsavaj's idea was solid.

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[bwgood77]

Yeah I think PHX has to add a little though, which is where I'm hung up.

To which team? Tucker could be thrown in...he would be relentless guarding 2-4 guys on opposing teams, dive for lose balls and just provide that energy to the team that is a bit infectious that helps everyone buy in a little bit. Cleveland needs defensive guys to throw at the Warriors.

The thing is, I think there is a bit of overreaction to the Warriors dominating the Cavs here. It is not necessarily that there is a flaw with the Cavs until they run up against the team with the best record in the history of the nba. They won 10 playoff games in a row and only lost two in close games on the road in the ECF. It's hardly a time to panic and make trades just for the sake of it. The grass isn't always greener.

Yeah Cleveland needs a little more, they could send the Cavs their pick back or vets, rsavaj's idea was solid.

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yeah, those vets are fine...I don't think the Cavs would care at all about the 28th pick...don't know that they'd want Chandler. Price not sure about either, but he is a good defender and can come in and hit 3s. Tucker makes sense, though with Shumpert and Smith, not sure. Bledsoe seems to make sense but no one can really stop Curry. I think they need all shooters around Lebron but guys with defense. Like an Ibaka, Love trade seems like it might make sense.

Ultimately, I think the Cavs could win the title anyway if they were not facing one of the best teams in history, so I'd probably stick with it