Philly to explore trade offers for Okafor and Noel

[tiderulz]

Horford. We need veteran presence and all-star level talent more than a frail, average young big that knows even less about winning than our current core.

if Noel is frail, so is Vuc. They both played about the same amount of games the past 2 years.

I mean frail as in a total lightweight. How can a center weigh 228 and not get pushed around in the paint? Hell, Gordon weighs 8 pounds less and he's a forward. Most centers weigh around 260. You think Noel's twig thin frame could handle 30 more pounds to bang in the paint? I don't want to have to worry about that.

he played center 2 years ago the entire season. Spent a lot of time last year between PF and C. i think he could handle it, especially with the league going away from big, plodding centers right now. Horford and Gobert player at 245, Noah at 232, Gortat at 240. So if he really has to bang, he doesnt need to add 30 lbs. could add 15 and be fine.

[fendilim]

if Noel is frail, so is Vuc. They both played about the same amount of games the past 2 years.

I mean frail as in a total lightweight. How can a center weigh 228 and not get pushed around in the paint? Hell, Gordon weighs 8 pounds less and he's a forward. Most centers weigh around 260. You think Noel's twig thin frame could handle 30 more pounds to bang in the paint? I don't want to have to worry about that.

he played center 2 years ago the entire season. Spent a lot of time last year between PF and C. i think he could handle it, especially with the league going away from big, plodding centers right now. Horford and Gobert player at 245, Noah at 232, Gortat at 240. So if he really has to bang, he doesnt need to add 30 lbs. could add 15 and be fine.

+1. Especially with today's small ball revolution, there really is no need to have a bulky center if he cant catch up with the speed of the game.

[mksp]

My bad, rough communication on my part there. I'm talking about Embiid. If Noel's defense is so great, why don't they keep him and pair him with Simmons? Seems like they are valuing Embiid over both Noel and Okafor.

If Embiid is healthy he's in the conversation with KAT as one of the best young big men in the league, and a generational talent.

I want to keep Noel personally, would much rather trade Okafor.

Ask Greg Oden how much talent matters when your injury prone. It's going to be tough just getting that guy on the court. I would go after Noel Or Okafor before I ever took a chance on Embiid

I'm just answering the question.

You can't sell low on Embiid.

[thelead]

If Embiid is healthy he's in the conversation with KAT as one of the best young big men in the league, and a generational talent.

I want to keep Noel personally, would much rather trade Okafor.

Ask Greg Oden how much talent matters when your injury prone. It's going to be tough just getting that guy on the court. I would go after Noel Or Okafor before I ever took a chance on Embiid

I'm just answering the question.

You can't sell low on Embiid.

Not at this point. Your team has spent too much time and effort to give him away for peanuts and any gm would be fired if they gave up a key piece of their team for the chance at a healthy Embiid at this point. You guys are stuck with him for better or worse. I hope we do get to see a healthy Embiid though. That kid showed glimpses of greatness in college.

[Xatticus]

I mean frail as in a total lightweight. How can a center weigh 228 and not get pushed around in the paint? Hell, Gordon weighs 8 pounds less and he's a forward. Most centers weigh around 260. You think Noel's twig thin frame could handle 30 more pounds to bang in the paint? I don't want to have to worry about that.

Are Tyson Chandler and Kevin Garnett frail? Both were also rail thin when they entered the league. Anyone can gain mass while sacrificing mobility, but Noel's mobility is a major part of what makes him so valuable on the defensive end.

I would personally love to have Noel and wouldn't mind moving Oladipo in exchange, though I would expect a bit more in return. Both will be entering RFA at the same time. I'm not at all convinced that Oladipo will be a valuable player under the terms of his next contract, so I'm not sure why some are so attached to him.

[shinoff2183]

I mean frail as in a total lightweight. How can a center weigh 228 and not get pushed around in the paint? Hell, Gordon weighs 8 pounds less and he's a forward. Most centers weigh around 260. You think Noel's twig thin frame could handle 30 more pounds to bang in the paint? I don't want to have to worry about that.

Are Tyson Chandler and Kevin Garnett frail? Both were also rail thin when they entered the league. Anyone can gain mass while sacrificing mobility, but Noel's mobility is a major part of what makes him so valuable on the defensive end.

I would personally love to have Noel and wouldn't mind moving Oladipo in exchange, though I would expect a bit more in return. Both will be entering RFA at the same time. I'm not at all convinced that Oladipo will be a valuable player under the terms of his next contract, so I'm not sure why some are so attached to him.

He shows flashes on offense and is arguably our best defensive player hands down. That might play into some of the attachment.

[76ciology]

I come in peace.

Noel and Covington for Oladipo.

Covington is a good shooter with 7'2 wingspan. He's good at deflections 1.6spg and .6bpg. He's also top 10 in RPM at 1.72 RPM/28.4MPG. He has one of the best contracts in the league.

Payton
Hezonja
Covington
Gordon
Noel/Vuc


Vuc's mid range game might allow him to play with Noel, if you guys opt to play big. While Noel gives you a much needed rim protector.

Play Small with Gordon-Noel frontcourt. Hope Hezonja and Payton develops into a star guard and Gordon into a much better shooter.

P.S. Saw at the other thread of a poster suggesting a line-up where Vuc plays off the bench with Gordon and a rim protector starting.

[MagicFan32]

the value isn't bad but i dont believe the magic should trade dipo.

[j-ragg]

I'd do that trade.

Noel as a rookie posted some of the best defense advanced stats in the league. Would hurt moving Vic though.


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[OrlChamps2030]

People here really dislike Noel, dating back to his time at UK. But I would think long and hard about an Oladipo for Noel + Covington swap. Hezonja and Gordon is too much and a sign&trade of Fournier wouldn't work.

Noel has already shown he can be an elite defensive big man in this league which we desperately need. Only issue is, Noel has shown to be much more effective playing C than PF.

[Xatticus]

I come in peace.

Noel and Covington for Oladipo.

Covington is a good shooter with 7'2 wingspan. He's good at deflections 1.6spg and .6bpg. He's also top 10 in RPM at 1.72 RPM/28.4MPG. He has one of the best contracts in the league.

Payton
Hezonja
Covington
Gordon
Noel/Vuc


Vuc's mid range game might allow him to play with Noel, if you guys opt to play big. While Noel gives you a much needed rim protector.

Play Small with Gordon-Noel frontcourt. Hope Hezonja and Payton develops into a star guard and Gordon into a much better shooter.

P.S. Saw at the other thread of a poster suggesting a line-up where Vuc plays off the bench with Gordon and a rim protector starting.

I would do this trade. I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams.

[tiderulz]

I come in peace.

Noel and Covington for Oladipo.

Covington is a good shooter with 7'2 wingspan. He's good at deflections 1.6spg and .6bpg. He's also top 10 in RPM at 1.72 RPM/28.4MPG. He has one of the best contracts in the league.

Payton
Hezonja
Covington
Gordon
Noel/Vuc


Vuc's mid range game might allow him to play with Noel, if you guys opt to play big. While Noel gives you a much needed rim protector.

Play Small with Gordon-Noel frontcourt. Hope Hezonja and Payton develops into a star guard and Gordon into a much better shooter.

P.S. Saw at the other thread of a poster suggesting a line-up where Vuc plays off the bench with Gordon and a rim protector starting.

i would also do this trade

[Nemesis21]

I'd think about that trade. How is he defensively though?