OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[CharlesOakley]

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What does BLM have to do with anything discussed? I think you're missing the plot.

You could have just posted this:

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[CharlesOakley]

[knicksrbake]

“The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists”

[Boss_]

[CharlesOakley]

Just so we are clear:

FASCISM - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I know there are people here that are historically illiterate but Trump checks a lot more fascist boxes than anyone else. He exalts nation and race, wants to limit freedom of the press, ban Muslims and forcibly remove undocumented immigrants.

You can throw around the term as loosely as you like but at least learn what it means.



Yes, Trump tweeted this. But no, he isn't a racist, right? (In case you can't tell, these numbers are absurd).

Trump’s support among racists is no secret. The billionaire, who keeps a book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches at his bedside, attracts white supremacists in droves. Supporters are even comfortable screaming “white power” at his events, and Trump’s campaign is comfortable defending them by explaining they are “very receptive to” his message of “making America great again.”

So maybe you aren't a racist and are just ignorant. The man you worship and who can do no wrong in your eyes definitely is.

[knicksrbake]

Just so we are clear:

FASCISM - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I know there are people here that are historically illiterate but Trump checks a lot more fascist boxes than anyone else. He exalts nation and race, wants to limit freedom of the press, ban Muslims and forcibly remove undocumented immigrants.

You can throw around the term as loosely as you like but at least learn what it means.



Yes, Trump tweeted this. But no, he isn't a racist, right? (In case you can't tell, these numbers are absurd).

Trump’s support among racists is no secret. The billionaire, who keeps a book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches at his bedside, attracts white supremacists in droves. Supporters are even comfortable screaming “white power” at his events, and Trump’s campaign is comfortable defending them by explaining they are “very receptive to” his message of “making America great again.”

So maybe you aren't a racist and are just ignorant. The man you worship and who can do no wrong in your eyes definitely is.

You seem to not understand what facism is.

Please read this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1104687/Beware-liberal-fascists--leaders-aim-save-controlling-do.html

As for his numbers, yes they're way off. Black on black murder is around 90%, black on white murder (probably meant with regard to interracial murder) is probably around 70%. Blacks killed by whites is a little under 8% (if looking at interracial murder probably around 20-25%). Not sure where he got his numbers from. Probably the same place Obama gets his numbers regarding the gender wage gap.

[CharlesOakley]

He got them from a white supremest. You are arguing against the literal definition of fascism, just so you are aware.

[CJackson]

This guy is going to bury himself by the time the election rolls around. What a fugging moron. Can't wait for the debates

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/us/politics/could-a-muslim-judge-be-trump-neutral-trump-thinks-not.html

Could a Muslim Judge Be Trump Neutral? Trump Thinks Not

Donald J. Trump said Sunday that a Muslim judge might have trouble remaining neutral in a lawsuit against him, extending his race-based criticism of the jurist overseeing the case to include religion.

His remarks, in an interview with John Dickerson, the host of CBS’s “Face the Nation,” come amid growing disapproval from fellow Republicans over his attacks on Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel, a federal judge in California overseeing a suit against the defunct Trump University, whose impartiality Mr. Trump questioned based on the judge’s Mexican heritage.

Mr. Trump has called Judge Curiel, who was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants, a “Mexican” and said he has a “conflict of interest” in the case because of Mr. Trump’s proposed border wall with Mexico.

Mr. Dickerson asked Mr. Trump if, in his view, a Muslim judge would be similarly biased because of the Republican presumptive nominee’s call for a ban on Muslim immigrants. “It’s possible, yes,” Mr. Trump said. “Yeah. That would be possible. Absolutely.”

The candidate’s broadside against Judge Curiel was one of the most overtly racial remarks he has made in the presidential race, and it has been roundly criticized by prominent Republicans.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, did not directly answer a question about whether the remark was racist, but said he completely disagreed with it. “All of us came here from somewhere else,” Mr. McConnell said in reference to Judge Curiel’s heritage. “That’s an important part of what makes America work.”

Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, a Republican who had been floated as a potential vice presidential nominee alongside Mr. Trump, said on ABC News’s “This Week” of Mr. Trump’s behavior: “I think that he’s going to have to change.” And Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker who has been among Mr. Trump’s most vocal supporters, called Mr. Trump’s remarks about Judge Curiel “inexcusable” on “Fox News Sunday.”

“This is one of the worst mistakes Trump has made,” Mr. Gingrich said.

[captvict]

Nice speech tonight...he ought to stick to the teleprompter

[CJackson]

When Newt Gingrich starts to turn on you and Paul Ryan calls you a racist Trump is going to break apart the Republican party

After all the petty whining in this thread about some of us or the "media" calling Trump a racist Paul Ryan coming out and saying Trump is racist should shut this moronic objection down for once and for all. If Trump supporters are still going to whine about it they will just make themselves look more and more ridiculous

[Butch718]

When Newt Gingrich starts to turn on you and Paul Ryan calls you a racist Trump is going to break apart the Republican party

After all the petty whining in this thread about some of us or the "media" calling Trump a racist Paul Ryan coming out and saying Trump is racist should shut this moronic objection down for once and for all. If Trump supporters are still going to whine about it they will just make themselves look more and more ridiculous

It doesn't matter if they condemn him, because both are on record stating that they would still vote for him. So their words ring hollow to me. Mark Kirk(S-IL) is the only one today to take back his endorsement. And he's only doing it because his seat is in danger. The majority of the party is full of cowards.


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[CJackson]

Now begins the stream of TV ads that will make their point about Trump simply by replaying footage of the things he says which no turd polisher will be able to say didnt happen

Here is one that is airing now

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/07/this-brutal-new-ad-portrays-donald-trump-as-a-full-blown-sociopath/

[CJackson]

When Newt Gingrich starts to turn on you and Paul Ryan calls you a racist Trump is going to break apart the Republican party

After all the petty whining in this thread about some of us or the "media" calling Trump a racist Paul Ryan coming out and saying Trump is racist should shut this moronic objection down for once and for all. If Trump supporters are still going to whine about it they will just make themselves look more and more ridiculous

It doesn't matter if they condemn him, because both are on record stating that they would still vote for him. So their words ring hollow to me. Mark Kirk(S-IL) is the only one today to take back his endorsement. And he's only doing it because his seat is in danger. The majority of the party is full of cowards.


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We have months of this still so we cant say it wont matter. He wont look like teflon by November

McCain is a good example of what you are saying tho

Trump said the dumbest rudest crap about him and he is gambling that it is better to support Trump than distance himself in his own re-election campaign. And that can backfire. McCain would rather gamble and align himself with trump. they are all pretty much whoring themselves. Christie was already damaged goods because of the GW bridge but he is completely in the gutter now because he whored himself to trump. so it wont matter if some in NJ vote for trump, they will still hate christie. McCain is flipping that script and risking what is good about his rep based on a calculation he gets more votes with trump. I think he is being a dumbass and it will cost him

[Butch718]

Christie is the very definition of a political whore. He's sacrificing his dignity and long term reputation backing up Trump. In fact, he didn't even condemn Trump's remarks about the judge, he basically defended him. This is one of the main reasons why he has some of the worst unfavorable numbers amongst Governors in this country. The people here in NJ loathe him.


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[CJackson]

Christie is the very definition of a political whore. He's sacrificing his dignity and long term reputation backing up Trump. In fact, he didn't even condemn Trump's remarks about the judge, he basically defended him. This is one of the main reasons why he has some of the worst unfavorable numbers amongst Governors in this country. The people here in NJ loathe him.


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Christie took out Rubio with that attack job in New Hampshire. Lo and behold in hindsight it sure looked like a deal with Trump to do that

Christie is not the norm though, his rep was already dawgchit. Thats why i brought up mccain who is arizona and basically horse traded any latino support he could have had for the white trump votes. And his poll numbers didnt benefit on that math switch. So mccain is just as much a whore because he is the last person who should be publicly for trump, at least be neutral, and he traded away all of his many decades of goodwill on a roll of the dice. thats lame and disgusting

[CJackson]

It just gets stranger by the day. Maybe Trump can help North Korea be great again too.

Kim Jong-Un Endorses Donald Trump

http://nationalreport.net/kim-jong-un-endorses-donald-trump/

North Korea praises Trump and urges US voters to reject 'dull Hillary'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary

North Korean state media op-ed calls Trump 'wise,' Clinton 'dull'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/31/politics/north-korea-donald-trump-wise-hillary-clinton-dull/

[CoolKids]

If you're arguing that trump is not a racist thats because you are one too. Simple as that.

[CJackson]

If you're arguing that trump is not a racist thats because you are one too. Simple as that.

This thread had a number of trump fanatics acting all butt hurt because trump was being called a racist. I offered up the same math as you and said supporting a racist makes them sympathetic to racist agendas and they were clucking like irate chickens claiming thats not fair and the media is biased. Unreal. The words come directly out of trumps mouth and these trolls still protest calling him exactly what he is and by default themselves too

[CJackson]

MY PREDICTION:

Trump will quit the race this Summer before the Republican Convention on July 18 and before he has to face Clinton in debates where he will get destroyed because he is clueless about government and policy making

To facilitate this he will cash in because he is a hustler

Behind the scenes a Repulican super-pac will raise $100 Million to buy out Trump and get him to leave the race. That money will appear in the form of some kind of real estate investment from a shell company investing in a deal with Trump's name on it

Paul Ryan or another Republican proxy will step in and assume the nomination at the Republican Convention

Trump can't handle the presidency. He only likes people sucking up to him and he is already falling to pieces from the heat which is only on a 2 setting now but will soon get turned up to 10. Clinton can handle the pressure. Trump will fold while he can.

It is coming. Trump is a quitter. Watch it happen.

[CoolKids]

also it is laughable to think Trump would win the presedential election. Red states will vote red. Blue will vote blue. And Hilary will win every swing state because she isn't a racist sexist homophobic islamiphobic xenophobic arrogant narcissistic self entitled bag of hot air.

And I am no fan of Hilary myself but given the two options there is no contest.