"Five" on the Whiteside

[TKainZero]

totally would trade Clarkson for noel\

would Philly do that thou

[jnick206]

1. He is 26 and presumably will develop more. (he might be able to anchor a defense or be the crutch for our lack of perimeter defense)

2. The jumper looks alright.

3. His wingspan.

4. Shot Blocking.

5. Makes Free Throws.

6. Looks great rolling to the basket.

7. I assume we will pay somebody max money and he is the best of all attainable options.

For what its worth, I like taking a chance on Meyers Leonard.

Wow a post that is on topic, where did that come from. By the way I also think this is a pretty good take, especially on the Meyers Leonard front, I really love him at anything $15 million per or less, and would still be optimistic even if it takes more. It is a risky signing though, but one I would like to see.

As for Whiteside I also love him as a player in a vacuum, but next to Randle I am less sure, but I am ok with signing him and figuring out the rest later, we can always make a trade later if needed. I would actually be quite ok with Whiteside and Leonard.

Agreed. I'd be happy with Whiteside and Leonard.

[ALL HAIL]

1. He is 26 and presumably will develop more. (he might be able to anchor a defense or be the crutch for our lack of perimeter defense)

2. The jumper looks alright.

3. His wingspan.

4. Shot Blocking.

5. Makes Free Throws.

6. Looks great rolling to the basket.

7. I assume we will pay somebody max money and he is the best of all attainable options.

For what its worth, I like taking a chance on Meyers Leonard.

Wow a post that is on topic, where did that come from. By the way I also think this is a pretty good take, especially on the Meyers Leonard front, I really love him at anything $15 million per or less, and would still be optimistic even if it takes more. It is a risky signing though, but one I would like to see.

As for Whiteside I also love him as a player in a vacuum, but next to Randle I am less sure, but I am ok with signing him and figuring out the rest later, we can always make a trade later if needed. I would actually be quite ok with Whiteside and Leonard.

Agreed. I'd be happy with Whiteside and Leonard.

I'd be happy with Spencer Hawes. I'm serious.

[gts1]

That he wants to get paid and get a guaranteed starting spot so that he can keep getting paid after his new contract is up (being a backup whacks your salary hardcore). Yea i'm pretty sure that's what he wants...

Maybe so but he can get paid and dictate where he wants to play and there's a lot of teams besides Philly that would want him.

Basically you end up with one of those scenarios where the Lakers try and move him to a team, Clarkson says no, now he's upset and the Lakers lose control of the situation and Clarkson's agent finds his future team not the Lakers. But that won't happen since all reports are the Lakers love Clarkson and he's not going anywhere any time soon.


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[jnick206]

Wow a post that is on topic, where did that come from. By the way I also think this is a pretty good take, especially on the Meyers Leonard front, I really love him at anything $15 million per or less, and would still be optimistic even if it takes more. It is a risky signing though, but one I would like to see.

As for Whiteside I also love him as a player in a vacuum, but next to Randle I am less sure, but I am ok with signing him and figuring out the rest later, we can always make a trade later if needed. I would actually be quite ok with Whiteside and Leonard.

Agreed. I'd be happy with Whiteside and Leonard.

I'd be happy with Spencer Hawes. I'm serious.

Why?

[ALL HAIL]

Agreed. I'd be happy with Whiteside and Leonard.

I'd be happy with Spencer Hawes. I'm serious.

Why?

Because although Leonard (when he's not perpetually hurt) would be 20% more effective than Hawes, Hawes would cost 80% less.

I think Meyers Leonard fits perfectly on the Lakers, but I don't think he's worth the financial risk I think it would require to attain him.

Hawes is the "B" version of Leonard at pennies on the dollar.

Note: I don't think 15 mill a year would be enough to acquire Leonard. At 15, I'd do it, but I think the number will be a shade near his max, which I'm guessing will be 20 mill or more on average.

[jnick206]

I'd be happy with Spencer Hawes. I'm serious.

Why?

Because although Leonard (when he's not perpetually hurt) would be 20% more effective than Hawes, Hawes would cost 80% less.

I think Meyers Leonard fits perfectly on the Lakers, but I don't think he's worth the financial risk I think it would require to attain him.

Hawes is the "B" version of Leonard at pennies on the dollar.

Note: I don't think 15 mill a year would be enough to acquire Leonard. At 15, I'd do it, but I think the number will be a shade near his max, which I'm guessing will be 20 mill or more on average.

I see. I am not sure about Leonard's price. You might be correct.

I think Hawes is not terrible. He has never lived up to expectations. Can't play defense. Runs with limp wrists. I don't see any developmental upside. I don't see how Hawes and Leonard compare at all unless you are pointing to his ability to stretch the floor, which I have seen glimpses of from time to time. But who knows, Maybe the Lakers trade for him and he knocks down some shots for us.

[jnick206]

Why?

Because although Leonard (when he's not perpetually hurt) would be 20% more effective than Hawes, Hawes would cost 80% less.

I think Meyers Leonard fits perfectly on the Lakers, but I don't think he's worth the financial risk I think it would require to attain him.

Hawes is the "B" version of Leonard at pennies on the dollar.

Note: I don't think 15 mill a year would be enough to acquire Leonard. At 15, I'd do it, but I think the number will be a shade near his max, which I'm guessing will be 20 mill or more on average.

I see. I am not sure about Leonard's price. You might be correct.

I think Hawes is not terrible. He has never lived up to expectations. Can't play defense. Runs with limp wrists. I don't see any developmental upside. I don't see how Hawes and Leonard compare at all unless you are pointing to his ability to stretch the floor, which I have seen glimpses of from time to time. But who knows, Maybe the Lakers trade for him and he knocks down some shots for us.

Maybe you're just addressing filling a positional need.

[VIPER8382]

Hawes is more like 75% of Leonard, but it isn't actually that close for 2 main reasons:

1. Right now the 75% comes from Hawes being about equal on offense, but half the player on defense (this may actually be being generous to Hawes). I saw somebody on here post some advanced defensive stats on Leonard that looked amazing, but I am still a bit hesitant though as I am sure there were some advanced stats that made Jordan Hill look like a superstar at one time. Regardless though the difference in value between the 2 comes at the defensive end, and the Lakers simply can't afford too many more players that aren't at least plus defenders, and it seems Leonard can be one, but Hawes simply isn't.

2. Leonard is 24 and just about to get his first taste of big minutes. Many feel he has the chance to really blossom, but at any rate it would be expected that he will be able to make noticeable improvements while Hawes will be lucky to maintain during the rest of his contract.

Then on top of that, and bringing us back on topic, Leonard would be a perfect 3rd big to take the remaining center minutes behind Whiteside and some of the remaining PF minutes behind Randle. Randle would need to improve in some key areas to make the Whiteside/Randle minutes work, but I actually really like the Whiteside/Leonard and Leonard/Randle big man pairings.