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2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (3-4)

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Who will win?

GS in 4
19
7%
GS in 5
62
22%
GS in 6
67
24%
GS in 7
38
13%
Cavs in 4
6
2%
Cavs in 5
4
1%
Cavs in 6
38
13%
Cavs in 7
49
17%
 
Total votes: 283

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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1021 » by ash_k » Wed Jun 8, 2016 8:29 am

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Top 25? You're joking, right?

Question for you:

Would you pick Draymond Green over any of the following 5 players?
KAT /LaMarcus Aldridge /Giannis Antetokounmpo/ Kyle Lowry/Brook Lopez(one of the most gifted offensive player at the 5, in years).

project Draymond without Curry and Klay. Draymond was still shutdown with the splash bro around against KD, Ibaka, Adams, Kanter,


Wait... you think Brook Lopez is better than Draymond Green? I don't even..

Draymond is easily a top 15 player. His work as a short roll man is second to none, as evidenced by all his triple doubles (including one in Game 6 of the finals last year) and he's now a two time runner up for DPOY.


so you could only pick one player from those 5:
check this list (about 20 players)
John Wall/Jimmy Butler/Paul George/DeMarcus Cousins/Blake Griffin/Anthony Davis/Carmelo Anthony/Russel Westbrook/Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins/Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/LeBron/KlayThom/James Harden/Curry/Drummond/DeMar DeRozan/Hassan Whiteside .

You would be hard pressed to pick Draymond over any of those ~20 players...

so yeah, Draymond is a "TOP25" if not TOP30....
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1022 » by Boogie! » Wed Jun 8, 2016 8:38 am

ash_k needs to stop right now. im not even a huge draymond fan, but to go on a tangent about stephen curry's impact or lack thereof and then talk about how brook lopez is better than draymond green - dude youre looking super crazy right now. like insane. just stop already. golden state is the best team in the league and stephen curry is the mvp for a reason. theyre gonna win another championship despite you finding endless ways to **** on their team. just stop already.
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1023 » by raptor jesus » Wed Jun 8, 2016 8:51 am

ash_k wrote:
raptor jesus wrote:
ash_k wrote:Question for you:

Would you pick Draymond Green over any of the following 5 players?
KAT /LaMarcus Aldridge /Giannis Antetokounmpo/ Kyle Lowry/Brook Lopez(one of the most gifted offensive player at the 5, in years).

project Draymond without Curry and Klay. Draymond was still shutdown with the splash bro around against KD, Ibaka, Adams, Kanter,


Wait... you think Brook Lopez is better than Draymond Green? I don't even..

Draymond is easily a top 15 player. His work as a short roll man is second to none, as evidenced by all his triple doubles (including one in Game 6 of the finals last year) and he's now a two time runner up for DPOY.


so you could only pick one player from those 5:
check this list (about 20 players)
John Wall/Jimmy Butler/Paul George/DeMarcus Cousins/Blake Griffin/Anthony Davis/Carmelo Anthony/Russel Westbrook/Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins/Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/LeBron/KlayThom/James Harden/Curry/Drummond/DeMar DeRozan/Hassan Whiteside .

You would be hard pressed to pick Draymond over any of those ~20 players...

so yeah, Draymond is a "TOP25" if not TOP30....


Wow haha. You should consider investing some time looking at statistics. Raw or advanced will show Draymond's value:

- top 10 in total boards and assists.
- top 20 in total steals and blocks.
- top 10 in win shares, vorp and box +/-.
- 2nd in triple doubles, DPOY runner up.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/715546762551758853[/tweet]
^^ Also had 100 3s.
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1024 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Jun 8, 2016 8:59 am

ash_k wrote:
raptor jesus wrote:
ash_k wrote:Question for you:

Would you pick Draymond Green over any of the following 5 players?
KAT /LaMarcus Aldridge /Giannis Antetokounmpo/ Kyle Lowry/Brook Lopez(one of the most gifted offensive player at the 5, in years).

project Draymond without Curry and Klay. Draymond was still shutdown with the splash bro around against KD, Ibaka, Adams, Kanter,


Wait... you think Brook Lopez is better than Draymond Green? I don't even..

Draymond is easily a top 15 player. His work as a short roll man is second to none, as evidenced by all his triple doubles (including one in Game 6 of the finals last year) and he's now a two time runner up for DPOY.


so you could only pick one player from those 5:
check this list (about 20 players)
John Wall/Jimmy Butler/Paul George/DeMarcus Cousins/Blake Griffin/Anthony Davis/Carmelo Anthony/Russel Westbrook/Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins/Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/LeBron/KlayThom/James Harden/Curry/Drummond/DeMar DeRozan/Hassan Whiteside .

You would be hard pressed to pick Draymond over any of those ~20 players...

so yeah, Draymond is a "TOP25" if not TOP30....


Ha ha I can't believe someone is suggesting you take these guys above Draymond.. :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1025 » by ash_k » Wed Jun 8, 2016 9:59 am

raptor jesus wrote:
ash_k wrote:
raptor jesus wrote:
Wait... you think Brook Lopez is better than Draymond Green? I don't even..

Draymond is easily a top 15 player. His work as a short roll man is second to none, as evidenced by all his triple doubles (including one in Game 6 of the finals last year) and he's now a two time runner up for DPOY.


so you could only pick one player from those 5:
check this list (about 20 players)
John Wall/Jimmy Butler/Paul George/DeMarcus Cousins/Blake Griffin/Anthony Davis/Carmelo Anthony/Russel Westbrook/Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins/Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/LeBron/KlayThom/James Harden/Curry/Drummond/DeMar DeRozan/Hassan Whiteside .

You would be hard pressed to pick Draymond over any of those ~20 players...

so yeah, Draymond is a "TOP25" if not TOP30....


Wow haha. You should consider investing some time looking at statistics. Raw or advanced will show Draymond's value:

- top 10 in total boards and assists.
- top 20 in total steals and blocks.
- top 10 in win shares, vorp and box +/-.
- 2nd in triple doubles, DPOY runner up.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/715546762551758853[/tweet]
^^ Also had 100 3s.


Great numbers surrounded by the 2 best 3-point shooters the NBA has ever seen.

to start a team you would pick him over Andrew Wiggins over KAT?, would you pick him over the Greek freak?


About - runner up to DPOY..are you telling me than Draymond is a better on the ball defender than Iguodala ? than Klay Thompson
You should ask Greg Monroe about Draymond's defense.

another one: is he better than Kyrie Irving? ...Draymond is overrated. shutdown against OKC and now all of sudden with Kevin Love/TT around is on the verge of MVP
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Post#1026 » by Vlade Divac » Wed Jun 8, 2016 12:51 pm

Not really relevant for this thread but really funny

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFz1ihNOCg[/youtube]
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1027 » by Blood Orange » Wed Jun 8, 2016 2:26 pm

ash_k wrote:
raptor jesus wrote:
ash_k wrote:Question for you:

Would you pick Draymond Green over any of the following 5 players?
KAT /LaMarcus Aldridge /Giannis Antetokounmpo/ Kyle Lowry/Brook Lopez(one of the most gifted offensive player at the 5, in years).

project Draymond without Curry and Klay. Draymond was still shutdown with the splash bro around against KD, Ibaka, Adams, Kanter,


Wait... you think Brook Lopez is better than Draymond Green? I don't even..

Draymond is easily a top 15 player. His work as a short roll man is second to none, as evidenced by all his triple doubles (including one in Game 6 of the finals last year) and he's now a two time runner up for DPOY.


so you could only pick one player from those 5:
check this list (about 20 players)
John Wall/Jimmy Butler/Paul George/DeMarcus Cousins/Blake Griffin/Anthony Davis/Carmelo Anthony/Russel Westbrook/Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins/Damian Lillard/Kawhi Leonard/LeBron/KlayThom/James Harden/Curry/Drummond/DeMar DeRozan/Hassan Whiteside .

You would be hard pressed to pick Draymond over any of those ~20 players...

so yeah, Draymond is a "TOP25" if not TOP30....


I'd take Draymond over those guys, any day. Draymond is a really underrated 2 way player. Guards 1-5. Can shoot, pass, handle the ball.
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Post#1028 » by MavCarter » Wed Jun 8, 2016 4:52 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/740586620756332544[/tweet]
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1029 » by MavCarter » Wed Jun 8, 2016 4:56 pm

Lebron needs to go off for 40 tonight
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Post#1030 » by peast » Wed Jun 8, 2016 5:05 pm

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peast wrote:Most (Please Use More Appropriate Word) post of the day, congratulations! Not even arguably...


It really isn't arguable. In terms of impact on the court-- win shares, VORP, offensive and defensive plus and minus. Lowry has it over Klay. And the numbers aren't really close.

Man, for such a lucky fanbase, GS fans still are so insecure. Do some of you guys really go through every forum looking for EVERY mention of GS? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

I also feel the same about Raps fans who do the same thing though. I know they're out there. But I wouldn't know since I DGAF about other forums' opinions.

Another stat hipster :nonono: What about Curry over Lowry only arguably? Really? Whats to argue about? Try it, Im listening. And no, this is the only forum (Raptors board) I posted anything in years. But only because of JV. So, I guess I don't go through every forum looking for pathetic GS fans posts. And yes, Thompson is better player than Lowry. By alot too. You may argue offense (barely), but defense is more than half important for a successful, winning player. Thompson is one of the best while Lowry is one if the worst perimeter defenders in the league. Erozan is even worse tho.
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1031 » by ZoomZoomRaps » Wed Jun 8, 2016 5:06 pm

McGregFan wrote:Lebron needs to go off for 40 tonight

When was the last time Lebron went HAM for 40?

I doubt he can get 40 even if he wants to. RS, yes but Playoffs, it's tough especially with DG and Iggy guarding him. But he HAS to score. He needs that killer instinct that MJ and Kobe have to win when Love's out.
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1032 » by Boogie! » Wed Jun 8, 2016 5:46 pm

I hate how people act like in order for the cavs yo win it's just a matter of LeBron stepping up and scoring 100 points... Why do people still not realize that basketball is about having a good team... LeBron can score 50 and the cavs could still lose simply because theyll get owned defensively and if LeBron does score Thar much it's probably at the expense of all the other open 3 point looks.
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Post#1033 » by VinBaker6 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 5:50 pm

Cavs might have a chance with Love out.
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Post#1034 » by 6ixSideSniper » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:01 pm

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Geddy wrote:Kind of OT, but that fan that got ejected from the Raptors vs Cavs game is the guy that got shot at Yonge and Eglinton today. Apparently he was a gangster from the Vancouver area and the killing looks targeted.


Not questioning it, but I was curious how you knew it was the same person? Pretty crazy coincidence.


Always amazing what google can dig for you in seconds!:

Sukh’s father, Parminder, is wanted on an Interpol warrant on drug-smuggling charges laid in India. He said he is innocent.

Sukh Deo was an avid fan of the Toronto Raptors. Last month, he was ejected from his courtside seat at Game 4 of the Raptors’ playoff series against the Cleveland Cavaliers after heckling the referees.

“All our kids, they watched him on that day,” Sohan Deo said. “He was a really big fan of that team.”


http://www.timescolonist.com/news/b-c/former-b-c-gangster-killed-in-toronto-hit-1.2273123#sthash.0ZkynYKE.dpuf


There wasn't any info on google about that connection at the time when I searched for it, but thanks for being a smart ass :wink:
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Post#1035 » by 0 - 100 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 6:08 pm

Cavs will be desperate. Their first win in these finals.
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Post#1036 » by TheBatman » Wed Jun 8, 2016 7:04 pm

LeBron needs a Boston game 6 showing tonight. With Love out they should consider playing him at the 4.
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Post#1038 » by raptorstime » Wed Jun 8, 2016 8:32 pm

No love, mozgov sighting?
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Re: 2016 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (2-0) 

Post#1039 » by supra2k8 » Wed Jun 8, 2016 10:00 pm

McGregFan wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/740586620756332544[/tweet]


now cavs have a chance to win tonight
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