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Like I said I'd love to have Nainggolan, and he seems to be up for a move to Chelsea and Conte loves him, so I think that should be one of Conte's first moves. As for Kante, I don't see this happening mainly because by the time the Conte takes up Chelsa duties, we'd already be in July and I feel that if he leaves Leicester would prefer to get their transfer business out of the way so they can fully prepare themselves for the season.
I also agree with your sell list plus Oscar. Oscar just hasn't developed since he arrived here and I think it's time to cut our losses with him, especially if a Chinese club comes in with a huge offer like in January. I'd give Van Ginkel another chance in preseason and see if he can hack it and I think Conte will like Matic so I doubt he'll be sold off that easily. No need to discuss about Pato/Falcao.
I'd definitely keep Kenedy, I think he can be a decent contributor next year whether as cover for injuries or spot minutes in cup games at LM or LB. Or if Conte decides to go for a 3-man back, he can easily play on the left side.
Absolutely yes to promoting Ake/Baker to the first team and giving them a go, Ake proved last year that he can hack the PL at LB which is one of our weakest spots and Baker has done nothing but perform to at least warrant a spot in the first team, if RLC can get a spot surely Baker who's actually produced can get some decent minutes. I'm not so sure about Chalobah, he's stagnated in the last couple of years but he can definitely play that Kante role for us just in front of the defence should Conte decide to upgrade internally.
Well Terry/Ivanovic can't really contribute to the high press system due to their age, so it might be tough to have a four-man defence with Conte, but they can be useful should he implement a 3-man defence. Which is why I feel like Conte might not go with his usual high pressing system in order to accommodate JT.
I'd be surprised if Hector/Omeruo/Djilobodji are with the team next year. Both Djilobodji and Hector had nice years last year and Hector can double as a DM but it's just hard to see them not loaned out or sold next year.
I also agree with your sell list plus Oscar. Oscar just hasn't developed since he arrived here and I think it's time to cut our losses with him, especially if a Chinese club comes in with a huge offer like in January. I'd give Van Ginkel another chance in preseason and see if he can hack it and I think Conte will like Matic so I doubt he'll be sold off that easily. No need to discuss about Pato/Falcao.
I'd definitely keep Kenedy, I think he can be a decent contributor next year whether as cover for injuries or spot minutes in cup games at LM or LB. Or if Conte decides to go for a 3-man back, he can easily play on the left side.
Absolutely yes to promoting Ake/Baker to the first team and giving them a go, Ake proved last year that he can hack the PL at LB which is one of our weakest spots and Baker has done nothing but perform to at least warrant a spot in the first team, if RLC can get a spot surely Baker who's actually produced can get some decent minutes. I'm not so sure about Chalobah, he's stagnated in the last couple of years but he can definitely play that Kante role for us just in front of the defence should Conte decide to upgrade internally.
Well Terry/Ivanovic can't really contribute to the high press system due to their age, so it might be tough to have a four-man defence with Conte, but they can be useful should he implement a 3-man defence. Which is why I feel like Conte might not go with his usual high pressing system in order to accommodate JT.
I'd be surprised if Hector/Omeruo/Djilobodji are with the team next year. Both Djilobodji and Hector had nice years last year and Hector can double as a DM but it's just hard to see them not loaned out or sold next year.
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Good stuff as always treiz.
I guess I had assumed that with our aging backline we'd be less likely to play a 3-man back line. You suggest the opposite. Would we be better off with 3 at the back with the slow legs of Terry etc..? If so, were you thinking 3-5-2 or 3-3-4, similar to some of Conte's previous teams? Who would be your backline for next year Ivan-Cahill-Terry (assuming Zouma is out half the season)? Who would be your wingbacks? Can Azpi function as a wingback? Can we turn Willian into a wingback?
In a 3-5-2 where does Hazard play? As the 2nd striker? I think my biggest concern is where does Hazard fit in that formation. Maybe moving into to a 2nd striker role would have him looking for the goal more often.
I was really intrigued by what I saw from Chalobah, Baker and RLC at the U-21 tournament. Granted the level of comp is way down, but those 3 seem to have a very good understanding and chemistry together. That's one of the reasons I'd like to see all three including Chalobah stick with the first team next year.
I'd be totally fine keeping Kenedy and MvG next year, just thought Kenedy could maybe use more game experience for a year in the PL, which he could get with a solid loan. Then again, all it would take is a disastrous loan to set him back.
Kante is my dream acquisition this summer. I don't know why I like him so much, but I do. I love watching him play. Probably because Makelele was my favorite Chelsea player and Kante is about as close to him in style around these days. I think he'd be perfect next to Fabregas.
I guess I had assumed that with our aging backline we'd be less likely to play a 3-man back line. You suggest the opposite. Would we be better off with 3 at the back with the slow legs of Terry etc..? If so, were you thinking 3-5-2 or 3-3-4, similar to some of Conte's previous teams? Who would be your backline for next year Ivan-Cahill-Terry (assuming Zouma is out half the season)? Who would be your wingbacks? Can Azpi function as a wingback? Can we turn Willian into a wingback?
In a 3-5-2 where does Hazard play? As the 2nd striker? I think my biggest concern is where does Hazard fit in that formation. Maybe moving into to a 2nd striker role would have him looking for the goal more often.
I was really intrigued by what I saw from Chalobah, Baker and RLC at the U-21 tournament. Granted the level of comp is way down, but those 3 seem to have a very good understanding and chemistry together. That's one of the reasons I'd like to see all three including Chalobah stick with the first team next year.
I'd be totally fine keeping Kenedy and MvG next year, just thought Kenedy could maybe use more game experience for a year in the PL, which he could get with a solid loan. Then again, all it would take is a disastrous loan to set him back.
Kante is my dream acquisition this summer. I don't know why I like him so much, but I do. I love watching him play. Probably because Makelele was my favorite Chelsea player and Kante is about as close to him in style around these days. I think he'd be perfect next to Fabregas.
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Guess we can rule out Rudiger as an option this summer at CB. Tore his ACL yesterday. Wow.
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fatlever wrote:Good stuff as always treiz.
I guess I had assumed that with our aging backline we'd be less likely to play a 3-man back line. You suggest the opposite. Would we be better off with 3 at the back with the slow legs of Terry etc..? If so, were you thinking 3-5-2 or 3-3-4, similar to some of Conte's previous teams? Who would be your backline for next year Ivan-Cahill-Terry (assuming Zouma is out half the season)? Who would be your wingbacks? Can Azpi function as a wingback? Can we turn Willian into a wingback?
In a 3-5-2 where does Hazard play? As the 2nd striker? I think my biggest concern is where does Hazard fit in that formation. Maybe moving into to a 2nd striker role would have him looking for the goal more often.
If he doesn't have the player, Conte won't play with the 3-5-2. He only use the 3-5-2 so he can play his best player in their best position.
You guys probably play a 4-3-2-1 (and buy 1/2 FB a MF and a striker).
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fatlever wrote:Good stuff as always treiz.
I guess I had assumed that with our aging backline we'd be less likely to play a 3-man back line. You suggest the opposite. Would we be better off with 3 at the back with the slow legs of Terry etc..? If so, were you thinking 3-5-2 or 3-3-4, similar to some of Conte's previous teams? Who would be your backline for next year Ivan-Cahill-Terry (assuming Zouma is out half the season)? Who would be your wingbacks? Can Azpi function as a wingback? Can we turn Willian into a wingback?
In a 3-5-2 where does Hazard play? As the 2nd striker? I think my biggest concern is where does Hazard fit in that formation. Maybe moving into to a 2nd striker role would have him looking for the goal more often.
I was really intrigued by what I saw from Chalobah, Baker and RLC at the U-21 tournament. Granted the level of comp is way down, but those 3 seem to have a very good understanding and chemistry together. That's one of the reasons I'd like to see all three including Chalobah stick with the first team next year.
I'd be totally fine keeping Kenedy and MvG next year, just thought Kenedy could maybe use more game experience for a year in the PL, which he could get with a solid loan. Then again, all it would take is a disastrous loan to set him back.
Kante is my dream acquisition this summer. I don't know why I like him so much, but I do. I love watching him play. Probably because Makelele was my favorite Chelsea player and Kante is about as close to him in style around these days. I think he'd be perfect next to Fabregas.
A 3 man defence and a DM in front of them to shield and distribute could compensate for their lack of pace. I like the idea of JT playing as a sweeper too considering his passing range. At the moment yeah it has to be Ivan as LCB, JT as the sweeper and Cahill as the RCB. Conte might try and bring some of the loanees back for a tryout in this system for the preseason but those 3 and someone shielding them should be able to do the job. But then again trying out a completely new system with 3 30-year olds might not be ideal.
I'd try a 3-4-2-1. With Azpi and maybe even Cuadrado (should he decide to stay) as the wingbacks or even Kenedy/Rahman on the left side. At least in this system their defensive deficiencies can be mitigated as they'll always have at least 2 people behind them. I'd play Willian and Hazard behind the striker and have them roam the attacking third with Willian occasionally dropping back, sort of like a poor mans Vidal during his time with Conte. In this scenario I'd love a Kante-type to roam the defensive third and shield the defence and have Cesc play the Pirlo role but with a lot more mobility.
I agree that Kante would be perfect next to Cesc, but I'm just not sure Leicester would be willing to sell unless there was a buyout clause there or we severely overpay. Plus with Conte away at the Euros, I'd assume that Leicester would like to get their transfer business early and so by the time he gets started it might be too little too late. I'm still hoping for Nainggolan to come through though, think he'd be perfect in a 3-man midfield with Cesc and a DM.
I'm all for them 3 getting the promotion and sticking with the first team next year, but I'm just down on Chalobah. I certainly hope that he's learned a few things in Naples as he could be the answer to the DM problems.
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keep your hands off Kanté.
Anyway why would he want to join a team not in the CL?
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Anyway why would he want to join a team not in the CL?
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Kante and Mahrez will fit into Chelsea and Conte's plans and Vardy would be perfect for United. If not this season, then definitely they'll move year later.
Only UCL will hold them back and don't know if Leicester can live up to the next season's expectation. I see them finishing at 8.
Only UCL will hold them back and don't know if Leicester can live up to the next season's expectation. I see them finishing at 8.
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None of them are going to Chelsea. Much Bigger teams are interested.
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HIF wrote:None of them are going to Chelsea. Much Bigger teams are interested.
Lmao. Yea like norwich right?
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DD12 wrote:HIF wrote:None of them are going to Chelsea. Much Bigger teams are interested.
Lmao. Yea like norwich right?
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I remember that Gala took one of our reject players a couple of years back Sol Bamba. We called him bombscare so he probably fit in well with your lot. So I don't think you'd know about prem level players. RM are interested in both Kanté and Mahrez.
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HIF wrote:DD12 wrote:HIF wrote:None of them are going to Chelsea. Much Bigger teams are interested.
Lmao. Yea like norwich right?
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I remember that Gala took one of our reject players a couple of years back Sol Bamba. We called him bombscare so he probably fit in well with your lot. So I don't think you'd know about prem level players. RM are interested in both Kanté and Mahrez.
Who is Sol Bamba? Never played for Gala. Beginning stage of alzheimer?
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I believe he played for Trabzonspor, not Gala, that's probably who he's thinking of.
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old man not very good at banter
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DD12 wrote:HIF wrote:DD12 wrote:
Lmao. Yea like norwich right?
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I remember that Gala took one of our reject players a couple of years back Sol Bamba. We called him bombscare so he probably fit in well with your lot. So I don't think you'd know about prem level players. RM are interested in both Kanté and Mahrez.
Who is Sol Bamba? Never played for Gala. Beginning stage of alzheimer?
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You're right;
Trasbonzpor - these low level league teams are all the same to me.
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HIF wrote:DD12 wrote:HIF wrote:
I remember that Gala took one of our reject players a couple of years back Sol Bamba. We called him bombscare so he probably fit in well with your lot. So I don't think you'd know about prem level players. RM are interested in both Kanté and Mahrez.
Who is Sol Bamba? Never played for Gala. Beginning stage of alzheimer?
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You're right;
Trasbonzpor - these low level league teams are all the same to me.
One of the Low level league team won uefa cup, super cup, made quarter finals twice and semi finals etc
What has your team accomplished other in general than being a relegation zone team?
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DD12 wrote:HIF wrote:DD12 wrote:
Who is Sol Bamba? Never played for Gala. Beginning stage of alzheimer?
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You're right;
Trasbonzpor - these low level league teams are all the same to me.
One of the Low level league team won uefa cup, super cup, made quarter finals twice and semi finals etc
What has your team accomplished other in general than being a relegation zone team?
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My team has won the third, second and top level English league in the last few years. I KNOW I support a small club in a big league. The sooner you realise your team is just a big fish in a small pond - like PSG - the sooner you'll have less of a small penis syndrome.
Some of us support our clubs whether they are good or bad, small or big, successful or unsuccessful. Simply because we were born there and love football. You'll see I've never cracked Leicester up to be the best team but I sure do enjoy seeing some supporters who can't handle that their teams are not the best in the world.
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you just described every english fan everybody ever met
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real fans.
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Thoughts on Lukaku's possible return to Chelsea? I think it's just Sky hyping it up. I think if he can put it together he can be a world class striker, he looked unmotivated at times for Everton, which is to be expected at a sub-midtable team.
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chelsea no good for any striker's career, should go to psg to replace ibra
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