The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

[JMac1]

I hope the Celts pass or someone trades up to get Murray. I am glad people are down on Bender. Once I saw him on the perimeter switching his base left to right like Patrick Peterson, I was sold! Just that D, playmaking passing and 3pt stroke would suffice. Again if he can develop a left and create his own shot, we'd have two huge building blocks at only 18 and 19 years old, crazy!

[bwgood77]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Well if that's all true than I'm pretty happy with that. Or he could have been reading here and changed his tune.

But that absolutely makes sense. If Bender is gone and you can get a worthy vet and a 7-10 pick, DO IT, because you likely still get the PF you want anyway, if not, decide between Murray and Hield. On Pelton's chat he mentioned something along the lines of that Hield isn't nearly as bad of a defender as people suggest and that he's really active defensively. I'm never opposed to light's out shooters, and have gone back and forth between Murray and Hield a few times. Been more on board with Murray lately, but if we would play Booker and Hield together at 2/3 at times, than that works, and probably doesn't hurt us nearly as much as having Murray from a defensive perspective.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Buddy Hield screams Sarver and marketing. No way would I draft a 4 year senior who projects to be the next Jodie Meeks because he's more "ready" than the 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, I what does this mean for Knight if the Suns actually want to take a combo guard?

[letsgosuns]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Buddy Hield screams Sarver and marketing. No way would I draft a 4 year senior who projects to be the next Jodie Meeks because he's more "ready" than the 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, I what does this mean for Knight if the Suns actually want to take a combo guard?

Hopefully they trade Knight. I see no place for him on this team at all. Knight is an overpaid, undersized, turnover prone streaky gunner that takes away playing time from the younger players.

[bwgood77]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Buddy Hield screams Sarver and marketing. No way would I draft a 4 year senior who projects to be the next Jodie Meeks because he's more "ready" than the 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, I what does this mean for Knight if the Suns actually want to take a combo guard?

Same goes for Knight with Murray. They really shouldn't take a guard, but mentioning all these guys as possibilities is fine because maybe some other exec with a pick 7-10 hoping a guy slides gets too eager and trades something of value to move up. Hopefully it's Bender or trade down. And if not, take best PF....or highest on your board. I think Murray would have trade value though, and probably Hield as well.

[RaisingArizona]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Buddy Hield screams Sarver and marketing. No way would I draft a 4 year senior who projects to be the next Jodie Meeks because he's more "ready" than the 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, I what does this mean for Knight if the Suns actually want to take a combo guard?

Jodie Meeks? I guess you haven't been paying attention.

[darealjuice]

Devin Booker can't play the 3 right now, he'll get taken advantage of on defense every time. Unless he put on like 20 pounds with that inch, he needs to stick to the 2. I don't really want Hield, it seemed like their biggest justification for it on the show was that he can sell jersey's, is one of the most ready to play prospects, and that Devin Booker can shift down to the 3. The problem is he was a bad defender last year against Shooting Guards, and Small Forwards will just be bigger, stronger, and just as (or more) athletic.

[Kerrsed]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Looking at those teams in the 7-10 spots, I dont know what young veteran we would even want.

Denver (#7) - Gallo? Faried? Chandler? I'd pass
Sactown (#8) - Cousins, but it would take a lot more than a pick change to get him. WCS?
Toronto (#9) - ???????????
Milwaukee (#10) - They are not trading Antetokounmpo/Parker/Middleton, so that leaves Henson? Monroe?

[SunsFanSSOL]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Buddy Hield screams Sarver and marketing. No way would I draft a 4 year senior who projects to be the next Jodie Meeks because he's more "ready" than the 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, I what does this mean for Knight if the Suns actually want to take a combo guard?

Jodie Meeks? I guess you haven't been paying attention. Too focused on the doyers?

Jodie Meeks' Junior Year: 23.7 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 1.8 APG, 7.4 Win Shares on 46/41/90 shooting

Buddy Hield's Senior Year: 25 PPG, 5.7 RPG, 2.0 APG, 7.6 Win Shares on 50/46/88 shooting

Both are one dimensional combo guards who found/will find difficulty in translating their scoring to the next level. Hield is riding the Curry wave right now, and even in a weak class he's not a top 3 player. Low ceiling, one dimensional, 22 years old, pass...

[letsgosuns]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Looking at those teams in the 7-10 spots, I dont know what young veteran we would even want.

Denver (#7) - Gallo? Faried? Chandler? I'd pass
Sactown (#8) - Cousins, but it would take a lot more than a pick change to get him. WCS?
Toronto (#9) - ???????????
Milwaukee (#10) - They are not trading Antetokounmpo/Parker/Middleton, so that leaves Henson? Monroe?

Yeah I have no idea. Based on what I read about Bender, Murray, and whoever else versus who might be available from those teams, keeping the pick sounds better. Unless one of the lower lottery teams is absolutely in love with Dunn or someone else and is willing to trade a major piece to swap picks.

[Cactus Jack]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Good news on Booker growing. Would love to draft Hield...

Hield

[alphagorilla]

Minny #5, Rubio for Tucker and Bledsoe, would you do it?

[bwgood77]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Looking at those teams in the 7-10 spots, I dont know what young veteran we would even want.

Denver (#7) - Gallo? Faried? Chandler? I'd pass
Sactown (#8) - Cousins, but it would take a lot more than a pick change to get him. WCS?
Toronto (#9) - ???????????
Milwaukee (#10) - They are not trading Antetokounmpo/Parker/Middleton, so that leaves Henson? Monroe?

What if Sacramento, extremely desperate to get Dunn, offered #8 and next year's unprotected or even top 3 protected pick for 4? Or one more likely, but probably one people wouldn't want to do...Utah offers Lyles and 12 for 4.

Keep in mind. Lyles is extremely solid, tough, a good rebounder, only 20 years old, actually hit over 38% from 3. He's a little under the radar playing with Towns/WCS as a freshman and then behind Favors and Gobert.

I'm guessing he would be in conversation for top 5 pick this year had he stayed in college a year and probably top PF on board after Simmons (and maybe Bender). Probably could start at PF immediately for us though and we'd still have 12 and 13.

[bwgood77]

Minny #5, Rubio for Tucker and Bledsoe, would you do it?

They wouldn't. Most or all of the trade proposals you come up with our trades the other team would never consider.

[MathiasPW]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Looking at those teams in the 7-10 spots, I dont know what young veteran we would even want.

Denver (#7) - Gallo? Faried? Chandler? I'd pass
Sactown (#8) - Cousins, but it would take a lot more than a pick change to get him. WCS?
Toronto (#9) - ???????????
Milwaukee (#10) - They are not trading Antetokounmpo/Parker/Middleton, so that leaves Henson? Monroe?

What if Sacramento, extremely desperate to get Dunn, offered #8 and next year's unprotected or even top 3 protected pick for 4? Or one more likely, but probably one people wouldn't want to do...Utah offers Lyles and 12 for 4.

Keep in mind. Lyles is extremely solid, tough, a good rebounder, only 20 years old, actually hit over 38% from 3. He's a little under the radar playing with Towns/WCS as a freshman and then behind Favors and Gobert.

I'm guessing he would be in conversation for top 5 pick this year had he stayed in college a year and probably top PF on board after Simmons (and maybe Bender). Probably could start at PF immediately for us though and we'd still have 12 and 13.

#4 for Lyles is a good trade. I liked what I saw from him and he would probably rank around that spot in this year's trade.

[Cactus Jack]

Minny #5, Rubio for Tucker and Bledsoe, would you do it?

Yes absolutely. Minnesota wouldnt.

[darealjuice]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Looking at those teams in the 7-10 spots, I dont know what young veteran we would even want.

Denver (#7) - Gallo? Faried? Chandler? I'd pass
Sactown (#8) - Cousins, but it would take a lot more than a pick change to get him. WCS?
Toronto (#9) - ???????????
Milwaukee (#10) - They are not trading Antetokounmpo/Parker/Middleton, so that leaves Henson? Monroe?

What if Sacramento, extremely desperate to get Dunn, offered #8 and next year's unprotected or even top 3 protected pick for 4? Or one more likely, but probably one people wouldn't want to do...Utah offers Lyles and 12 for 4.

Keep in mind. Lyles is extremely solid, tough, a good rebounder, only 20 years old, actually hit over 38% from 3. He's a little under the radar playing with Towns/WCS as a freshman and then behind Favors and Gobert.

I'm guessing he would be in conversation for top 5 pick this year had he stayed in college a year and probably top PF on board after Simmons (and maybe Bender). Probably could start out PF immediately for us though and we'd still have 12 and 13.

I don't know that the Kings can trade their 2017 pick. They traded the rights to the pick Top 10 protected to the Bulls, and Philly has the right to swap picks with them if they're in the Top 10. The only way they have their own pick is if they're in the Top 10 but pick higher than the Sixers (i.e. Sixers pick 5th, Kings pick 6th). With that said, I'd think about #8 and the 2017 First Rounder from the Kings if it is possible and they don't give us a terrible protection like they did with the Bulls lol. I'm not sure if I'd do Lyles and 12 for 4 though, I like Lyles but don't know if he's that valuable. Then again, it's a little tough for me to say I'd prefer Murray/Brown/Dunn/Hield over Lyles and Baldwin/Valentine/Luwawu/Ellenson/whoever.

[JMac1]

Gambo said some really interesting things today about the Suns. The first thing he said was that the Suns are absolutely open to trading the pick and would be willing to trade down to the 7, 8, 9, or 10 slot if they can get back a good young veteran player plus the pick in return for their own pick. Now assuming the Suns keep the pick, he said the Suns are narrowing down their choices and he believes they will choose between Bender and Jamal Murray. The really shocking thing he said was that the Suns are also now considering Buddy Hield because Booker has actually grown since they drafted him and he is now 6'7" in shoes. So the Suns think they could have Booker play some small forward alongside Hield and Bledsoe in the backcourt. He mentioned the Suns are looking at picking their power forward with the 13th pick and want to pick a guard/wing player with the 4th pick unless it is Bender who they take. Also, Bender and Murray are supposed to work out for the Suns next week.

Thanks, got in the car and the only thing I heard was Harrison Barnes was a target. I missed the entire talk I was in the car this AM for hours and nothing but the Cardinals, even around 1:30 our time Glad we finally got some solid info.

If we can play Booker at the 3 and Hield at the 2

The bold is exactly what I said we should do..........damn right I am tooting

Edit:what if we draft Bender at 4, the what at 13?

[TeamTragic]

Minny #5, Rubio for Tucker and Bledsoe, would you do it?

Why would the Wolves make that trade?

[Cactus Jack]

If we can play Booker at the 3 and Hield at the 2

The bold is exactly what I said we should do..........damn right I am tooting

Yes, please.

Talk about lights out shooters. Splash brothers who?