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Post#381 » by Undefeated » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:11 pm

Patman wrote:My apologies. Yes, the women have a solid chance. I don't think they're lacking support, though, as a team. There was a lot of buzz during the Pan Ams and FIBA America's. And it will be even bigger in the Olympics, that I have no doubt.

There's little buzz between tournaments because we don't follow the women individually, like we do the men. If that's what you mean, then you're absolutely right. There is much more attention paid to the NBA, men's NCAA, and EuroLeague than the WNBA, women's NCAA, and other women's pro leagues. That will be the case regardless of how much more successful the SWNT is than the SMNT.


I just don't like it when people disregard the SWNT just because so and so might not participate in Rios thereby increasing their chance where even with full participation the SWNT would still be a heavy medal favorite. But that's my bias because of how I am involved with their program. I agree, but my point is there was not even enough discussion about the SWNT even during last year's Pan Ams and FIBA Americas. It doesn't even have to be about roster selection or following players individually but just general hoops talk involving the team. Everything is always about the SMNT program yet they have not reached the success the SWNT has. But hey I guess not everyone is a hoops junkie.
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Post#382 » by bozothepope » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:30 pm

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YourBuddy wrote:The hate in this thread is hilarious. Same ones will be begging him to play for the Raptors when he is a UFA.


We will be tweeting this thread to him if/when he becomes one... in 2025 or whatever it is...


Ha -- like he runs his own twitter. All of his tweets are ads.
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Post#383 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:32 pm

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urinesane wrote:
YourBuddy wrote:The hate in this thread is hilarious. Same ones will be begging him to play for the Raptors when he is a UFA.


We will be tweeting this thread to him if/when he becomes one... in 2025 or whatever it is...


Ha -- like he runs his own twitter. All of his tweets are ads.


By the time it happens I'm sure robot butlers will be running all of our twitter accounts.

May want to brew a pot of coffee, Wiggins will be in MN for a while.

Would you guys be mad at him if he were a Raptor and skipped the Olympics to improve for their next season?

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Of course you wouldn't be.
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Post#384 » by Mattd97 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:45 pm

urinesane wrote:
bozothepope wrote:
urinesane wrote:
We will be tweeting this thread to him if/when he becomes one... in 2025 or whatever it is...


Ha -- like he runs his own twitter. All of his tweets are ads.


By the time it happens I'm sure robot butle8rs will be running all of our twitter accounts.

May want to brew a pot of coffee, Wiggins will be in MN for a while.

Would you guys be mad at him if he were a Raptor and skipped the Olympics to improve for their next season?

Spoiler:
Of course you wouldn't be.


1. The majority of this thread is a reaction to the long list of absences this year and what the cause is and the effect of it is. It's mostly only a bunch of random Minny fans on here talking about wiggins.

2. The majority of this thread is proud of a toronto Raptor signing up to play for Canada this summer instead of staying home to somehow improve his game by doing drills instead of being in a training camp and tournament for a few weeks of a long off season.
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Post#385 » by Inevitable » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:54 pm

I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread
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Post#386 » by YourBuddy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:14 pm

Inevitable wrote:I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread


This is pretty ironic considering how insecure Raps fans are about being recognized as a fanbase.
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Post#387 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:19 pm

Mattd97 wrote:
urinesane wrote:
bozothepope wrote:
Ha -- like he runs his own twitter. All of his tweets are ads.


By the time it happens I'm sure robot butle8rs will be running all of our twitter accounts.

May want to brew a pot of coffee, Wiggins will be in MN for a while.

Would you guys be mad at him if he were a Raptor and skipped the Olympics to improve for their next season?

Spoiler:
Of course you wouldn't be.


1. The majority of this thread is a reaction to the long list of absences this year and what the cause is and the effect of it is. It's mostly only a bunch of random Minny fans on here talking about wiggins.

2. The majority of this thread is proud of a toronto Raptor signing up to play for Canada this summer instead of staying home to somehow improve his game by doing drills instead of being in a training camp and tournament for a few weeks of a long off season.


You must be selectively reading, I see a lot of butthurt over Wiggins making a decision that many other players have made with much less backlash.

Players do not add pieces to their game by playing in tournies with teams they don't usually play with. Also "doing drills" is a lot more useful for adding skills than simply playing in games. It's pretty common knowledge that players add wrinkles to their game in the offseason.

You don't add skills/fix deficiencies by playing in meaningless games, you do it by drilling them over and over until they are second nature.
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Post#388 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:21 pm

Inevitable wrote:I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread


Pretty funny that your team's slogan is "We the North"...

Spoiler:
Toronto latitude: 43.65

Minneapolis latitude: 44.98


What do you know?
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Post#389 » by Inevitable » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:22 pm

YourBuddy wrote:
Inevitable wrote:I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread


This is pretty ironic considering how insecure Raps fans are about being recognized as a fanbase.

Y'all are canvassing a foreign board trying to protect his reputation, who's insecure now?
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Post#390 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:22 pm

Inevitable wrote:
YourBuddy wrote:
Inevitable wrote:I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread


This is pretty ironic considering how insecure Raps fans are about being recognized as a fanbase.

Y'all are canvassing a foreign board trying to protect his reputation, who's insecure now?


We're just here for the salty tears. Minnesotans collect them to melt the ice on their sidewalks in the winter.

Had you guys handled Wiggins announcement like adults, we wouldn't be here.
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Post#391 » by YourBuddy » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:27 pm

Inevitable wrote:
YourBuddy wrote:
Inevitable wrote:I didn't know Minnesota had NBA fans till I visited this thread


This is pretty ironic considering how insecure Raps fans are about being recognized as a fanbase.

Y'all are canvassing a foreign board trying to protect his reputation, who's insecure now?


What in my post is defending Wiggins. The comedy I found in the hatred of this board for their hometown hero, or that they would be the same ones welcoming him back with open arms if he were a UFA.
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Post#392 » by Calinks » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:09 pm

Don't appreciate the nastiness but it is what it is. In a year, no one will really care about this. I get it, fans are upset. Team Canada has a shot at being something really good and Canadians were looking forward to getting some acclaim. I was very much looking forward to seeing this team too and being entertained. The realities are though that many players are nervous about Zika. If they wind up going to the Olympics its something they have to worry about. There are lots of executives these days who do not want players to play on the national teams too.

Someone like Wiggins does have a lot to work on and he is being positioned to be a go to scorer in this league. The championship line was poorly used, they should have stuck with playoffs but yes this team has the goal of being a good team next season and that is a daunting task in west. It makes sense for Wiggins to concentrate on that and not risk injury, sickness, energy, or time participating in two off season tournaments. North Americans don't feel the need as strongly to have to represent their countries as so many European teams do either. Team USA had to put A LOT of work in to get to where it is now where you have people actually wanting to go.

Canada will have its time. Maybe its not this year but when the worlds come around again I think many more stars will be there and the new kids too. Its still on the way up, its probably just not happening now. Again, they messed up when they lost last summer, that was their best chance to seal it. Even with a good Canadian team there is no guarantee they would have made the Olympics. They are young and still learning how to win.
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Post#393 » by Senor Waffles » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:43 pm

Calinks wrote:Don't appreciate the nastiness but it is what it is. In a year, no one will really care about this. I get it, fans are upset. Team Canada has a shot at being something really good and Canadians were looking forward to getting some acclaim. I was very much looking forward to seeing this team too and being entertained. The realities are though that many players are nervous about Zika. If they wind up going to the Olympics its something they have to worry about. There are lots of executives these days who do not want players to play on the national teams too.

Someone like Wiggins does have a lot to work on and he is being positioned to be a go to scorer in this league. The championship line was poorly used, they should have stuck with playoffs but yes this team has the goal of being a good team next season and that is a daunting task in west. It makes sense for Wiggins to concentrate on that and not risk injury, sickness, energy, or time participating in two off season tournaments. North Americans don't feel the need as strongly to have to represent their countries as so many European teams do either. Team USA had to put A LOT of work in to get to where it is now where you have people actually wanting to go.

Canada will have its time. Maybe its not this year but when the worlds come around again I think many more stars will be there and the new kids too. Its still on the way up, its probably just not happening now. Again, they messed up when they lost last summer, that was their best chance to seal it. Even with a good Canadian team there is no guarantee they would have made the Olympics. They are young and still learning how to win.



Good post. While I'm very interested in seeing the growth of the sport of basketball in Canada, guys skip intl tournaments (especially non-Olympic ones) all the time. It's the norm for almost every country on Earth and is not a Canada-specific thing like some here are suggesting.

It would be have been awesome to see Canada qualify for Rio, it's 2020 that fans of Basketball Canada should be looking forward to, and the absences are much easier to digest than if all our players were in their mid 30s.

I'm still curious about the absence of some of the best Fringe NBA/Non-NBA guys though; seems like it would have been a good opportunity for them
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Post#394 » by Charlie Sollers » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:03 pm

It's unfortunate we don't have a football (soccer) mentality when it comes to international competitions where it's not even a question if you should skip a tournament or not.
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Post#395 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:31 pm

Ranger wrote:Man, you all are a bit salty. I take it you don't want Wiggins to leave Minnesota and play for Toronto anymore?


Right now I'd rather have another Cory Joseph, than Wiggins. Now I could change my mind if Wiggins has a change of heart, or realizes his faux pas afterwards and apologizes to his Canadian teammates.

You see this is why we are so conflicted with Demar. He has obvious flaws in his game and is about to be reupped by the Raptors, possibly for the max. Does his talent deserve it? I'm not convinced. Does he deserve it due to the loyalty he demonstrates? Yes he does.

Wiggins is demonstrating that his loyalty is in question. He committed to the Canadian program last year and now he is bailing. It reflects poorly on his character.
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Post#396 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:38 pm

Calinks wrote:Don't appreciate the nastiness but it is what it is. In a year, no one will really care about this. I get it, fans are upset. Team Canada has a shot at being something really good and Canadians were looking forward to getting some acclaim. I was very much looking forward to seeing this team too and being entertained. The realities are though that many players are nervous about Zika.


If Wiggins had come out and said, "I will not be traveling to Rio due to Zika. Because of this, it would not be appropriate for me to take a spot on the team, which could be filled by someone else on their way up." This would have been an honorable and acceptable reason to not participate. Saying that he has to prepare for the road to a Timberwolves championship is simply laughable. The TWolves will not even make the WCF next year, so to use a championship run as an excuse is simply insulting our intelligence.
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Post#397 » by tout court » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:40 pm

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Post#398 » by S ID » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:45 pm

You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.
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Post#399 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:53 pm

Calinks wrote: North Americans don't feel the need as strongly to have to represent their countries as so many European teams do either. Team USA had to put A LOT of work in to get to where it is now where you have people actually wanting to go.


Look at what you wrote.

First you claim to speak for me, a fellow North American. You do not. Canada's victories in hockey, be it the 1972 war on ice victory against the Soviets, or the 2010 Olympic victory, as well as many others, are sweeter than any Stanley Cup won by a Canadian NHL team. The 1972 victory will never be matched in terms of Canadian team sporting achievement . And yes I am old enough to have watched it and experience the collective pride of the nation.

Secondly, you state that Americans have put in a lot of work and their players actually want to participate. Well it is a chicken and egg dilemma isn't it. If you don't have your best players available, how exactly do you put in the work to make it attractive for the younger ones coming up? If you don't field a team that will enjoy at least some success, what is the incentive for others? Tristan Thompson has had a long playoffs. If he were to choose to participate, his rest this summer would be minimal. How is he to feel inspired to join, when lazy asses, already having 6 weeks of time off, take a pass?
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Post#400 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:55 pm

S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Thank you for putting my numerous posts, here and in the wiretap thread, into 21 words. Your post is all that was needed.
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