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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread 

Post#401 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:00 pm

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YourBuddy wrote:
This is pretty ironic considering how insecure Raps fans are about being recognized as a fanbase.

Y'all are canvassing a foreign board trying to protect his reputation, who's insecure now?


What in my post is defending Wiggins. The comedy I found in the hatred of this board for their hometown hero, or that they would be the same ones welcoming him back with open arms if he were a UFA.


He'll be welcomed if he apologizes. Same standard as set for Vince Carter. As simply heartfelt apology was all that was needed to remove the decade of bitterness.

If one does not act as a hometown hero, one is not a hometown hero.
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Post#402 » by Double Helix » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:12 pm

I don't know why people are surprised. Nash basically said he was saving the calls for the next one. This tournament was always going to be a ton of effort with less chance than usual to qualify.

He's saving the calls for the next run. He's always said it was going to be the next one with the NBA guys.
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Post#403 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:29 pm

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Would you guys be mad at him if he were a Raptor and skipped the Olympics to improve for their next season?

Spoiler:
Of Course!



If there was no sign of injury to rehab, or family crisis, yes we would. Just as we would be mad if any healthy Canadian, playing for the Maple Leafs, took a pass on an invite to join the Canadian National Hockey Team.

You underestimate the Canadian ability to hold a grudge. Did you not witness the Go Raptors Go VC Sucks chants in the playoffs a decade ago?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1krShfhZQ-U[/youtube]

We are still slighted by the fact that George Bush made no mention in his speech to Congress regarding Canada's contribution to assist during the 911 crisis. He thanks nations around the world, but not the one right next door which landed and handled the security of 255 US bound jets. At that time who knew if one of those jets was also a flying missile?

http://www.northjersey.com/story-archives/9-11-fear-sent-scores-of-jets-to-canada-detour-landed-them-in-world-of-generosity-video-1.1203377
http://www.inspiremore.com/plane-diverted-to-canada-on-9-11/
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Post#404 » by LRJ » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:36 pm

LOL at all the Minny fans coming to our board and insulting our fanbase.
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Post#405 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:30 pm

Double Helix wrote:I don't know why people are surprised. Nash basically said he was saving the calls for the next one. This tournament was always going to be a ton of effort with less chance than usual to qualify.

He's saving the calls for the next run. He's always said it was going to be the next one with the NBA guys.


The problem is that the "next run" may never happen. With the changes that FIBA has instituted, NBA players won't be participating in the qualifying rounds for the 2020 Olympics. And without those players, it's a fair question whether or not Canada will even make it, even with all of the basketball talent that our country seems to have produced over the past several years.
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Post#406 » by tout court » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:34 pm

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Patman wrote:My apologies. Yes, the women have a solid chance. I don't think they're lacking support, though, as a team. There was a lot of buzz during the Pan Ams and FIBA America's. And it will be even bigger in the Olympics, that I have no doubt.

There's little buzz between tournaments because we don't follow the women individually, like we do the men. If that's what you mean, then you're absolutely right. There is much more attention paid to the NBA, men's NCAA, and EuroLeague than the WNBA, women's NCAA, and other women's pro leagues. That will be the case regardless of how much more successful the SWNT is than the SMNT.


I just don't like it when people disregard the SWNT just because so and so might not participate in Rios thereby increasing their chance where even with full participation the SWNT would still be a heavy medal favorite. But that's my bias because of how I am involved with their program. I agree, but my point is there was not even enough discussion about the SWNT even during last year's Pan Ams and FIBA Americas. It doesn't even have to be about roster selection or following players individually but just general hoops talk involving the team. Everything is always about the SMNT program yet they have not reached the success the SWNT has. But hey I guess not everyone is a hoops junkie.


Unfair as it is, what women's sport gets the same billing as its men's equivalent? In America you currently have the U.S. women's soccer team filing a lawsuit against its association for fair/equal pay. And in tennis where equal prize money exists in some tournaments you get knuckle draggers like Novak Djokovic complaining about it.

I'm a hoops junkie, including women's hoops and the SWNT. I can remember watching Lisa Thomaidis when she played at McMaster. I went to the same high school as Kia Nurse, though decades before. So far back that when I was in elementary school her father Richard was the convener for a little lunch time intramural league we had--probably had to do it as part of a mandatory volunteer exercise for religion class, good Catholic school system that we have here in Hamilton. I even had a friend who coached Shona Thorburn at Westdale Secondary School. Before the SWNT decamped to Edmonton they used McMaster as a staging grounds for at least one summer a few years back. On at least a couple of occasions I walked in on Kim Smith shooting jumpers alone and/or with Shona on a side hoop.

But right now, for me, is a time to be pissed about what has transpired with the SMNT. As a lifelong basketball devotee I was hopeful that this would be a moment where the effin' hockey culture in this country finally gets pushed aside a little bit. And that the fat old white men convened on panel after panel, show after show, to talk about it might give way to the urban, cosmopolitan, multicultural Canada that I know in southern Ontario. Just think what broadcast and cable sports TV might look like if it reflected this urban reality of brown and black bodies as well as Asian and even Indigenous peoples instead of more effin' stories about good ole white boys from Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia, etc. I'm frankly sick of it having spent most of the 80s and all of the 90s scanning the aggregate scores in the back of paper looking to see what might have happened in a St. Bonaventure game or a Dayton game, etc, etc. Now with the lineup that Canada appears likely to filed at the qualifier media outlets can ignore the team, once more, and continue talking about hockey, hockey, hockey. So being an absolute hoops whore as well as angered about yesterday's announcement is not mutually exclusive.

Now if you'll excuse me I am going to go and try to find a WNBA game on Raptors' TV.
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Post#407 » by T-wOlvEs 420 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:38 pm

Canada...... hahaha.... hahahaha... hahahhaaa....
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Post#408 » by RoleModel » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:44 pm

T-wOlvEs 420 wrote:Canada...... hahaha.... hahahaha... hahahhaaa....

Minnesota. :lol:

America. :lol:

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Post#409 » by JohnWillow » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:07 pm

S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Not a hater or what, I really like Raptors franchise and fan base what you have, but... just saying, that T-wolfes have brighter future than Raptors right now, even you can laugh @ Knicks how much you want guys, but these both teams have something that you guys don't have, a player who have a potential to be a FRANCHISE player and TOP5 player in the league.
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Post#410 » by S ID » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:20 pm

JohnWillow wrote:
S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Not a hater or what, I really like Raptors franchise and fan base what you have, but... just saying, that T-wolfes have brighter future than Raptors right now, even you can laugh @ Knicks how much you want guys, but these both teams have something that you guys don't have, a player who have a potential to be a FRANCHISE player and TOP5 player in the league.

So do the Kings and it hasn't meant **** so far
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Post#411 » by bozothepope » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:22 pm

JohnWillow wrote:
S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Not a hater or what, I really like Raptors franchise and fan base what you have, but... just saying, that T-wolfes have brighter future than Raptors right now, even you can laugh @ Knicks how much you want guys, but these both teams have something that you guys don't have, a player who have a potential to be a FRANCHISE player and TOP5 player in the league.


Potential means nothing. Ask the New Orleans Pelicans. Or better yet, the Edmonton Oilers.
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Post#412 » by Double Helix » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:23 pm

It will be funny if everyone holds off on reporting the obvious trolling and baiting taking place from these Twolves folks on a different team's board and then as the draft gets near report them so that they get suspended right on draft night for clearly baiting and trolling on another team's board.

Also, our non-superstar team went further than MVP KG's team's ever went and probably further than this new Timberwolves core will go before all the players leave as UFAs and bolt to better markets and to get away from Thibideau after he burns them all out like he did the Bulls stars.

Last thing. We the North isn't just for Toronto. It's for all of Canada and the rest of it is further North than Minnesota.
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Post#413 » by JohnWillow » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:32 pm

S ID wrote:
JohnWillow wrote:
S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Not a hater or what, I really like Raptors franchise and fan base what you have, but... just saying, that T-wolfes have brighter future than Raptors right now, even you can laugh @ Knicks how much you want guys, but these both teams have something that you guys don't have, a player who have a potential to be a FRANCHISE player and TOP5 player in the league.

So do the Kings and it hasn't meant **** so far

Yeah i'm a die hard Kings fan, they suck right now I hope they can turn it around, DC is a franchise player, but he need players around with ''Defender'' Rondo + Rudy Gay it will not happen, but i'm still living in the past and saying that the Kings are the NBA champs of 2002 if it wasn't for rigged refs.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread 

Post#414 » by Ranger » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:32 pm

I'm not trolling, and that's not my intent at all. If I came off that way, I apologize.

Look, I like the Raptors. It's hard not to like them.

I'm a T-wolves fan, and I like Wiggins. I think that the core of that team (Lavine, Wiggins, Towns) has the ability to push for a WC playoff spot next year, if everybody stays healthy. None of us seriously think that the wolves are going to win it all, but we want to see some progress, and for that to happen, Wiggy is gonna have to improve his game. I think that's why most of us are happy to see him focusing on getting ready for the next season.

We've had seasons where 25 wins is something that made us smile. We are long suffering, so there's no point in piling on. There's nothing you guys can say about our franchise that we haven't already said more eloquently. Also, with more vulgarity and animus.
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Post#415 » by Detective » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:32 pm

Did anyone read that earlier report regarding the strain of super bacteria found recently in the Olympic water events portion of Brazil?

Man, these athletes are taking an unnecessary risk by attending these games without further assurances regarding the overall health and safety of the attendees.
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Post#416 » by JohnWillow » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:41 pm

bozothepope wrote:
JohnWillow wrote:
S ID wrote:You guys need to give Wiggins and the Wolves fans a break. They have to prepare for their 25 win season.


Not a hater or what, I really like Raptors franchise and fan base what you have, but... just saying, that T-wolfes have brighter future than Raptors right now, even you can laugh @ Knicks how much you want guys, but these both teams have something that you guys don't have, a player who have a potential to be a FRANCHISE player and TOP5 player in the league.


Potential means nothing. Ask the New Orleans Pelicans. Or better yet, the Edmonton Oilers.


New Orleans Pelicans are unlucky that they got Tyreke and Jrue who are injury prone, AD is kind a injury prone too, but he have managed to play 60+ games every single season and at the end IMO front office made a mistake after they fired Monty Williams...

About Oilers have they ever drafted a defensmen or goalie in the first round for the last few years? Only Nurse and Klefbom, it's like 76ers only drafting big mens...
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Post#417 » by JShuttlesworth » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:06 am

urinesane wrote:
What do you know?


lol...Americans
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Post#418 » by Calinks » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:18 am

Dennis 37 wrote:
Calinks wrote: North Americans don't feel the need as strongly to have to represent their countries as so many European teams do either. Team USA had to put A LOT of work in to get to where it is now where you have people actually wanting to go.


Look at what you wrote.

First you claim to speak for me, a fellow North American. You do not. Canada's victories in hockey, be it the 1972 war on ice victory against the Soviets, or the 2010 Olympic victory, as well as many others, are sweeter than any Stanley Cup won by a Canadian NHL team. The 1972 victory will never be matched in terms of Canadian team sporting achievement . And yes I am old enough to have watched it and experience the collective pride of the nation.

Secondly, you state that Americans have put in a lot of work and their players actually want to participate. Well it is a chicken and egg dilemma isn't it. If you don't have your best players available, how exactly do you put in the work to make it attractive for the younger ones coming up? If you don't field a team that will enjoy at least some success, what is the incentive for others? Tristan Thompson has had a long playoffs. If he were to choose to participate, his rest this summer would be minimal. How is he to feel inspired to join, when lazy asses, already having 6 weeks of time off, take a pass?


I am not speaking for you personally. I am speaking for North American NBA players in general and their attitudes towards international competition. After the Dream team came in smoked everyone, then the next few Olympic teams did much the same, playing in the Olympics or any kind of world basketball games did not have a lot of meaning for specifically US players. It wasn't taken very seriously and then "The world caught up" and US struggled for some time to dominate. That's when they got very serious, brought in some of the best coaches in the world and really grew the desire to compete on an international level.

I think some of that has fallen off and we see players in the US decline a lot of competitions including Canadians. It just doesn't mean the same to the average NBA NA star as it does to a guy like Ricky Rubio. Team USA has increased that desire in recent years for the US but its still not at that level. Canada doesn't seem to be there either, doesn't mean it cant improve.

That is a problem the people running team Canada have to solves. As I said the US put lot of effort into getting Team USA back to an indomitable force. Of course, we in the US have an abundance of basketball resources when it comes to coaches and and talent. It is much easier to turn Team USA around than Team Canada. Canada is getting the talent though they just need the people running the show to be up to task as well. Maybe they should look to more coaches/organizers outside of Canada. There is nothing wrong with that as Canada is a great melting pot country. Canadian players will play, maybe not this time around but they will answer the call.

The wolves fans in here trolling, just ignore them. They are responding because they fee like Wiggins is being unfairly attacked and of course the "HAHA 25 win team!" posts will piss them off too. Funny thing, I think at least a couple of the trolls don't even live in Minnesota or the US XD.

The reality is, that the wolves are trying to be a playoff team and make some noise next season. As I said, it was a poor choice of words to talk about a championship team, that's not happening but a shot at a playoff berth is real and a HUGE deal over here. We haven't been to the playoff since 2004, this is the most promising team we have had from the players to coach possibly ever. As fans of a team that has reached new milestones and done their fanbase proud this season you should be able to appreciate that. I greatly enjoyed seeing the Raptors run and posted here right along with you. Us fans are looking forward to a run we can be proud of and that's why we are behind Wiggins' choice. Team Canada isn't going anywhere, not going to Rio doesn't diminish what they have become over the last few years. They will be back, hell they still have an outside chance to make Rio despite all the players, not just Wiggins, who decided not to attend.
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Post#419 » by urinesane » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:55 am

Dennis 37 wrote:
urinesane wrote:
Would you guys be mad at him if he were a Raptor and skipped the Olympics to improve for their next season?

Spoiler:
Of Course!



If there was no sign of injury to rehab, or family crisis, yes we would. Just as we would be mad if any healthy Canadian, playing for the Maple Leafs, took a pass on an invite to join the Canadian National Hockey Team.

You underestimate the Canadian ability to hold a grudge. Did you not witness the Go Raptors Go VC Sucks chants in the playoffs a decade ago?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1krShfhZQ-U[/youtube]

We are still slighted by the fact that George Bush made no mention in his speech to Congress regarding Canada's contribution to assist during the 911 crisis. He thanks nations around the world, but not the one right next door which landed and handled the security of 255 US bound jets. At that time who knew if one of those jets was also a flying missile?

http://www.northjersey.com/story-archives/9-11-fear-sent-scores-of-jets-to-canada-detour-landed-them-in-world-of-generosity-video-1.1203377
http://www.inspiremore.com/plane-diverted-to-canada-on-9-11/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellow_Ribbon


First you change my quote and then you bring up Bush? Are you kidding me?

What does that have to do with basketball in any way shape or form?

Maybe you have some sort of inferiority complex where you think your athletes have to prove themselves to the world. Guess what?

Nobody cares. It's a crappy watered down tourney and the NBA is more important.

Nobody owes you anything. Just because you were born within the borders of the same invisible lines, doesn't mean they have to play for your honor.
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Post#420 » by SeeJayAre » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:09 am

This moron can't even spell "Eh" correctly... Lol.

T-wOlvEs 420 wrote:
Mattd97 wrote:
T-wOlvEs 420 wrote:Who cares about Canada anyway.. What a joke... Go Wiggins!! Go Towns!! Go Lavine!! Go Rubio!!! Plus the 5th overall pick...Plus a great coach... Just shut up Canada. . Nobody cares..


you sound smart. must be that great education system. i sometimes wonder how some people manage to even tie their shoes in the morning, but then i remember if they trip and have to go to the hospital they might go bankrupt in medical bills. go president trump

Wow that was very clever.. good come back!! A

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