Celtics to pursue Harrison Barnes in Free Agency
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When I think of GS, I think of Curry, Klay, D. Green, then I think of guys like Livingston, Iggy, Barnes, Bogut. I get that Barnes is young, but he is still on role player for that team.
You start throwing max money at a guy like Barnes and bring him to Boston, IT, Bradley, and Crowder willing be looking to leave. IT, Bradley, Crowder, will not be happy making 1/3 of what Barnes makes, especially when they outplay him on most nights.
Barnes while be a good addition to the Celtic but not at that price.
You start throwing max money at a guy like Barnes and bring him to Boston, IT, Bradley, and Crowder willing be looking to leave. IT, Bradley, Crowder, will not be happy making 1/3 of what Barnes makes, especially when they outplay him on most nights.
Barnes while be a good addition to the Celtic but not at that price.
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Afam wrote:Welcome to the land of Mediocrity . No way should the Celtics sign Harrison Barnes unless they have a deal in place to bring a star player like Kevin Durant or Paul George.
A star like Durant or George is not attainable for Boston. We need to accept this fact and move on. The roster will be modified and improved ... Without an elite star. Now is Barnes worth the money? Probably not. Though I do think he provides the team with much needed 3&D. He's versatile and can guard several positions .. And rebound. I do think he's on a similar level as a Jae Crowder. But As long as Crowder is still here, then we don't need Barnes.
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return2glory wrote:When I think of GS, I think of Curry, Klay, D. Green, then I think of guys like Livingston, Iggy, Barnes, Bogut. I get that Barnes is young, but he is still on role player for that team.
You start throwing max money at a guy like Barnes and bring him to Boston, IT, Bradley, and Crowder willing be looking to leave. IT, Bradley, Crowder, will not be happy making 1/3 of what Barnes makes, especially when they outplay him on most nights.
Barnes while be a good addition to the Celtic but not at that price.
So by this logic, if he resigns for the max in GS, Steph and Iggy will be looking to leave?
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C's will always pay more for less in free agency. Boston is not hugely attractive to FA's. That's the truth..and the system is slanted such that FA is not such a good deal. Most of the time its better to stay with your own team. Basically if your not a big city the NBA wants you to win via drafting a superstar..
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Edug27 wrote:
So by this logic, if he resigns for the max in GS, Steph and Iggy will be looking to leave?
Steph will be paid more than Barnes come 2017. Iggy's getting old and has already earned quite a bit over the course of his career. Plus, the guy will have helped the team win two championships while on a rookie contract.
When you have a random newcomer like Barnes making about three times as much as your best player for two seasons and your second best player for four seasons, that just isn't passable unless it is quickly obvious that he is a star caliber player and/or if he fills a glaring need that isn't easy to fill. There might not be any overt hard feelings, but there is too much potential for it to screw with players' heads and hence their morale, as well.
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Edug27 wrote:return2glory wrote:When I think of GS, I think of Curry, Klay, D. Green, then I think of guys like Livingston, Iggy, Barnes, Bogut. I get that Barnes is young, but he is still on role player for that team.
You start throwing max money at a guy like Barnes and bring him to Boston, IT, Bradley, and Crowder willing be looking to leave. IT, Bradley, Crowder, will not be happy making 1/3 of what Barnes makes, especially when they outplay him on most nights.
Barnes while be a good addition to the Celtic but not at that price.
So by this logic, if he resigns for the max in GS, Steph and Iggy will be looking to leave?
Stephen Curry is going to get a max contract no matter what.
Iggy probably won't make more money than what he is making now, he is not young.
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Edug27 wrote:Afam wrote:Welcome to the land of Mediocrity . No way should the Celtics sign Harrison Barnes unless they have a deal in place to bring a star player like Kevin Durant or Paul George.
A star like Durant or George is not attainable for Boston. We need to accept this fact and move on.
You don't know this.
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HeartBreakKid wrote:Edug27 wrote:return2glory wrote:When I think of GS, I think of Curry, Klay, D. Green, then I think of guys like Livingston, Iggy, Barnes, Bogut. I get that Barnes is young, but he is still on role player for that team.
You start throwing max money at a guy like Barnes and bring him to Boston, IT, Bradley, and Crowder willing be looking to leave. IT, Bradley, Crowder, will not be happy making 1/3 of what Barnes makes, especially when they outplay him on most nights.
Barnes while be a good addition to the Celtic but not at that price.
So by this logic, if he resigns for the max in GS, Steph and Iggy will be looking to leave?
Stephen Curry is going to get a max contract no matter what.
Iggy probably won't make more money than what he is making now, he is not young.
Crowder just signed a new deal. Bradley will be getting paid as well when his deal is up. He's super young and just as productive as Barnes. Although IT is underpaid for what he does on this team. But you'd probably bet on him being open to any player who will help the team win.. Rather than focusing on who is getting paid more than him.
It's a new market. Everyone will have to adjust. Wherever Barnes goes he'll most likely be the highest paid player on the team. Even if the team already has stars. Even if Danny signs a mediocre Role player, he'll still be making more than IT most likely.
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fallguy wrote:Edug27 wrote:Afam wrote:Welcome to the land of Mediocrity . No way should the Celtics sign Harrison Barnes unless they have a deal in place to bring a star player like Kevin Durant or Paul George.
A star like Durant or George is not attainable for Boston. We need to accept this fact and move on.
You don't know this.
Oh I do. But I'm talking about this summer at least. Next offseason or the trade deadline are different stories.
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Curmudgeon wrote:Harrison Barnes isn't a superstar. But he is a starter on a championship team that appears to be on its way to a second championship. He's a winning player.
Barnes is alot like Crowder. That's why I want him. If Crowder were a free agent in June, you certainly wouldn't get him for a piddling $7M a year.
Barnes is a much better offensive player than crowder. Not close skill wise. Defensively, I can't attest to Barnes' ability. As far as he being 3 and D. I think he is more talented than that. He is playing a role right now as 4th option.
I am not for max, but you could do a lot worse than Barnes.
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KamikazeK wrote:I don't believe this for a second.
I mean, I see it, he's a plus defender and a shooter we need but Barnes has been the same player since he was at UNC. I don't see any breakout potential to justify paying the price tag.
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1. Everyone gets a Max. Max salaries aren't a boogie-man.
2. Danny thus far has earned my trust. If he feels that this is a good move, I'm for it. But I reserve the right to judge the outcome strongly.
2. Danny thus far has earned my trust. If he feels that this is a good move, I'm for it. But I reserve the right to judge the outcome strongly.
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Hard pass. I wouldn't be livid with it, but after passing on Tobias Harris last year, I don't see us blowing our space on someone like Barnes. I think the previously mentioned #3 for Deandre Jordan rumor would need to be true for something like this to happen.
IT
AB
Crowder
Barnes
Jordan
If the hack-a-shaq is outlawed, that's a fierce top 5, but still not quite enough (barring Barnes making a major leap that I'm not sure he's capable of), even with brad maximizing our cast of try-hards, to get past Cleveland, imo.
IT
AB
Crowder
Barnes
Jordan
If the hack-a-shaq is outlawed, that's a fierce top 5, but still not quite enough (barring Barnes making a major leap that I'm not sure he's capable of), even with brad maximizing our cast of try-hards, to get past Cleveland, imo.
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Afam wrote:All this talk from the Celtics about having the ability to sign Two Max Free Agents. Watch them waste it on above average players .
better than wasting it on below average players.
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Lol@ people who think Barnes will be able to consistently create his own shot without having threats like Curry Klay and Dray.
And yes, as a wing player, you need to be able to drop 20 a game as a #1 or 2 option to deserve the max.
And yes, as a wing player, you need to be able to drop 20 a game as a #1 or 2 option to deserve the max.
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I can't believe there are people who would throw the max at Barnes. He's a nice player. A max player? Uh no.
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s1ickd wrote:Lol@ people who think Barnes will be able to consistently create his own shot without having threats like Curry Klay and Dray.
And yes, as a wing player, you need to be able to drop 20 a game as a #1 or 2 option to deserve the max.
I don't believe you. I doubt you are even laughing silently.
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Curmudgeon wrote:Barnes is only 23 and an outstanding defender. Go get him Danny. And Barnes is not instead of Durant, he's in addition to Durant.
does it make a difference if he is 24
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