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Post#781 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:27 pm

CountMe3Outs wrote:Awesome post, I appreciate all the detail. I think I was more concerned with leg room since, as you noted, it's cramped. Would you have the figures on the Bradley Center leg room vs. potential new arena--if there exists such numbers?

My in-situ measurements (with ushers wondering what I was doing) on BC row spacing were 31.5 inches between rows (upper section) and 33.5 inches in the lower section.

Saturday, June 18th's groundbreaking presents a PRIME opportunity for someone to ask Bucks officials what the
actual row spacings will be in the new arena.




Feigin was already quoted as new arena having 1 extra inch of leg room. I was a bit disappointed to hear that.

1 inch is not a noticeable improvement in leg space
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#782 » by LittleRooster » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:40 pm

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CountMe3Outs wrote:Awesome post, I appreciate all the detail. I think I was more concerned with leg room since, as you noted, it's cramped. Would you have the figures on the Bradley Center leg room vs. potential new arena--if there exists such numbers?

My in-situ measurements (with ushers wondering what I was doing) on BC row spacing were 31.5 inches between rows (upper section) and 33.5 inches in the lower section.

Saturday, June 18th's groundbreaking presents a PRIME opportunity for someone to ask Bucks officials what the
actual row spacings will be in the new arena.




Feigin was already quoted as new arena having 1 extra inch of leg room. I was a bit disappointed to hear that.

1 inch is not a noticeable improvement in leg space


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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#783 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:08 pm

I want cup holders. The problem is cup holders are usually attached to the seat in front of you. At the BC, and most arenas I assume, the first several rows of seats are removable, not permanent. They are removed for various other events. So they are just folding chairs. You can't put cup holders on those. You can do it on the permanent seats though. Yeah it's a first world problem but I hate putting my beer at my feet, especially when people are coming and going by me.
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#784 » by LittleRooster » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:11 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I want cup holders. The problem is cup holders are usually attached to the seat in front of you. At the BC, and most arenas I assume, the first several rows of seats are removable, not permanent. They are removed for various other events. So they are just folding chairs. You can't put cup holders on those. You can do it on the permanent seats though. Yeah it's a first world problem but I hate putting my beer at my feet, especially when people are coming and going by me.


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Post#785 » by CountMe3Outs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:16 pm

Per the planning document submitted to Milwaukee "151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf", on page 4 (showing the event level plan), scaling 6 rows of end seats to the length of the court (94 feet), gives 17.2 feet (206 inches) or about 34-1/2 inches per row, at least on the temporary lower end risers - about an inch more than the BC.

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http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityDCD/planning/cpc/ItemsLocations/Arena-Zoning/151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf
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Post#786 » by CountMe3Outs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:17 pm

Per the planning document submitted to Milwaukee "151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf", on page 4 (showing the event level plan), scaling 6 rows of end seats to the length of the court (94 feet), gives 17.2 feet (206 inches) or about 34-1/2 inches per row, at least on the temporary lower end risers - about an inch more than the BC.

Link to planning doc:
http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityDCD/planning/cpc/ItemsLocations/Arena-Zoning/151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#787 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:21 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I want cup holders. The problem is cup holders are usually attached to the seat in front of you. At the BC, and most arenas I assume, the first several rows of seats are removable, not permanent. They are removed for various other events. So they are just folding chairs. You can't put cup holders on those. You can do it on the permanent seats though. Yeah it's a first world problem but I hate putting my beer at my feet, especially when people are coming and going by me.


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Post#788 » by StickeeFingaz » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:23 pm

1 inch more for leg room? That doesn't sound good.

I was a season ticket holder this past year and maybe the biggest reason we didn't re-new for the upcoming season was the leg room at the BC. It's absolutely terrible and I'm only 5'9". So this news of only one additional inch is scary.


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Post#789 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:46 pm

CountMe3Outs wrote:Per the planning document submitted to Milwaukee "151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf", on page 4 (showing the event level plan), scaling 6 rows of end seats to the length of the court (94 feet), gives 17.2 feet (206 inches) or about 34-1/2 inches per row, at least on the temporary lower end risers - about an inch more than the BC.

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http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityDCD/planning/cpc/ItemsLocations/Arena-Zoning/151653Block1ArenaDrawings2asof031716.pdf



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Post#790 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:58 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I want cup holders. The problem is cup holders are usually attached to the seat in front of you. At the BC, and most arenas I assume, the first several rows of seats are removable, not permanent. They are removed for various other events. So they are just folding chairs. You can't put cup holders on those. You can do it on the permanent seats though. Yeah it's a first world problem but I hate putting my beer at my feet, especially when people are coming and going by me.


You know nothing about current seating. :wink:

Orlando removable seating.

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Portland removable seating.

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Houston removable seating.

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Post#791 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:01 pm

Some of the corner rows, sections 218, 219, 223, 224, etc.. are brutal. Worse than other sections (and every section is bad). Anyone know what the legroom is at Miller Park? I've only sat field level the past few years and maybe higher l. evels are different but it sure seems as if there is plenty of leg room
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Post#792 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:02 pm

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Post#793 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:06 pm

There you go, if it's good enough for Marcus theaters it's good enough for our arena
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Post#794 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:08 pm

Those pics of removable seating elsewhere pissed me off. We have God damn cheap ass Walmart folding chairs. No wonder Kohl sat in permanent seats.
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#795 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:08 pm

Make those the courtside seats. Oh, I just got the sudden need to recline just as LeBron is coming down the court.
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Post#796 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:10 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Some of the corner rows, sections 218, 219, 223, 224, etc.. are brutal. Worse than other sections (and every section is bad). Anyone know what the legroom is at Miller Park? I've only sat field level the past few years and maybe higher l. evels are different but it sure seems as if there is plenty of leg room



The Corner sections Row Z end of aisle seats are the biggest hidden gems in the BC.

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Post#797 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:11 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Those pics of removable seating elsewhere pissed me off. We have God damn cheap ass Walmart folding chairs. No wonder Kohl sat in permanent seats.


Those are so uncomfortable too. Like they wouldn't even be that bad if they were comfortable to sit on. My first experience sitting on them was a Globetrotters game, I was a kid then so it wasn't that bad. Then I sat in them again for an Admirals playoff game, even more uncomfortable. Then I sat in them this past February at an Admirals game just to see if anything changed and my ass fell asleep by the middle of the 2nd period.

Those chairs have cushions but I'm pretty sure the cushions are filled with rocks.
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Post#798 » by JEIS » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:15 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I want cup holders. The problem is cup holders are usually attached to the seat in front of you. At the BC, and most arenas I assume, the first several rows of seats are removable, not permanent. They are removed for various other events. So they are just folding chairs. You can't put cup holders on those. You can do it on the permanent seats though. Yeah it's a first world problem but I hate putting my beer at my feet, especially when people are coming and going by me.



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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#799 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:22 pm

Looks like the new arena will have indoor parking for the players. Something they'll appreciate as opposed to the BC.
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Post#800 » by HaroldinGMinor » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:07 pm

They should make the whole place one gigantic sectional couch.
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