Celtics to pursue Harrison Barnes in Free Agency

[Marley2Hendrix]

I think the Celtics need to strongly consider punting their cap space to next season. Let everyone else blow their wads on these guys and swing for the fences next year with less competition. If Ainge hits on the third pick then they have another extremely valueable asset to make a move via trade. Standing pat might be the best move this offseason

agreed, there might be some uneasiness around these parts if we do nothing but bring in 2-3 rookies and stash the rest (or punt some picks as well), but it's not a bad position at all, particularly with another hot lottery ticket with the BKN17. Moreover, it may not be a bad option to try and pick out the next Biyombo in August rather than splurging with everyone else in July.

We have great flexibility and plenty of time with our roster, gm, and coach; no need at all to rush things.

[BfB]

I'd rather pay Harkless 3/30 than Barnes 4/90 if we want a 3/D versatile 3/4....

...I don't believe Ainge is ready to throw $20M in cap space at Barnes - who I like - not in a vacuum.

Barnes is not "mentally weak" that doesn't mean anything. His issues coming off the bench were a byproduct of his ego, not fragility.

He'll be a starter wherever he goes and he'll get more than a 14-18 usg% to boot.

He's a good shooter who has gotten better at driving closeouts and bulling to the basket.

He's probably a 16-18 ppg guy with 7-9 boards per36 depending on how much he plays the 4 - not a superstar but would make an impact at PF with his shooting and defense.

Only way i see this happening is if BOS commits to going young though. Can't see them spending that money unless they are doing something nutty like trading Bradley/Crowder for Butler, which would still leave 2 max slots while adding the support star.

That would leave room for KD and make Barnes a valuable - albeit overpaid - role player.


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[TheMartian]

I think the Celtics need to strongly consider punting their cap space to next season. Let everyone else blow their wads on these guys and swing for the fences next year with less competition. If Ainge hits on the third pick then they have another extremely valueable asset to make a move via trade. Standing pat might be the best move this offseason

agreed, there might be some uneasiness around these parts if we do nothing but bring in 2-3 rookies and stash the rest (or punt some picks as well), but it's not a bad position at all, particularly with another hot lottery ticket with the BKN17. Moreover, it may not be a bad option to try and pick out the next Biyombo in August rather than splurging with everyone else in July.

We have great flexibility and plenty of time with our roster, gm, and coach; no need at all to rush things.

I'm in the same boat. We don't need to use the cap space this year if nothing's there for us. 2017 FA class is better anyway.

[reload141]

I'd rather pay Harkless 3/30 than Barnes 4/90 if we want a 3/D versatile 3/4....

...I don't believe Ainge is ready to throw $20M in cap space at Barnes - who I like - not in a vacuum.

Barnes is not "mentally weak" that doesn't mean anything. His issues coming off the bench were a byproduct of his ego, not fragility.

He'll be a starter wherever he goes and he'll get more than a 14-18 usg% to boot.

He's a good shooter who has gotten better at driving closeouts and bulling to the basket.

He's probably a 16-18 ppg guy with 7-9 boards per36 depending on how much he plays the 4 - not a superstar but would make an impact at PF with his shooting and defense.

Only way i see this happening is if BOS commits to going young though. Can't see them spending that money unless they are doing something nutty like trading Bradley/Crowder for Butler, which would still leave 2 max slots while adding the support star.

That would leave room for KD and make Barnes a valuable - albeit overpaid - role player.


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So basically he's Jeff Green 16-18ppg & 7-9rpg... Yeah look I think it's pretty obvious we will be steering clear of Jeff Green 2.0.

[Ben-N1ce]

When are we giving Barnes Max?


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[GreenBloodedC]

Game 6, Barnes still sucks.

[sam_I_am]

I'd rather pay Harkless 3/30 than Barnes 4/90 if we want a 3/D versatile 3/4....

...I don't believe Ainge is ready to throw $20M in cap space at Barnes - who I like - not in a vacuum.

Barnes is not "mentally weak" that doesn't mean anything. His issues coming off the bench were a byproduct of his ego, not fragility.

He'll be a starter wherever he goes and he'll get more than a 14-18 usg% to boot.

He's a good shooter who has gotten better at driving closeouts and bulling to the basket.

He's probably a 16-18 ppg guy with 7-9 boards per36 depending on how much he plays the 4 - not a superstar but would make an impact at PF with his shooting and defense.

Only way i see this happening is if BOS commits to going young though. Can't see them spending that money unless they are doing something nutty like trading Bradley/Crowder for Butler, which would still leave 2 max slots while adding the support star.

That would leave room for KD and make Barnes a valuable - albeit overpaid - role player.


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So basically he's Jeff Green 16-18ppg & 7-9rpg... Yeah look I think it's pretty obvious we will be steering clear of Jeff Green 2.0.

Jeff Green is 13/4 with 33% 3 pt FG%. If Barnes gives you 18/8 with 39% 3 pt FG% ..... That is way more than JG.

[Ben-N1ce]

Game 5 and 6 of the Finals 2/22 on 75% minimal wide open looks.

[31to6]

Barnes is fire. On poop. In a bag. (right now; I know he can be 17 and 5 but I'm not compelled to watch it/want us to pay for it).

[Fencer reregistered]

I think the Celtics need to strongly consider punting their cap space to next season. Let everyone else blow their wads on these guys and swing for the fences next year with less competition. If Ainge hits on the third pick then they have another extremely valueable asset to make a move via trade. Standing pat might be the best move this offseason

Punting could easily happen. Supply/demand is the big reason.

Also, another year of development could brings things into further focus. Bradley and Thomas will approach the last year of their contracts and will or won't be extended. Smart (or Rozier) will or won't develop. Olynyk will or won't show consistency. Mickey and rookie big men will or will not look like future stars. Etc.

[soxfan2003]

Not fair to judge Barnes solely by 1 playoff series or a couple of games but he wasn't close to a legit max player before this series/playoffs and he isn't now. Ainge should be fired if he gives Barnes the max or even the near max. Rebuild is a much better option than playing Barnes big money.

[Captain_Caveman]

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[Captain_Caveman]

Barnes is not "mentally weak" that doesn't mean anything. His issues coming off the bench were a byproduct of his ego, not fragility.

I trust you on these things but know otherwise.

[TheMartian]

Isn't ego also a mental thing? If Barnes' ego is affected when he comes off the bench then there's something wrong with him. No thanks.

[Gomes3PC]

I'm not usually one to overreact to small sample sizes, but holy lord has Harrison Barnes looked awful the last two games. Like worse than Jeff Green on his worst days. He's getting exposed badly in an expanded role with Bogut out.

[Gomes3PC]

I think the Celtics need to strongly consider punting their cap space to next season. Let everyone else blow their wads on these guys and swing for the fences next year with less competition. If Ainge hits on the third pick then they have another extremely valueable asset to make a move via trade. Standing pat might be the best move this offseason

Punting could easily happen. Supply/demand is the big reason.

Also, another year of development could brings things into further focus. Bradley and Thomas will approach the last year of their contracts and will or won't be extended. Smart (or Rozier) will or won't develop. Olynyk will or won't show consistency. Mickey and rookie big men will or will not look like future stars. Etc.

They could easily choose to do what they did last year, which is try to extend 1-2 guys of their own and then get one quality vet whose market isn't real strong. In fact, short of a Durant signing I am guessing that's the most likely scenario.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I think the Celtics need to strongly consider punting their cap space to next season. Let everyone else blow their wads on these guys and swing for the fences next year with less competition. If Ainge hits on the third pick then they have another extremely valueable asset to make a move via trade. Standing pat might be the best move this offseason

Punting could easily happen. Supply/demand is the big reason.

Also, another year of development could brings things into further focus. Bradley and Thomas will approach the last year of their contracts and will or won't be extended. Smart (or Rozier) will or won't develop. Olynyk will or won't show consistency. Mickey and rookie big men will or will not look like future stars. Etc.

They could easily choose to do what they did last year, which is try to extend 1-2 guys of their own and then get one quality vet whose market isn't real strong. In fact, short of a Durant signing I am guessing that's the most likely scenario.

I hope we get David West on an Amir Johnson type deal.

[KumaJG]

What are the chances the Cs max Bradley Beal...

[Froob]

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And Tupac would probably be old enough to come off the bench for the Clippers right about now. What could have been.

[Froob]

What are the chances the Cs max Bradley Beal...

None because the Wizards will, look what they paid Scott Brooks (who I think is actually a solid coach but not worthy of one of the highest coaching salaries in the league).