The Lebron Thread (2015-16 Pt. 4)

JulesWinnfield · Post #141 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:51 pm

I don't really have an allegiance to any NBA franchise per say. I grew up a Knicks fan and still hold a certain place for them, but Dolan makes it impossible for me. When Lebron came into the league I just hopped on that bandwagon from day 1, which happened right around the exact time Dolan soured me, and I've just rooted ever since, adopting his teams as mine. I don't know that I've ever wanted it this bad for him though. This would be so amazing. I would put this right there with my NY Giants winning Super Bowl 42 as the most satisfying sports fan experience of my life. They still need to get this game though, because sadly most of this will be considered absolutely irrelevant by the public at large if they don't. We are about to see the biggest game he will ever play in. This game could do more for his legacy than any one prior

colts18 · Post #142 » by **colts18** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:28 pm

LeBron's opponents shot 2-12 FG against him last night. For the series, they are shooting 30.9 FG% (-17.1 FG% from their regular season average), the best in the series.

JulesWinnfield · Post #143 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:31 pm

This is going to be a long 2 days between games now. I just hope Kyrie is ok. Honestly the replay didn't even look bad at all, he merely got his foot stepped on, not as if he stepped on someone else and rolled it or something. Doesn't seem like it should be a big deal. He says he will play in game 7, but when asked his answer was weirdly short and quick which I read (perhaps incorrectly) as he is hurting a bit. He went back to the locker room at the end instead of hanging out with the team as he usually does. They need him to come up big in game 7. If not they are going to need some sort of team wide 3 point shooting wave

The igoudala injury will obviously loom big also if he's out there as compromised as last night.

MisterHibachi · Post #144 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:49 pm

Iggy looked terrible in the few minutes I saw. Did he come into the game with the injury or did it happen during the game?

JVL · Post #145 » by **JVL** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:53 pm

He looked a bit stiff in Game 5 as well, I think the minutes are taxing him too much. Considering how hard Kerr played him, I doubt he recovers by Sunday if his back is truly holding him, well, back.

JulesWinnfield · Post #146 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:56 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Iggy looked terrible in the few minutes I saw. Did he come into the game with the injury or did it happen during the game?

It happened during the game in the first half. He was in and out of the locker room multiple times (at least twice to my memory), he had the trainer working on his back every time while he was on the bench. It was a major part of the telecast. He was pretty brutal. He was looking like shades of Mike Miller in 2012 where every movement looked labored. JVG and JAX at times were wondering why he was in

On another note, with no Bogut and golden state having to play small even more often now than before, Tristan Thompson is going to continue to be a major issue. That may be the single most sustainable thing about last night, even more than LeBrons performance. He's a problem for the Dubs.

kayess · Post #147 » by **kayess** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:02 pm

JVL wrote:
kayess wrote:
JVL wrote:
Then I'm going to make the asinine bold prediction and say this series is over and the Cavaliers win their first title. These last 2 games might be the best 2-game stretch I've seen in an NBA Finals and Lebron is the architect of it all.
The Warriors haven't faced this kind of adversity. They recovered impressively from being down 3-1 against OKC, but in my opinion OKC (not statistically but watching the games) took themselves out of the series with abandoning all the reasons that gave them the 3-1 lead and reverting to boneheaded ISO heroball.

Not Cleveland. Everyone is dialed in, the momentum is there, they've won G5 in the Oracle Arena already and by the looks of it they took the Warriors their soul.

Statistics and history favor the Warriors, but my gut tells me this is over and it will be another blowout. Cleveland in 7.

Holy **** dont jinx them man please.

Everyone do voodoo dances but in reverse to counter this

Hold on my man, I'll reverse jinx like a pro in the Stephen Curry ànd Draymond Green thread. We got this.

I don't think I ever rooted for another team like this before. I've always been a Lebron James fan since he came into the league, but now I'm really rooting for the Cavaliers as well. I truly hope they finish things off on Sunday.

You **** better lol

gothehornets · Post #148 » by **gothehornets** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:06 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Iggy looked terrible in the few minutes I saw. Did he come into the game with the injury or did it happen during the game?

i think he is just slowly breaking down as the series goes on from the increase in minutes, and hes getting old

Post #149 » by **Texas Chuck** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:11 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/743682162914844673[/tweet]

SideshowBob · Post #150 » by **SideshowBob** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:13 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/743682162914844673[/tweet]

Yup he's just super-dialed in right now. That sole TO last game was an early charge on a drive too, meaning ball-handling has tightended up a bit.

Post #151 » by **PaulieWal** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:21 pm

JVL wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:
SideshowBob wrote:Lebron Game 7 (5 G)

Average Defense Faced: 100.3 DRTG (-5.7)

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MPG PTS TRB AST TOV STL FGA FTA TS% TOV% GmSc 45.3 34.4 9.0 3.6 2.4 1.6 22.8 13.6 .598 .077 26.5

He's gonna need that and more to win game 7 on the road. I expect Curry and Klay to have their 2k cheese on...

Then I'm going to make the asinine bold prediction and say this series is over and the Cavaliers win their first title. These last 2 games might be the best 2-game stretch I've seen in an NBA Finals and Lebron is the architect of it all.
The Warriors haven't faced this kind of adversity. They recovered impressively from being down 3-1 against OKC, but in my opinion OKC (not statistically but watching the games) took themselves out of the series with abandoning all the reasons that gave them the 3-1 lead and reverting to boneheaded ISO heroball.

Not Cleveland. Everyone is dialed in, the momentum is there, they've won G5 in the Oracle Arena already and by the looks of it they took the Warriors their soul.

Statistics and history favor the Warriors, but my gut tells me this is over and it will be another blowout. Cleveland in 7.

Not sure what your point is....GSW literally won the last two games of the OKC series with 2K cheese from Klay and Curry. I simply expect Curry to some of that in game 7 at home. Not sure what's so asinine or bold about that. That's who Curry is at this point.

JulesWinnfield · Post #152 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:41 pm

I know I've said this a million times on the last thread, but literally every single finals game 7 in the post merger era has been close and lower scoring than the rest of the series. Guys get tight, the game is not free flowing. The pressure in this spot is just absolutely enormous, and wholly incomparable to any other setting any of these guys have ever or will ever play in (with the exception of the guys who have actually played in one before, and I believe LeBron is the only guy in either teams rotation who has). Even a game 7 in the conference finals is an apples to oranges comparison. This is just a completely different level of pressure.

At this point pressure starts to build back on the Cavs too. They were sort of playing with house money these last couple games, but now that they're all squared up that goes out the window. For a game that is likely going to have more misses than usual, the Cavs rebounding advantage is going to loom larger than it otherwise would have. I expect Tristan to just have a monster game. They have nobody who can handle him on the glass especially now that they are forced into small ball now more than ever. Hopefully Kevin Love can show up for once too....

ronnymac2 · Post #153 » by **ronnymac2** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:45 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/743682162914844673[/tweet]

First thing I saw when I looked at the boxscore this morning was LBJ with 41 points, 11 assists, and 1 turnover. CLE with a stellar team TOV% thanks to LBJ's massive USG%.

Love Tristan Thompson, too, killing it on the glass. I think JR Smith should get credit. He's played well in this series.

Past 2 games, LeBron at a mega-star level 35.9 USG with an unholy 139 individual ORTG on 42.6 MPG. His blocks/steals numbers look like 1992 David Robinson, and he's rebounding like a PF. Might be the best 2-game stretch of his career.

This is the second-best offensive rebounding playoff run of LBJ's career, after 2012. Love when he's aggressive on the offensive glass.

BasketballFan7 · Post #154 » by **BasketballFan7** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:49 pm

Kevin Love playing for his future on Sunday. No way he isn't a goner if they lose.

bleeds_purple · Post #155 » by **bleeds_purple** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:51 pm

kayess wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:I do like his end of game speech though he did look like he wanted to cry though when Craig mentioned he could win the title for the franchise of Cleveland. Makes me really want to pull for him now.

This could possibly be the most epic jinx attempt I've ever seen on this site, but if it's not - then the world must be coming to an end if JB's gonna pull for LBJ.

Dunno why the image link isn't working: http://imgur.com/E74Of79

Larry David · Post #156 » by **Larry David** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:09 pm

Playing like a mix of Magic Johnson and Charles Barkley on offense and Tim Duncan from the perimeter on defense

Post #157 » by **Texas Chuck** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:11 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:Kevin Love playing for his future on Sunday. No way he isn't a goner if they lose.

He's likely a goner no matter what happens--and that includes the highly unlikely 30/15 game from Love. And its best for everyone--including Kevin.

Post #158 » by **PaulieWal** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:12 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:Kevin Love playing for his future on Sunday. No way he isn't a goner if they lose.

He's likely a goner no matter what happens--and that includes the highly unlikely 30/15 game from Love. And its best for everyone--including Kevin.

Agreed. Move Bron to the 4, jumper or no jumper. Set Love free, get pieces in return. Let him go to a team where they can use him better.

colts18 · Post #159 » by **colts18** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:16 pm

Id prefer to sell high on kyrie and bank on the LeBron/Love combo working like it did earlier in the season.

lorak · Post #160 » by **lorak** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:30 pm

colts18 wrote:LeBron's opponents shot 2-12 FG against him last night. For the series, they are shooting 30.9 FG% (-17.1 FG% from their regular season average), the best in the series.

I wonder how reliable it is, because Love also looks great in that stat: 36.4 DFG% (-12.6 FG%) - better than any Warriors player.