Reasons why the NBA is not rigged

vancity604 · Post #1 » by **vancity604** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:32 am

1. NBA decided to instate instant replay. If you are trying to rig games you don't implement instant replay which allows refs to correct mistakes and make sure the right decision is made when the game is on the line. If you are rigging a game you are better off not using instant replay and having "human error" as an excuse for biased officiating.
2. New CBA that was signed helps small markets be more competitive by increasing revenue sharing and allowing teams to re-sign players for an extra season as an incentive not to leave the team for a bigger market. If league wanted all their stars in big markets they wouldn't have made that rule. They also made the luxury tax super punitive to discourage big markets from over spending.
3. Adam Silver works for ALL 30 owners. Most owners are ultra competitive and would never allow their team to get screwed over deliberately by the commissioner. Adam Silver gets paid by the owners, he is not above them. They can fire him. There is no way someone like Mark Cuban would green light his team getting screwed over for the good of the game.
4. TV money is a fixed amount and guaranteed. The NBA just signed a 10 year tv deal. They get a certain amount regardless of how high or low the ratings are and don't renegotiate those tv rights for another decade. It doesnt matter if 5 million or 20 million people watch game 7 the league gets paid a fixed amount regardless.
5. NBA draft lottery is taped and shown on nba.com and has a representative from each team monitoring it. Yet all its going to take is the Lakers to win it once and all of a sudden "the NBA is rigged" nutjobs will start conspiracy theories. In the NHL the Edmonton Oilers won the lottery three times recently. Had it been a big market team that won it everyone would say its rigged...but conveniently ignore it when small markets win the lotttery.
6. Fans of all 30 teams complain about officiating and think the game is rigged against their team...its never the opponent getting screwed, its only their team. What a coincidence.
7. There are a lot of 50/50 calls in basketball and refs have to make a split second decision. Superstars, home teams and veterans usually get the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean Adam Silver instructed the refs to cheat. Deal with it.

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:39 am

It's incredibly sad that this post even had to be made.

BirdIsDaKing · Post #3 » by **BirdIsDaKing** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:45 am

youve got to be kidding me.

Ganji · Post #4 » by **Ganji** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:49 am

vancity604 wrote:7. There are a lot of 50/50 calls in basketball and refs have to make a split second decision. Superstars, home teams and veterans usually get the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean Adam Silver instructed the refs to cheat. Deal with it.

when has Lebron gotten a 50/50 call? When was the last time he got 6 fouls in the game? These Lebron teams are hilarious, every year same thing, they hack ppl left and right, and everyone calls it a good defense. Took Miami a while to understand that they had crap defense, and they just got royal treatment by the refs.

Ganji · Post #5 » by **Ganji** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:51 am

vancity604 wrote:6. Fans of all 30 teams complain about officiating and think the game is rigged against their team...its never the opponent getting screwed, its only their team. What a coincidence.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo[/youtube]

rich316 · Post #6 » by **rich316** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:56 am

Ganji wrote:
vancity604 wrote:7. There are a lot of 50/50 calls in basketball and refs have to make a split second decision. Superstars, home teams and veterans usually get the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean Adam Silver instructed the refs to cheat. Deal with it.

when has Lebron gotten a 50/50 call? When was the last time he got 6 fouls in the game? These Lebron teams are hilarious, every year same thing, they hack ppl left and right, and everyone calls it a good defense. Took Miami a while to understand that they had crap defense, and they just royal treatment by the refs.

I hate diving into ref talk, but this is just so rich from a guy with a Draymond Green sig.

kennethgriffin · Post #7 » by **kennethgriffin** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:57 am

and now the reasons why the nba IS rigged

1. it was proven to be rigged as of August 15, 2007 when Tim Donaghy pleaded guilty to two federal charges related to the investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)

and all it takes is one case to validate all other speculations and doubt going forward

and this is coming from a kobe fan.

kennethgriffin · Post #8 » by **kennethgriffin** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:58 am

Ganji wrote:
vancity604 wrote:6. Fans of all 30 teams complain about officiating and think the game is rigged against their team...its never the opponent getting screwed, its only their team. What a coincidence.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo[/youtube]

that series was definitely rigged to go 7. only reason i have any pride over the 2002 title is because the kings lost fair and square in game 7 and had some games massively in their favour before that

what i can't deny is it was rigged to extend to a game 7

vancity604 · Post #9 » by **vancity604** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:02 am

kennethgriffin wrote:and now the reasons why the nba IS rigged

1. it was proven to be rigged as of August 15, 2007 when Tim Donaghy pleaded guilty to two federal charges related to the investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)

and all it takes is one case to validate all other speculations and doubt going forward

and this is coming from a kobe fan.

no, that doesn't mean its rigged. It just means a crooked ref was secretly betting on games. When the NBA does job interviews do you think they look for refs who are planning on betting on games? There is a big difference between incompetent officiating/betting and the NBA deliberately deciding ahead of time who wins a game/draft lottery.

NBA is not rigged. Its just a convenient excuse when refs make mistakes for frustrated fans (Ayesha Curry)

Fadeaway_Jumper · Post #10 » by **Fadeaway_Jumper** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:11 am

I don't think last nights game was rigged at all. Everytime golden state would get close, the cavs kept hitting big shots to keep distance. Lebron was huge in the 4th quarter .

Golden state had ref & league help getting to the finals so that side shouldn't complain. Warriors will win the series at home so relax everyone

kennethgriffin · Post #11 » by **kennethgriffin** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:15 am

vancity604 wrote:
kennethgriffin wrote:and now the reasons why the nba IS rigged

1. it was proven to be rigged as of August 15, 2007 when Tim Donaghy pleaded guilty to two federal charges related to the investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)

and all it takes is one case to validate all other speculations and doubt going forward

and this is coming from a kobe fan.

no, that doesn't mean its rigged. It just means a crooked ref was secretly betting on games. When the NBA does job interviews do you think they look for refs who are planning on betting on games? There is a big difference between incompetent officiating/betting and the NBA deliberately deciding ahead of time who wins a game/draft lottery.

NBA is not rigged. Its just a convenient excuse when refs make mistakes for frustrated fans (Ayesha Curry)

have you listened to anything tim donaghy said during the trial/investigation or since then?

it wasn't just 1 guy lol

Guest202 · Post #12 » by **Guest202** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:16 am

Down 8... Curry rips Kyrie... it was about to be a 6 point game.

CURRY WAS CALLED FOR A REACH!

Rigged.

Post #13 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:18 am

Guest202 wrote:Down 8... Curry rips Kyrie... it was about to be a 6 point game.

CURRY WAS CALLED FOR A REACH!

Rigged.

BBallInSight · Post #14 » by **BBallInSight** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:24 am

Raptors game 6 was atrocious. There's 0% chance it's not fixed. Even some player behavior is suspect. It's ruining the game. Militant mob refs.

Post #15 » by **Domejandro** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:29 am

Ganji wrote:
vancity604 wrote:7. There are a lot of 50/50 calls in basketball and refs have to make a split second decision. Superstars, home teams and veterans usually get the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean Adam Silver instructed the refs to cheat. Deal with it.

when has Lebron gotten a 50/50 call? When was the last time he got 6 fouls in the game? These Lebron teams are hilarious, every year same thing, they hack ppl left and right, and everyone calls it a good defense. Took Miami a while to understand that they had crap defense, and they just royal treatment by the refs.

To be a Golden State fan and complain about the refs is pretty rich. :lol:

Post #16 » by **Domejandro** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:30 am

I actually agree that the refs influence the games in various directions, the biases go further than just "super-star calls"

doogled · Post #17 » by **doogled** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:35 am

Counterpoint:

Loneshot · Post #18 » by **Loneshot** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:39 am

If the game is rigged then the players are in on it. Curry ended up in too many defensive mismatches. Curry earned his first two fouls. Warriors turned it over early and missed shots. Cleveland out rebounded GS. You live or die by the three, and the Warriors went cold with 1-9 in the first from behind the arc. Curry continued to earn bad fouls.

You only need to watch the game.

Post #19 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:43 am

Because Dick Beveta and David Stern are finally retired

kodo · Post #20 » by **kodo** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:44 am

vancity604 wrote:4. TV money is a fixed amount and guaranteed. The NBA just signed a 10 year tv deal. They get a certain amount regardless of how high or low the ratings are and don't renegotiate those tv rights for another decade. It doesnt matter if 5 million or 20 million people watch game 7 the league gets paid a fixed amount regardless.

You're missing the point of the tin foil hat conspiracy theory about forcing a game 7.

The TV deal is a new thing, the NBA has other sources of revenue, such as ticket sales and ad revenue. The NBA was rich well before that TV deal.

Well, last year, AdAge cited data from ispot.tv indicating that ABC pulled in $223.9 million in advertising revenues over the course of last year’s NBA Finals matchup, which again featured the Cavaliers versus the Warriors. That series only lasted six games, however. A Game 7 is typically a ratings and money-making bonanza. AdAge estimated that had there been a Game 7 last year, it would have likely drawn an audience of 32 million viewers and a 21.2 household rating, up from an average of 20 million viewers and an 11.6 rating for the previous games in the 2015 NBA Finals.

As for the advertising revenues, “A seventh game likely would have tossed another $45 million on the pile,” AdAge reported.

http://time.com/money/4373400/nba-finals-rigged-money-abc-ad-revenues/

I think it's ridiculous to think the NBA would risk rigging games for just $45M, but it is technically true the league makes more money when there are more games.