2016 Regular Season Thread

[Neddy]

the way Grandal played behind the plate tonight, he better hit a game tying solo HR right about now.

[Quake Griffin]

the way Grandal played behind the plate tonight, he better hit a game tying solo HR right about now.

Or we can just give Austin Barnes the shot he has earned.

Hit the DL Yaz.

[Ranma]

I missed last night's game being stuck in traffic taking my roommate to LAX. I overslept on a nap and missed the entirety of Urias' performance. In fact, I woke up in time to see him replaced in the batting order. At least he's continuing his upswing in performance with 5 shutout innings with 8 Ks and 1 BB lowering his ERA to 4.50 on the season.

I haven't had much confidence in our bullpen even with its improved numbers on the season. I heard Hatcher pitched a shutout inning after an extended amount of time off; hopefully, he'll get it through his thick skull to go back to pitching instead of throwing his fastball all the time. Coleman was total garbage in his appearance tonight while Liberatore was not that effective either.

I heard about the Grandal-and-Turner spat, but without seeing it yet, I'll assume it's not a big deal. However, Turner was previously on Puig's case last season while Grandal has a reputation for being difficult based on the comments made by his battery mates in San Diego. In any case, I'm hoping to eventually replace Turner with Yulieski Gurriel or Corey Seager as the regular 3B and I've been advocating to have Austin Barnes get the opportunity to show that he should take over for Grandal as the starting catcher, so I'm not invested in either of them for the long haul.

[Ranma]

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[Quake Griffin]

$40 million a year for Adrian Gonzalez.
Highest fWAR as a Dodger: 3.5

There's like 3 $40 million [level] players in the league: Harper, Trout, Machado....and they're all 9-10 fWAR players.


Unbelievable.

[Quake Griffin]

I missed last night's game being stuck in traffic taking my roommate to LAX. I overslept on a nap and missed the entirety of Urias' performance. In fact, I woke up in time to see him replaced in the batting order. At least he's continuing his upswing in performance with 5 shutout innings with 8 Ks and 1 BB lowering his ERA to 4.50 on the season.

I haven't had much confidence in our bullpen even with its improved numbers on the season. I heard Hatcher pitched a shutout inning after an extended amount of time off; hopefully, he'll get it through his thick skull to go back to pitching instead of throwing his fastball all the time. Coleman was total garbage in his appearance tonight while Liberatore was not that effective either.

I heard about the Grandal-and-Turner spat, but without seeing it yet, I'll assume it's not a big deal. However, Turner was previously on Puig's case last season while Grandal has a reputation for being difficult based on the comments made by his battery mates in San Diego. In any case, I'm hoping to eventually replace Turner with Yulieski Gurriel or Corey Seager as the regular 3B and I've been advocating to have Austin Barnes get the opportunity to show that he should take over for Grandal as the starting catcher, so I'm not invested in either of them for the long haul.

Justin needs to hit (thank God it looks like he is):

1) for this current team; and
2) So we can give him this QO and not have him pull a Brett Anderson....it was stupid to give it to Brett to begin with.
edit: Between him and Kenley, we should have 2 extra picks in the 1st round again.

Gurriel is Turner's age.
How come NOBODY has any concerns with him getting old?
[Cuban] Black don't crack?

[Ranma]

$40 million a year for Adrian Gonzalez.
Highest fWAR as a Dodger: 3.5

There's like 3 $40 million [level] players in the league: Harper, Trout, Machado....and they're all 9-10 fWAR players.


Unbelievable.

Wait. Am I missing something? Spotrac has A-Gon's salary at $21 million this season and $21.5 million in each of the next two seasons (not counting signing bonus). He's certainly overpaid but not at that outrageous level.

[Quake Griffin]

$40 million a year for Adrian Gonzalez.
Highest fWAR as a Dodger: 3.5

There's like 3 $40 million [level] players in the league: Harper, Trout, Machado....and they're all 9-10 fWAR players.


Unbelievable.

Wait. Am I missing something? Spotrac has A-Gon's salary at $21 million this season and $21.5 million in each of the next two seasons (not counting signing bonus). He's certainly overpaid but not at that outrageous level.

Carl Crawford.

[Ranma]

Justin needs to hit (thank God it looks like he is):

1) for this current team; and
2) So we can give him this QO and not have him pull a Brett Anderson....it was stupid to give it to Brett to begin with.
edit: Between him and Kenley, we should have 2 extra picks in the 1st round again.

Gurriel is Turner's age.
How come NOBODY has any concerns with him getting old?
[Cuban] Black don't crack?

I still don't mind giving the qualifying offer to Brett Anderson as it was a fairly safe assumption that he would opt out given that he pitched a full season last year. In fact, I hope we give him another QO this winter if he comes back and pitches 2nd half of this season just because it helps with my strategy to blow out the draft budget for 2017. The upcoming free agency class is seriously lacking in pitching, especially since Strasburg signed his extension with the Nationals. Some team is bound to be desperate for pitching this offseason and Anderson is still young. It's far from a guarantee but the aim is to get 3 draft picks for Kazmir, Anderson, and Jansen to go along with our own 1st-round selection. I think it's worth the risk to pay for another year provided he shows some health this season.

You make a good point about Yuli's age, but despite actually being slightly older than Turner, Yulieski Gurriel is the more versatile of the two given his health due to less wear-and-tear on this body from shorter seasons and not having to endure recent microfracture surgery. Just as Indiana Jones said in Raiders of the Lost Ark: "It's not the years, it's the mileage." In addition to Gurriel's natural ability, he can play 3B, 2B, and 1B while Turner is pretty much stuck at 3B and maybe 1B or LF. I'm not against keeping Red Beard on the team as a reserve but his lack of versatility makes a case against that.

[Ranma]

Carl Crawford.

Aw. I see. I don't want to put that on A-Gon as that was a failure by McCourt and Colletti. McCourt for trying to juice the gate receipts with the Hispanic crowd-favorite and Colletti for not doing a lick of negotiation. I mean, we had to take back Josh Beckett too. No one else in baseball--including the Yankees--was going to take on that type of long-term salary commitment when Boston was trying to rebuild. Colletti, in fact, did more to help the Red Sox win the World Series than he did to make the Dodgers competitive. We're still feeling the long-lasting effects of that bad deal. If it weren't for the money coming from Time-Warner Cable and the Guggenheim Partners' blessings, we'd be near or at the bottom of the league standings right now.

I certainly wanted Gonzalez on the Dodgers myself but there were definitely limits as to what I was willing to do to get him. Colletti and McCourt exceeded those limits beyond reason. What is further infuriating is that McCourt nixed the acquisition of Vladimir Guerrero then-GM Dan Evans lined up before he officially took ownership in kowtowing to Selig and the rest of the owners, which is why I'm so happy to see Friedman & Co. flip the bird to MLB whenever we break the bank on salary for big-name signings (within logical reason).

[Quake Griffin]

Carl Crawford.

Aw. I see. I don't want to put that on A-Gon as that was a failure by McCourt and Colletti. McCourt for trying to juice the gate receipts with the Hispanic crowd-favorite and Colletti for not doing a lick of negotiation. I mean, we had to take back Josh Beckett too. No one else in baseball--including the Yankees--was going to take on that type of long-term salary commitment when Boston was trying to rebuild. Colletti, in fact, did more to help the Red Sox win the World Series than he did to make the Dodgers' competitive. We're still feeling the long-lasting effects of that bad deal. If it weren't for the money coming from Time-Warner Cable and the Guggenheim Partners' blessings, we'd be near or at the bottom of the league standing right now.

I don't put it on A-Gon AT ALL. I put it on Colletti (I remember Neddy warned me about this deal). But the truth is the truth.
I believe that deal happened under Guggenheim btw....they come in June or July 2012, that deal happens before the waiver wire deadline at the end of August.



VENABLE!
Please don't piss the fans off.
just get him in.

[Neddy]

Carl Crawford.

Aw. I see. I don't want to put that on A-Gon as that was a failure by McCourt and Colletti. McCourt for trying to juice the gate receipts with the Hispanic crowd-favorite and Colletti for not doing a lick of negotiation. I mean, we had to take back Josh Beckett too. No one else in baseball--including the Yankees--was going to take on that type of long-term salary commitment when Boston was trying to rebuild. Colletti, in fact, did more to help the Red Sox win the World Series than he did to make the Dodgers' competitive. We're still feeling the long-lasting effects of that bad deal. If it weren't for the money coming from Time-Warner Cable and the Guggenheim Partners' blessings, we'd be near or at the bottom of the league standing right now.

I don't put it on A-Gon AT ALL. I put it on Colletti (I remember Neddy warned me about this deal). But the truth is the truth.
I believe that deal happened under Guggenheim btw....they come in June or July 2012, that deal happens before the waiver wire deadline at the end of August.



VENABLE!
Please don't piss the fans off.
just get him in.

Guggenheim did it not for the baseball reasons but for the TV deal reasons. but yeah I was never a fan of that deal.


but hey we just won this game!

[Quake Griffin]

Justin Turner carrying the load on offense.

Incredible and just the type of performance from him our entire fan base was looking for this year.

[Ranma]

I don't put it on A-Gon AT ALL. I put it on Colletti (I remember Neddy warned me about this deal). But the truth is the truth.
I believe that deal happened under Guggenheim btw....they come in June or July 2012, that deal happens before the waiver wire deadline at the end of August.

I added some more thoughts after your reply but it has to do with our aggressive attitude with spending big money on the open market whether that is in domestic free agency or international signings.

You're absolutely right about it being a directive from Guggenheim as opposed to McCourt. I keep associating it with McCourt because of the Boston connection. Like you said, it was entirely on Colletti. This is exactly why I hate having that mustached moron still representing the organization in a figurehead role on the Dodgers' network. Geez, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a double agent for the Giants given his previous association with them and the bad deals he's concocted.

[Neddy]

I don't put it on A-Gon AT ALL. I put it on Colletti (I remember Neddy warned me about this deal). But the truth is the truth.
I believe that deal happened under Guggenheim btw....they come in June or July 2012, that deal happens before the waiver wire deadline at the end of August.

I added some more thoughts after your reply but it has to do with our aggressive attitude with spending big money on the open market whether that is in domestic free agency or international signings.

You're absolutely right about it being a directive from Guggenheim as opposed to McCourt. I keep associating it with McCourt because of the Boston connection. Like you said, it was entirely on Colletti. This is exactly why I hate having that mustached moron still representing the organization in a figurehead role on the Dodgers' network. Geez, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a double agent for the Giants given his previous association with them and bad deals he's concocted.

like that 39 million deal for retired Jason Schmitt?

[Ranma]

like that 39 million deal for retired Jason Schmitt?

Let's not forget Andruw Jones.

[Quake Griffin]

Anybody have a clear idea on what we're going to do with Urias? Looks like Dave promised him another start and then it is up in the air.

Have we ever seen a team shut down a younger guy just so they could bring him back at the end of the year?
Two of em????

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=13273&position=P
^^^^
this guy right here isn't throwing at all...look at his AAA stats. He did that the 1st week he was sent down.

[Neddy]

Anybody have a clear idea on what we're going to do with Urias? Looks like Dave promised him another start and then it is up in the air.

Have we ever seen a team shut down a younger guy just so they could bring him back at the end of the year?
Two of em????

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=13273&position=P
^^^^
this guy right here isn't throwing at all...look at his AAA stats. He did that the 1st week he was sent down.

it seems like they are trying to time it with Ryu's rehab starts. and shutting Urias down is the right move.

[Quake Griffin]

You have me wondering if Kaz needs to hit the DL for his thumb to heal when those 2 get healthy and get back....

Joc at the top of the lineup tonight.
No Chase.

[Quake Griffin]

Cannot wait until we get healthy so stop gap players like Bolsinger aren't in the rotation anymore.


Kid was throwing batting practice today. People paid money to go watch tonight. Some of us look forward to watching our club.
FOH.