The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

[Frank Lee]

Almost any move we can make, Ainge can trump it

[andguy22]

And YOUR a Moderator ??

[andguy22]

Almost any move we can make, Ainge can trump it

Pretty much

[DRK]

Heres a plan. How about actually watching DÁngelo Russell play instead of judging him from what people say in youtube comments, or reading box scores?

Here's a plan , Rather than making a complete tool out of yourself , Why not just have a CONVERSATION with fellow members , rather than trying to be witty , funny , or masculine. ??

instead of judging him from what people say in youtube comments, or reading box scores?

. Where or WHY would you believe that my opinion was based off of,,,,,," youtube comments, or reading box scores? " ??.

I have watched him play,,,,,,,,,,,AND I WASN'T IMPRESSED !!

Now I'm truly sorry if I have hurt your feelings , or offended you by stating MY OPINION . But they were simply MY OPINIONS .

They were not meant to be aimed directly at YOU or anyone else , just my observations.

Heres a plan. How about actually watching DÁngelo Russell play instead of judging him from what people say in youtube comments, or reading box scores?

Again , I have watched,,,,,,( NEVER ON YOU TUBE THOUGH , And could care less about his stats in the box scores) and personally I'm not impressed whatsoever

I truly am curious to hear your side of the story.

It wasn't a " Story " it was simply my opinion . Besides , No your not , Your just interested in trying to belittle anyone that doesn't agree with you,,,,,,,,Move along

Are you really going to make two rebuttals to one comment I made? I get it. You dont like D'Angelo, but you have never ever stated why you dont like him. Henceforth, tell me why you dont like him, and why you prefer a players like Hield/Dunn and Jamal Murray over Russell.

The man was an elite prospect coming out of Ohio State, and came into a situation with the Lakers which was a total nightmare, and still managed to produce. Russell was not utilised correctly last season at all. If you are basing your opinions on Russell over one season at the Lakers, then I have some news for you. Russell's use on the Lakers last season is the equivalent of having CP3 play as a spot up shooter. Completely misued and under utilized.

[Qwigglez]

So Lakers trade Russell to Boston for No 3 and select Hield/Brown. They gotta be taking Hield with Kobe mentoring him! And then of course we take Ingram at No 4!

[Kerrsed]

So Lakers trade Russell to Boston for No 3 and select Hield/Brown. They gotta be taking Hield with Kobe mentoring him! And then of course we take Ingram at No 4!

And why do you think they are taking Brown?? Everything i have read has said they love Ingram, and even with the #1 pick they would have chose Ingram over Simmons. If the trade is made, its Ingram/Hield not Brown/Hield.

[DRK]

So Lakers trade Russell to Boston for No 3 and select Hield/Brown. They gotta be taking Hield with Kobe mentoring him! And then of course we take Ingram at No 4!

And why do you think they are taking Brown?? Everything i have read has said they love Ingram, and even with the #1 pick they would have chose Ingram over Simmons. If the trade is made, its Ingram/Hield not Brown/Hield.

I have to agree with you on that one. There are reports that Boston love Brown, but I feel if Ingram is on the board they go with Ingram.

[Frank Lee]

And YOUR a Moderator ??

Apparently you didn't get the memo

[Qwigglez]

IDK, I thought I read they liked Brown too. I'm not UTD on who the Lakers want.

[andguy22]

but you have never ever stated why you dont like him.

It's not that I don't " LIKE HIM " . I just don't see him as being heads and shoulders above the top guards in this years draft . Can the guy play ?? Absolutely he can.

But so can the guards in this years draft .

And again I ask, If he was so promising why would the Lakers be willing to trade him 1 year later for an UNPROVEN ??

Would you trade Booker ( Last years #13 pick) for ( Last years #2 pick) Russell ??

I have nothing personal against Russell , But in my opinion,,,,,,,,,,MY OPINION,,,,,,,,,,,Buddy Heild would absolutely kill it if he was on the Lakers , So too would Dunn or Murray. IN MY OPINION .

But I believe that the Lakers ALSO know this , and that's why they'd like to trade him ( IF TRUE) for a top 5 pick

[andguy22]

And YOUR a Moderator ??

Apparently you didn't get the memo

Resend it, My fax machine was off

[Frank Lee]

Reread the last few pages knucklehead. Don't you remember Russell's baffoonery last season with ratting out a fellow fLaker's infidelity?

Its a locker room clean up not a talent issue. Makes sense to most here.


adios

[DRK]

but you have never ever stated why you dont like him.

It's not that I don't " LIKE HIM " . I just don't see him as being heads and shoulders above the top guards in this years draft . Can the guy play ?? Absolutely he can.

I am going to ask for a third time. A THIRD TIME.
WHY?

1.

Henceforth, tell me why you dont like him, and why you prefer a players like Hield/Dunn and Jamal Murray over Russell.

2.

Please enlighten me on how Murray is a better player than Russell. I truly am curious to hear your side of the story.

3.
What makes you prefer someone like Hield/Dunn or Murray over Russell?

Its not a difficult question. It really isnt.

[Kerrsed]

Reread the last few pages knucklehead. Don't you remember Russell's baffoonery last season with ratting out a fellow fLaker's infidelity?

Its a locker room clean up not a talent issue. Makes sense to most here.

The crazy thing was that it wasnt even him that leaked it. Watching the video, Nick Young totally knew he was filming him. Now who actually leaked it?

As if the controversy over Nick Young, 30, admitting to D’Angelo Russell, 20, that he was cheating on Iggy Azalea, 25, needed to get any more outrageous, here comes Nicki Minaj, 33. Though D’Angelo filmed Nick’s confession, it was Nicki that allegedly leaked the video the Internet!


“Somebody from Nicki Minaj’s camp, a source, got the video, and they sent it in,” a writer for Famelous told ESPN 97.5 FM during the HD Show on March 30. “And they said here, ‘put this out, because Iggy wants to talk mess about Nicki Minaj. Put this out and let her know what her fiancé is doing.’”

What could have possibly prompted one of Nicki’s people to allegedly leak this video? In shades of the brutal feud between Nicki’s bae, Meek Mill, 28, and Drake, 29, Iggy allegedly “took a couple shots at Nicki…on Bravo TV,” the Famelous writer said. Basically, Iggy said that Nicki wasn’t “the only person who writes her raps,” just like how Meek accused Drake of using a ghostwriter.

“It had nothing to do with the basketball players,” according to Famelous source, noting that though D’Angelo put the video on Snapchat Live, but “it was just sitting there” until someone in the “Anaconda” rapper’s crew passed it off to Famelous. The basketball players are feeling the backlash from it, though, as Russell was mercilessly booed whenever he joined his squad, the Los Angeles Lakers, in their game against the Miami Heat.

[Qwigglez]

^That's like some modern game of thrones stuff right there!

[nevetsov]

I was under the impression teams aren't actually obligated to reach the salary floor?

For those teams who don't, I thought the difference in dollars between total salary and salary floor was divided up and split amongst the playing group. Almost certain that used to be the case.

Can someone legit confirm this isn't the case this year too?

[andguy22]

Reread the last few pages knucklehead. Don't you remember Russell's baffoonery last season with ratting out a fellow fLaker's infidelity?

Its a locker room clean up not a talent issue. Makes sense to most here.


adios

Reread the last few pages knucklehead

First of all , Watch it

Don't you remember Russell's baffoonery last season with ratting out a fellow fLaker's infidelity?

Yes, I remember it quite well .

Its a locker room clean up not a talent issue. Makes sense to most here.

I could care less if the Lakers have a locker room issue . But let's be realistic here,,,,,,,,Do you HONESTLY think that the Lakers would be offering him if he was so " PROMISING" ??

And you say it's a ,,,,,,,,,,," locker room clean up",,,,,??,,,, What locker room is that ??? Right, The Lakers need to get rid of their #2 pick so that ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,( Fill in the blank),,,,,,,,,,,,,Doesn't get upset Remind me what player that is . Good ol Nick ?,,,,,,,,You talking about Swaggy , the 31 year old? Right , Let's get rid of our #2 pick so that Swaggy feels more comfortable in the locker room

You're right,,,,,What was I thinking ?? I completely understand your logic NOW,,,,,,,,,,,Yes, Yes, The Lakers are in dire need of cleaning up their locker room

[Kerrsed]

I was under the impression teams aren't actually obligated to reach the salary floor?

For those teams who don't, I thought the difference in dollars between total salary and salary floor was divided up and split amongst the playing group. Almost certain that used to be the case.

Can someone legit confirm this isn't the case this year too?

It is the case, every year, including this year as well.

If teams do not meet the salary cap floor, they must distribute the shortfall to the players on their roster. This means that if a team’s salary at the end of the season falls $10M short of the $80.1M salary floor next season, they must distribute that $10M to the players on their roster.

In regards to how that money is distributed to such players, the NBA Player’s Association must submit a proposal to the NBA to determine the distribution ratio.

With so many teams having team salaries that project far below the NBA’s salary floor next summer, we can only anticipate one thing: players will be compensated (via new contracts signed or shortfall distributions) much more than they were likely worth in the past.

For instance, the Philadelphia 76ers — a team highly unlikely to spend significant money on free agents next summer — could have $50M in cap room. This means that if the Sixers don’t add roughly $41M to team salary by the end of next season, they will be forced to pay their players an amount well over what they are worth.

More specifically, if we assume that Philly adds a player in 2016-17 similar to the Javale McGee acquisition last season, their cap room would hover around $30M. Unless they can add more players in a similar fashion to McGee, an evenly distributed $30M to 13 players would be roughly $2.3M per player.

For someone such as newly signed guard Scottie Wilbekin, that amount would nearly triple his 2016-17 base compensation of $875k (if still on the roster).

For reference, the only two teams to fall short of the salary floor since the 2011 collective bargaining agreement was put in place are the Orlando Magic ($1.9M) and Denver Nuggets ($774k) last season.

Team’s don’t often like to finish below the salary cap floor and pay their players more than they are worth. This is why we often see teams who are in danger of falling short of the floor acquire players mid-season such as Javale McGee, as mentioned above.

Though McGee’s entire $11.25M 2014-15 salary was charged to Philadelphia’s team salary last season, the Sixers were only responsible for actually paying him from the date they acquired him until the end of the season. Therefore, teams often use this loophole to avoid shelling out money equal to 90% of the salary cap.

But will this even be a viable strategy next season when nearly every team has cap room? Teams can still save money in this manner, but avoiding salary floor shortfall payments could be difficult if there are several teams looking to take this approach.

Not only will this odd phenomena of shortfall payments be an issue next summer, but with the cap projected to rise drastically again to $109M in 2017, we could see a similar situation take place.

Think about a player who signed a 3-year contract this summer at around $1M each season. If their team winds up under the salary cap floor in both 2016-17 and 2017-18, that player could end up doubling his base compensation in years two and three of his contract.

Though the talk has been (and rightfully so) about the effect that the new cap projections will have on both the free agent classes of next summer and the summer thereafter, some of the biggest beneficiaries of the new TV deal could be low salaried players on teams with significant cap room the next two years.

https://sabiu.wordpress.com/2015/08/11/the-unintended-beneficiaries-of-the-nbas-salary-cap-increase/

[Kerrsed]

First of all , Watch it

Dont threaten other posters, otherwise your yearly offseason posts will be quickly cut short.

[andguy22]

I am going to ask for a third time. A THIRD TIME.
WHY?

Good Lord Man,,,,,,Really ?? First of all , You REALLY need to chill .

I personally would prefer Heild, or Murray over Russell . WHY ?? Because that's my opinion , plain and simple .

Now rather than accepting my OPINION you act as if I called you outta name or something (( Think you're doing so purposely ))