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Post#121 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:31 am

I seriously think we could get Love in trade for Millsap straight up this summer.

I'd make that move in a heartbeat. It makes us younger, gets an All Star under longer contract, improves the offense. (Though, admittedly, the defense would suffer. We'd have to make some scheme adjustments to account for that clear weakness n K Love's game.


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Post#123 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:56 pm

One game. Winner takes the championship.

Steph can cement himself as an all time great with consecutive NBA titles along with his consecutive NBA MVPs.

Or LeBron can re-establish his legacy as the greatest player of his generation.

Everything is on the line. As a sports of fan...this is everything you hope for.

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Post#125 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:13 am

Cavs offense is abysmal tonight. All isolation shots or fast breaks. Almost no passing at all.

It's mind boggling that there is no movement from the Cavs players.

They sit at the three point line waiting for the pass. Allowing Warriors defenders to collapse on the ball carrier.

Bad offense. And it appears to be strategy. Sit back and allow Kyrie and LeBron to do all the heavy lifting...


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Post#126 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:15 am

Even the Ws seem tentative tonight, the difference n the first half is, undoubtedly, Draymond having the game of his life.


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Post#127 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:54 am

LeBron with one of the greatest performances in Finals history this series.

One of the greatest to ever pick up a basketball. And the asterisk is officially removed from his career.

I'm not even a LBJ guy, but dude has been a man possessed of late. The better team lost. The better coach lost.

And it's because the best player on the planet carried his team to victory.
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Post#128 » by ATL Boy » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:57 am

Lebron cemented himself as a top 5 player of all time with this title IMO. He put an entire city on his back and didn't break under the pressure, that's impressive.

Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.


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Post#129 » by MaceCase » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:12 am

ATL Boy wrote:Lebron cemented himself as a top 5 player of all time with this title IMO. He put an entire city on his back and didn't break under the pressure, that's impressive.

Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.


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Come on, the Braves won just over 20 years ago, surely there has to be some other city sitting on a kajillion year drought in all major sports.
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Post#130 » by Hawk Eye » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:26 am

ATL Boy wrote:Lebron cemented himself as a top 5 player of all time with this title IMO. He put an entire city on his back and didn't break under the pressure, that's impressive.

Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.


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I am right there with you. His performance in games 5 and 6 were just unreal. Being the first team in Finals history to overcome a 3-1 deficit is impressive on its own--now add in the fact that they did it against the GOAT regular season team? As Kyrie said "It's one for the books".

But yea people on the GB seem to be ready to declare him #2 right behind Jordan. I'm not quite there as I don't have him over Jordan, Russell, or Kareem but I think he can get there. Definitely in my top 5 though.

And it's okay, Georgia winning the national Championship next year in Kirby Smart's first year as HC will make it somewhat more tolerable :D
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Post#131 » by ATL Boy » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:36 am

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ATL Boy wrote:Lebron cemented himself as a top 5 player of all time with this title IMO. He put an entire city on his back and didn't break under the pressure, that's impressive.

Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.


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Come on, the Braves won just over 20 years ago, surely there has to be some other city sitting on a kajillion year drought in all major sports.

In terms of drought there's DC, Minnesota, Milwaukee (although not really, Green Bay may not be in Milwaukee but it's still Wisconsin's team), and Buffalo.

But looking at the complete picture, I'd be hard pressed to say that Atlanta hasn't had it worse, even with the lone title in 1995. I mean having the team of the 90's in baseball and still only winning once ('91 featuring a critical WS baserunning mistake); Never doing anything in basketball; the Falcons blowing home playoff leads + having a pro bowl safety arrested the night before the '98 SB; and losing 2 hockey teams to Canada. Atlanta teams choke so much in the playoffs that it's become clockwork.
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Post#132 » by MaceCase » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:18 am

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ATL Boy wrote:Lebron cemented himself as a top 5 player of all time with this title IMO. He put an entire city on his back and didn't break under the pressure, that's impressive.

Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.


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Come on, the Braves won just over 20 years ago, surely there has to be some other city sitting on a kajillion year drought in all major sports.

In terms of drought there's DC, Minnesota, Milwaukee (although not really, Green Bay may not be in Milwaukee but it's still Wisconsin's team), and Buffalo.

But looking at the complete picture, I'd be hard pressed to say that Atlanta hasn't had it worse, even with the lone title in 1995. I mean having the team of the 90's in baseball and still only winning once ('91 featuring a critical WS baserunning mistake); Never doing anything in basketball; the Falcons blowing home playoff leads + having a pro bowl safety arrested the night before the '98 SB; and losing 2 hockey teams to Canada. Atlanta teams choke so much in the playoffs that it's become clockwork.

No way, if we're really looking at the complete picture you can take everything you just said and multiply it by 30 in terms of loss and embarrassment felt and then multiply it by 3 in terms of time elapsed to get Atlanta to come even close to what Cleveland suffered. Atlanta is basically just "a town that hasn't won a championship in a few decades".

Terms of curses, when you have places like Buffalo and Cleveland whose actual city economies collapsed and residents fled by the hundreds of thousand coupled with the cold weather.......all they have is their sports and then add all the misery that came with them with such heartbreaking moments that can be defined across history by only two words such as "the catch/shot/drive/decision" or "wide right". I mean, think losing two hockey teams to Canada is bad? Try having an American football team being dangled as moving to Toronto or the Browns, the actual Browns, moving to Baltimore and winning not 1 but 2 Super Bowls.

I don't know, Atlanta sports history has been too "meh" for me to cry all out "curse" yet. Between the city status, booming other entertainment attractions, not even quarter century long drought, having teams not really be considered contenders by the fans, and then no successful regional blood rival thumbing their nose it's hard for me to cry "all I want to see before I die...." when I'd have to be younger than the legal drinking age for that to be true and even then....you're being waaaaaaaaay too pessimistic if you're a 20 year old. At the minimum you're looking at two spanking new state of the art facilities for the Braves and Falcons when you're still scratching your head wondering wasn't there a big ass renovation not all that long ago? Even Phillips is supposedly going underneath the knife and it isn't even old enough to buy cigarettes.....even before they kicked up the legal age.

So in other words.....could be worse* :dontknow:

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Post#133 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:44 pm

ATL Boy wrote:Atlanta also just became the most cursed sports city in the nation, so there's that.



That's definitely the narrative making it's way around the sports world:

With Cavaliers win in NBA Finals, is Atlanta now the most cursed sports town in America?

Answer: Maybe.
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Post#134 » by DirtybirdGA » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:07 pm

Braves also choked 20 years ago, screwing up a chance at a back to back World Title, thanks for reminding Mark Bradley.
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Post#135 » by Geaux_Hawks » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:59 pm

So Houston just gets completely overlooked I guess..

The Braves carried Atlanta throughout the 90's and early 00's enough that calling the city cursed is unjust. 3 WS appearances and a title with 14 straight division titles is a pretty good run I would say, and the Rockets have never had that much success.

The Falcons have at least made it to the SB unlike the Oilers/Texans. The Stro's/Hawks are a push, but again, the Braves gives us enough advantage to say we're not the most cursed city.
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Post#136 » by jayu70 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:11 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:So Houston just gets completely overlooked I guess..

The Braves carried Atlanta throughout the 90's and early 00's enough that calling the city cursed is unjust. 3 WS appearances and a title with 14 straight division titles is a pretty good run I would say, and the Rockets have never had that much success.

The Falcons have at least made it to the SB unlike the Oilers/Texans. The Stro's/Hawks are a push, but again, the Braves gives us enough advantage to say we're not the most cursed city.

The Rockets do have 2 championships.
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Post#137 » by Geaux_Hawks » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:09 pm

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Geaux_Hawks wrote:So Houston just gets completely overlooked I guess..

The Braves carried Atlanta throughout the 90's and early 00's enough that calling the city cursed is unjust. 3 WS appearances and a title with 14 straight division titles is a pretty good run I would say, and the Rockets have never had that much success.

The Falcons have at least made it to the SB unlike the Oilers/Texans. The Stro's/Hawks are a push, but again, the Braves gives us enough advantage to say we're not the most cursed city.

The Rockets do have 2 championships.

True, but the Braves were known by everyone as the "Team of the 90's", so we have enough recent success to avoid being the most cursed sports city in the country.
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Post#138 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:24 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:True, but the Braves were known by everyone as the "Team of the 90's", so we have enough recent success to avoid being the most cursed sports city in the country.


You do remember it has literally been decades since that title. An entire generation of ATL fans don't even remember the damn thing.

And the Yankees, much to my chagrin, wrestled away the title of team of the 90's with multiple titles in the last half of the decade.



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