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Re: Bledsoe rumors? 

Post#21 » by saintEscaton » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:58 am

darealjuice wrote:I'd like for Bledsoe to get his biannual year of being completely healthy, increase his trade value to/beyond pre-injury levels, and sell high at deadline/next offseason for a draft pick and hopefully more.

If he can stay healthy I wouldn't be against keeping him either. This just feels like a bad time to trade him, and I'm not a huge fan of this draft.


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Re: Bledsoe rumors? 

Post#22 » by darealjuice » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:58 am

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darealjuice wrote:I'd like for Bledsoe to get his biannual year of being completely healthy, increase his trade value to/beyond pre-injury levels, and sell high at deadline/next offseason for a draft pick and hopefully more.

If he can stay healthy I wouldn't be against keeping him either. This just feels like a bad time to trade him, and I'm not a huge fan of this draft.


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Post#23 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:02 am

darealjuice wrote:I'd like for Bledsoe to get his biannual year of being completely healthy, increase his trade value to/beyond pre-injury levels, and sell high at deadline/next offseason for a draft pick and hopefully more.


As high as I am on him, and where we are in our rebuild, that might be the logical thing to do, but only if we get a good enough package. He's still young enough to be part of the core so if we believe we can keep him healthy, I'd ultimately like to keep him barring a great offer. I don't think he will likely get an offer matching his talent though because of the injury history.
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Re: Bledsoe rumors? 

Post#24 » by sunsbum » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:19 am

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ginobiliflops wrote:Bled for 8, WCS. :)


We will throw in Len too. But who do we take at 8 to be Bledsoe's successor? Dunn will be off the board and that may be too early for Baldwin/D.Murray/Jackson


Dude Alex Len is going to bust out this year, I truely believe that. I know lots of people are down on him after last year but he is a smidge of consistency away from being a good center.
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Re: Bledsoe rumors? 

Post#25 » by rsavaj » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:20 am

I don't think Sacramento would trade Bledsoe for WCS straight up TBH. They're high on him like we are on Booker.

Bledsoe for 8 seems doable but light on value for us
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Post#26 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:34 am

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ginobiliflops wrote:Bled for 8, WCS. :)


We will throw in Len too. But who do we take at 8 to be Bledsoe's successor? Dunn will be off the board and that may be too early for Baldwin/D.Murray/Jackson


Dude Alex Len is going to bust out this year, I truely believe that. I know lots of people are down on him after last year but he is a smidge of consistency away from being a good center.


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2013 NBA Draft: Top 10 Center Prospects

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1. Steven Adams 7-0 255 C Pittsburgh Fr.

Scouts eyes will be glued to the Pittsburgh center who earned their attention just a few summers ago.

Like most 19-year old seven-footers, Adams has a raw offensive skill-set, yet has shown flashes of a face-up game from the elbow and some back-to-the-basket moves on the low block. As a freshman, he'll likely do most of his damage off the ball- blocking shots, finishing and tipping in loose balls thanks to his size, strength and mobility.

Unless a team falls in love with his long-term potential right away, it will probably be best for Adams to play one year in the Big East and one in the ACC. He's got top lottery upside given he shows steady development.

2. Rudy Gobert 7-1 240 C France 1992

Gobert's unprecedented length (7'9 wingspan) at 7'1 makes it easier to overlook his lack of offensive prowess. Which makes it all the more intriguing that his skill-level has been praised. He has yet to put up any legitimate stats on the European senior level, but his intrigue lies in his length and upside.

He clearly needs to get stronger, especially since he'll spend most of his time inside. But with unmatchable measurements a nice feel for the game and some decent touch on his shot, he'll be a factor above the rim offensively and a disruptive presence defensively.

3. Alex Len 7-1 240 C Maryland So.

Len showed toughness for a 7'1 freshman, after gaining valuable experience playing for Ukraine's U18 national team. As a freshman, he displayed some explosiveness finishing at the rim, while swatting two shots a game in only 21 minutes of action.

He only averaged 4 shot attempts per game, so becoming a bigger focus of the offense will be his next responsibility. Len's upside was flashed during specific plays rather games or stretches, but it was enough to raise some eyebrows knowing he has time to gradually develop.

4. Alec Brown 7-0 240 C Wisc. Green Bay Jr.

Brown is finesse seven-footer with excellent touch at the high and low post. Jumpers at the elbow and over-the-shoulder hooks are both in his repertoire, and remain difficult to contest thanks to his size and high release point.

He's also nimble and light-footed, contributing 3 blocks a game as an active body in the paint. Brown could solidify a spot in the first round with another strong year at Wisconsin-Green Bay.

5. Gorgui Dieng 6-10 255 PF/C Louisville Jr.

Dieng is a human space-eater with a reserved parking spot right in the middle of the lane. He's gotten stronger over the offseason, which should practically assure him a nightly double-double after averaging 9 points, 9 boards and 3 blocks as a junior.

Dieng probably won't be looked at as a source for points at the next level, but the impact he can make defensively could attract teams looking for depth at the center position.
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Re: Bledsoe rumors? 

Post#27 » by saintEscaton » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:46 am

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ginobiliflops wrote:Bled for 8, WCS. :)


We will throw in Len too. But who do we take at 8 to be Bledsoe's successor? Dunn will be off the board and that may be too early for Baldwin/D.Murray/Jackson


Dude Alex Len is going to bust out this year, I truely believe that. I know lots of people are down on him after last year but he is a smidge of consistency away from being a good center.


I hope Len "busts" out in the right sense. WCS was arguably better than Len as a rookie, he can occasionally hit baseline jumpers, even knocked a turnaround fadeaway off one foot against Dirk and has a softer touch around the rim and the reliable hands to finish lobs/roll as a diveman. He is also really fluid in the open court as a rim runner. and is just about as furhter as long when it comes postm oves asLen. He seemed more coordianted with his back to the basket and flashed some nice footwork pivoting. We witnessed that first hand. I think he can be like a prime Chandler/Noah hybrid. Not quite the rebounder Chandler was but similiar rim protector, and as good containing the PnR as Noah minus the playmaking/offensive cerebrality. He has the ability to guard positions 1-5. He is a better team defender in space with his ability to hedge/recover which is more valuable nowadays. His lateral agility/ 3/4 court spritn is off the charts, he is a tier below Noel as prospect but he may be better stepping out to the perimeter and has the body to handle bangers down low
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Post#28 » by sunsbum » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:11 am

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We will throw in Len too. But who do we take at 8 to be Bledsoe's successor? Dunn will be off the board and that may be too early for Baldwin/D.Murray/Jackson


Dude Alex Len is going to bust out this year, I truely believe that. I know lots of people are down on him after last year but he is a smidge of consistency away from being a good center.


I hope Len "busts" out in the right sense. WCS was arguably better than Len as a rookie, he can hit baseline jumpers, even knocked a turnaround fadeaway off one foot against Dirk and has a softer touch around the rim and the reliable hands to finish lobs/roll as a diveman. He is also really fluid in the open court as a rim runner. We witnessed that first hand. I think he can be like a prime Chandler/Noah hybrid. Not quite the rebounder Chandler was but similiar rim protector, and as good containing the PnR as Noah was with the ability to guard positions 1-5. He is a better team defender in space with his ability to hedge/recover which is more valuable nowadays


Yea but we dont have WCS. I mean it would be super cool if Mcd had a time machine but that ole relic alex len is all we got!
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Post#29 » by TeamTragic » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:15 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Bled for 8, WCS. :)


Where was this trade rumored? Exactly.
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Post#30 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:36 am

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Dude Alex Len is going to bust out this year, I truely believe that. I know lots of people are down on him after last year but he is a smidge of consistency away from being a good center.


I hope Len "busts" out in the right sense. WCS was arguably better than Len as a rookie, he can hit baseline jumpers, even knocked a turnaround fadeaway off one foot against Dirk and has a softer touch around the rim and the reliable hands to finish lobs/roll as a diveman. He is also really fluid in the open court as a rim runner. We witnessed that first hand. I think he can be like a prime Chandler/Noah hybrid. Not quite the rebounder Chandler was but similiar rim protector, and as good containing the PnR as Noah was with the ability to guard positions 1-5. He is a better team defender in space with his ability to hedge/recover which is more valuable nowadays


Yea but we dont have WCS. I mean it would be super cool if Mcd had a time machine but that ole relic alex len is all we got!


Well I think he's still talking about throwing Len into a deal with Bledsoe for #8 AND WCS so in that case, we WOULD have him.
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Post#31 » by sunsbum » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:56 am

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I hope Len "busts" out in the right sense. WCS was arguably better than Len as a rookie, he can hit baseline jumpers, even knocked a turnaround fadeaway off one foot against Dirk and has a softer touch around the rim and the reliable hands to finish lobs/roll as a diveman. He is also really fluid in the open court as a rim runner. We witnessed that first hand. I think he can be like a prime Chandler/Noah hybrid. Not quite the rebounder Chandler was but similiar rim protector, and as good containing the PnR as Noah was with the ability to guard positions 1-5. He is a better team defender in space with his ability to hedge/recover which is more valuable nowadays


Yea but we dont have WCS. I mean it would be super cool if Mcd had a time machine but that ole relic alex len is all we got!


Well I think he's still talking about throwing Len into a deal with Bledsoe for #8 AND WCS so in that case, we WOULD have him.



Oh I see. I dont like to dabble much in those fantasy trades.
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Post#32 » by Damkac » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:38 am

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ginobiliflops wrote:Bled for 8, WCS. :)


We will throw in Len too. But who do we take at 8 to be Bledsoe's successor? Dunn will be off the board and that may be too early for Baldwin/D.Murray/Jackson

But Len has negative value! Suns would have to add 13th at least just to dump his contract.
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Post#33 » by sam-hinkie » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:19 pm

Bledsoe for Noel ? What do Suns fans think


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Post#34 » by Villalobos » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:35 pm

Trading Bledsoe now, the Suns' best player coming off an injury while at his lowest value, would be moronic. Which is why I expect Sarver to be pushing for it.

I also laugh at people wanting to trade Bledsoe to draft Dunn. Bledsoe is probably the best case scenario of what Dunn could be. You can't even say "well, injuries" when Dunn is injury-prone too.
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Post#35 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:37 pm

sam-hinkie wrote:Bledsoe for Noel ? What do Suns fans think


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Would you be willing to throw in a pick or two? Say a future 1st?
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Post#36 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:54 pm

sam-hinkie wrote:Bledsoe for Noel ? What do Suns fans think


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Suns won't do it. If Noel passed the medical tests (not that Bledsoe is injury free but we apparently passed on Noel in draft because we didn't think he'd get through second contract) we could make the trade and draft Dunn and then PF at 13.

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Post#37 » by Frank Lee » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:14 pm

dantley4prez wrote:even if it was a Boogie trade, Bledsoe would be a deal breaker.

if he gets traded, then i have absolutely no compass with this team, and i'll be a lot less bold from then on.



So you DONT have faith in Brandon Knight to effectively run this team ? Can he run any team ?

I'd do WCS + #8 and run
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Post#38 » by sam-hinkie » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:58 pm

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sam-hinkie wrote:Bledsoe for Noel ? What do Suns fans think


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Would you be willing to throw in a pick or two? Say a future 1st?

24 pick this year and Noel sounds fine too me


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Post#39 » by Fo-Real » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:31 am

Does not sound fine to me, hell no.
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Post#40 » by LukasBMW » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:55 am

I wouldn't do Bledsoe for Noel but I would do Knight for Okafor.

I might consider Bledsoe for Okafor.

I have zero interest in Noel.
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