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Dwight: Opt in or Opt out?

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What will Dwight do?

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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#61 » by MaxRider » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:48 pm

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texasholdem wrote:13 days until we find out. Dwight has to decide whether to opt in or out by June 29 according to Nate Duncan.

that's NBA deadline
i hear Morey gave him mid June deadline so he can plan what to do in the draft


Morey has no power over Dwight's decision. The draft is a week from today

Morey sure don't have that kind of power
but he can ask Howard to let him know his decision earlier
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#62 » by K_chile22 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:52 pm

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MaxRider wrote:that's NBA deadline
i hear Morey gave him mid June deadline so he can plan what to do in the draft

He can't do that, it's in each individual players contract when their opt in date is and there's no deviating from that


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he can ask Howard to let him know earlier
if Howard going to play **** there's no stopping him

Oh my bad, I thought you said July, but still, even if he said that there's nothing stopping Dwight from opting in on the 29th anyways


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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#63 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:23 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:He can't do that, it's in each individual players contract when their opt in date is and there's no deviating from that


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he can ask Howard to let him know earlier
if Howard going to play **** there's no stopping him

Oh my bad, I thought you said July, but still, even if he said that there's nothing stopping Dwight from opting in on the 29th anyways


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Dwight has officially opted out. Was just posted on Hoopshype. Yahoo's The Verticle reported it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--dwight-howard-declines-option--enters-free-agency-214823768.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#64 » by texasholdem » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:25 pm

i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#65 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:44 pm

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ChokeFasncists wrote:Despite having big trouble for a long time both on and off the court, being on a new team mid season and being injured in the first game there, Lawson averaged 8.7 assists per 36; not that bad.

To go along with a true shooting % of a cool 46%. That's worse than Rubio his rookie year. He was still hot garbage

That's true. I didn't say he was good, just that he was much better before his stint with the Rockets and a bit better afterwards.

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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#66 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:57 pm

texasholdem wrote:i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.


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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#67 » by Mr. E » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:05 pm

I honestly don't think that anyone was giving up anything of significant value for Dwight at the trade deadline. I'm sure that he could have gotten something, but at the end of the day he has to justify the move to Les, and I'm pretty sure that limited what Morey could accept.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#68 » by Mr. E » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:06 pm

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texasholdem wrote:i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.


Morey routinely overvalues his players trade value.


Maybe so, but he also manages to find a lot of value through trades.

I'm just happy that he doesn't make trades just for the sake of making a trade.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#69 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:24 pm

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texasholdem wrote:i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.


Morey routinely overvalues his players trade value.


Maybe so, but he also manages to find a lot of value through trades.

I'm just happy that he doesn't make trades just for the sake of making a trade.


Even if it guarantees you're going to lose a player for nothing?
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#70 » by MaxRider » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:00 am

texasholdem wrote:i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.

it wasn't a waste
we had good time
we made it to the conference final last year
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#71 » by K_chile22 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:48 am

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texasholdem wrote:i cant believe we could have traded him for something at the deadline and morey didn't at least get a pick. what a waste of three years.

it wasn't a waste
we had good time
we made it to the conference final last year

Yup. Only one team wins a championship, the first two years were fun


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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#72 » by K_chile22 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:48 am

Mr. E wrote:I honestly don't think that anyone was giving up anything of significant value for Dwight at the trade deadline. I'm sure that he could have gotten something, but at the end of the day he has to justify the move to Les, and I'm pretty sure that limited what Morey could accept.

Yeah Morey was trying to get a decent pick but no one was biting


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Post#73 » by texasholdem » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:16 am

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Mr. E wrote:I honestly don't think that anyone was giving up anything of significant value for Dwight at the trade deadline. I'm sure that he could have gotten something, but at the end of the day he has to justify the move to Les, and I'm pretty sure that limited what Morey could accept.

Yeah Morey was trying to get a decent pick but no one was biting


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People said he wanted a starting front court player and a first rounder for Dwight. That's a lot for a player who can just walk away and was not playing well at the time. Morey got greedy and got burned.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#74 » by K_chile22 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:22 am

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Mr. E wrote:I honestly don't think that anyone was giving up anything of significant value for Dwight at the trade deadline. I'm sure that he could have gotten something, but at the end of the day he has to justify the move to Les, and I'm pretty sure that limited what Morey could accept.

Yeah Morey was trying to get a decent pick but no one was biting


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People said he wanted a starting front court player and a first rounder for Dwight. That's a lot for a player who can just walk away and was not playing well at the time. Morey got greedy and got burned.

Dwight also was playing well up until the all-star break. Some revisionist history here with how he went downhill


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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#75 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:02 am

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K_chile22 wrote:Yeah Morey was trying to get a decent pick but no one was biting


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People said he wanted a starting front court player and a first rounder for Dwight. That's a lot for a player who can just walk away and was not playing well at the time. Morey got greedy and got burned.

Dwight also was playing well up until the all-star break. Some revisionist history here with how he went downhill


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That still doesn't change the fact that he was on an expiring contract and a high risk to leave. Regardless of how he plays, that severely hurts a players value.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#76 » by K_chile22 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:40 am

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People said he wanted a starting front court player and a first rounder for Dwight. That's a lot for a player who can just walk away and was not playing well at the time. Morey got greedy and got burned.

Dwight also was playing well up until the all-star break. Some revisionist history here with how he went downhill


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That still doesn't change the fact that he was on an expiring contract and a high risk to leave. Regardless of how he plays, that severely hurts a players value.

What I'm saying was he would rather hold out on the chance that they get it together then take a pupu platter deal


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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#77 » by Mr. E » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:05 am

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Morey routinely overvalues his players trade value.


Maybe so, but he also manages to find a lot of value through trades.

I'm just happy that he doesn't make trades just for the sake of making a trade.


Even if it guarantees you're going to lose a player for nothing?


They got him for nothing.

Dwight came here because of cap room and he's leaving more cap room with his departure. Yeah, it would have been nice to move him for something, but anyone who has watched this team under Les's ownership knows that it would have been a hard sell to send him out for nominal return if the team had even a slight chance of making the playoffs.

I'm not saying that it is ideal, but that is the unfortunate reality for Houston.
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Re: Dwight: Opt in or Opt out? 

Post#78 » by MaxRider » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:55 pm

texasholdem wrote:
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Mr. E wrote:I honestly don't think that anyone was giving up anything of significant value for Dwight at the trade deadline. I'm sure that he could have gotten something, but at the end of the day he has to justify the move to Les, and I'm pretty sure that limited what Morey could accept.

Yeah Morey was trying to get a decent pick but no one was biting


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People said he wanted a starting front court player and a first rounder for Dwight. That's a lot for a player who can just walk away and was not playing well at the time. Morey got greedy and got burned.


i forgot which team is willing to bite (Milwaukee?)
but they need Howard to opt in his last year contract which Howard refuse to do
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Post#79 » by inquisitive » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:47 pm

rox just got 45mil in cap space with d12 opting out.
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