2016 Draft Thread Part 4

[bwgood77]

The perfect option to trading back is the Kings at #8. We can draft one of Chriss, Bender, Hield or Murray for sure (because Boston is probably to draft Brown) and those four are our targets.

Probably a future protected pick is enough for McDonough or a good role player like Belinelli.

They could easily all be gone at 8. If Boston trades their pick and someone takes Dunn, I'm pretty sure Brown will be the one that slips to 8.

Yeah, but if Brown goes #3 we have one of those four players at #8 for sure. It seems a simple trade and Dunn would be a perfect fit for the Kings.

Sure if he has those all exactly equal. I'm guessing he doesn't and he will take who he wants. It's not like his job is THAT secure or he'd have an extension.

[rsavaj]

Gambo just said that the Suns have narrowed their choices down to Bender, Chriss, Murray, and Hield. Then he said if Dunn is still available at pick four, the Suns will consider trading their pick because there are teams that think Dunn is a franchise point guard and want to trade up for him. He also said he thinks the Suns will take Chriss if the Suns keep the pick.

As much as I'd dislike the pick, Chriss fits the McD mold. Pick the guy with the physical tools and hope he learns how to play basketball.

Meh.

How is that the McD mold? TJ and Booker definitely knew how to play basketball and I don't know that I'd describe them as having physical tools. Same with Ennis. And probably Bogdan. Don't know how to describe Len. I guess you could say that about Len.

The only guy you can definitely say that about is Archie.

Murray seems like the McD mold.

darn it I was totally wrong on that one

[JMac1]

They could easily all be gone at 8. If Boston trades their pick and someone takes Dunn, I'm pretty sure Brown will be the one that slips to 8.

Yeah, but if Brown goes #3 we have one of those four players at #8 for sure. It seems a simple trade and Dunn would be a perfect fit for the Kings.

Sure if he has those all exactly equal. I'm guessing he doesn't and he will take who he wants. It's not like his job is THAT secure or he'd have an extension.

If Bogdan comes over here, We are trading for Okafor.

[bwgood77]

So if we draft Dunn, it signals a trade with The Bulls or Sixers (Both teams rumored to be trading for Dunn). We know who the Sixers are offering, we know both Butler and Rose are on the table in Chicago, but what other teams are linked to Dunn and what do they have to offer?

Bender must have bombed yet another workout if he is 2nd in line to Chriss. Celtics talked s**t about his workout with them when they really didnt have to. What is going oh so wrong with Bender that teams who were in love with him are all of a sudden turning their backs on him. Honestly, its kinda weird.

So if we keep the picks i guess we are stocking up on PF's. Chriss/Sabonis is what its going to end up being, as Skal will be long gone and i see Ellenson also being drafted right before our pick at #13. Not a big fan if thats how it plays out.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Bender goes 3 or 4. I don't think they are showing their cards at all and I think you can take reports of what "Ainge thinks" and Gambo says with a grain of salt.

No way the Suns draft Dunn unless something else is set up...something really good. I think Sacramento would probably love him and McD might really love WCS. He might see if he can do a straight swap. I'm personally not a HUGE fan of his, but more than I used to be.

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah, but if Brown goes #3 we have one of those four players at #8 for sure. It seems a simple trade and Dunn would be a perfect fit for the Kings.

Sure if he has those all exactly equal. I'm guessing he doesn't and he will take who he wants. It's not like his job is THAT secure or he'd have an extension.

If Bogdan comes over here, We are trading for Okafor.

IF Boston gets Noel (rumored for #3), does Philly also ship him off? Not sure its realistic.

[Dr Manute]

If Bender is not worth picking at #4, I hope we trade the pick rather then draft Criss or another guard. I'm calling up Philly and offering Dunn (#4), PJ, and Archie for Okafor and Saric. Or push hard at Chicago for Butler.

[Kerrsed]

The Celtics are reportedly want Nerlens Noel in exchange for the No. 3 overall pick in the upcoming draft.
The 76ers are reportedly "pushing hard" to trade with the Celtics for the No. 3 overall pick so that they can draft Kris Dunn, and with Philly already expected to bring in Ben Simmons with the No. 1 overall selection, they may be more willing to part ways with Noel. Noel would be a great fit with the Celtics, and Dunn would finally provide the 76ers with a solid point guard, so it wouldn't be surprising to see something like this go down on draft night.

[bwgood77]

I'll be disappointed if the Suns don't come out of this draft with 3 bigs.

Prepare yourself for disappointment. They are only going to make 3 picks. I think that's all but guaranteed unless they just can't find a taker and can't consolidate, which I guess are real possibilities. If they take 4 people, I'd still bet on two bigs (one possibly being a draft and stash) a wing, and a guard. The wing could be draft and stash as well.

[Kerrsed]

I miss the days of having insiders PM me.

[saintEscaton]

As much as I'd dislike the pick, Chriss fits the McD mold. Pick the guy with the physical tools and hope he learns how to play basketball.

Meh.

How is that the McD mold? TJ and Booker definitely knew how to play basketball and I don't know that I'd describe them as having physical tools. Same with Ennis. And probably Bogdan. Don't know how to describe Len. I guess you could say that about Len.

The only guy you can definitely say that about is Archie.

Murray seems like the McD mold.

darn it I was totally wrong on that one

So McD's mold is crafty unathletic one way wings without protypical attributes? Guess Brown is ruled out

[Dr Manute]

If Bender is there and we pass because McD is under pressure to win now. I will be pissed. I think most fans are aware that Bender is not NBA ready right now. I personally am willing to wait 2 years for him to develop. I can live with watching the young Suns grow together. Please Sarver, rebuild with patience!!!!!!

[SunsFanSSOL]

If Bender is there and we pass because McD is under pressure to win now. I will be pissed. I think most fans are aware that Bender is not NBA ready right now. I personally am willing to wait 2 years for him to develop. I can live with watching the young Suns grow together. Please Sarver, rebuild with patience!!!!!!

Bender is more way NBA ready than Chriss, so I don't see how passing on Bender for Chriss is a win now move. The only reason McD would pass on Bender is because he was terrible in workouts.

[Saberestar]

We all are over thinking about the pick, if we keep it simple it's gonna be Chriss.

Every mock draft have us taking him in the last few days (DX, ESPN,.net), Gambo has said that is our favourite player at #4 for upside and fit and everyone knows that we are one of the few teams that had him for a workout and launch with him.

He follows now Earl Watson on Twitter and he has said to other teams that he thinks he is going to Phoenix on draft night.

The only team that picks before us is Boston (Philadelphia and LA don't really count) and they haven't Chriss like his first (Brown) or even second ( Dunn for trade purposes) options.

[Kerrsed]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-dragan-bender-the-next-big-thing/

[letsgosuns]

We all are over thinking about the pick, if we keep it simple it's gonna be Chriss.

Every mock draft have us taking him in the last few days (DX, ESPN,.net), Gambo has said that is our favourite player at #4 for upside and fit and everyone knows that we are one of the few teams that had him for a workout and launch with him.

He follows now Earl Watson on Twitter and he has said to other teams that he thinks he is going to Phoenix on draft night.

The only team that picks before us is Boston (Philadelphia and LA don't really count) and they haven't Chriss like his first (Brown) or even second ( Dunn for trade purposes) options.

I agree. I think the Celtics are the ones that are really pushing to trade their pick. They are a good, young team who are missing a go-to star player to help them get to the next level. The Suns are in a different position. Ainge is also the type of gm that will do whatever he can to acquire a star player. McDonough values his picks very highly. Probably as high as any gm in the league. He is the same guy that refused to even give up a first round pick for Pau Gasol a couple years ago when the Suns won 48 games.

[jcsunsfan]

If Bender is there and we pass because McD is under pressure to win now. I will be pissed. I think most fans are aware that Bender is not NBA ready right now. I personally am willing to wait 2 years for him to develop. I can live with watching the young Suns grow together. Please Sarver, rebuild with patience!!!!!!

Bender is more way NBA ready than Chriss, so I don't see how passing on Bender for Chriss is a win now move. The only reason McD would pass on Bender is because he was terrible in workouts.

I like Bender, but I do not think there is ANYONE who can know this is true. In fact, they are both not ready and fairly equal in this regard.

[theSUNalsoRISES]

Feeling optimistic about this draft. We simply sit back and draft the BPA. If you decipher all the rumours around this draft, both Celtics and lakers want players who can contribute next season, both teams are win now mode, we are in a solid position being right behind them. If the lakers and celtics cant trade out, will they overlook ingram for a more ready now player?.Lakers have been linked to buddy (even working out with Kobe) and Celtics and Bender always seem connected in rumours ( latest one on a really poor workout come out of boston-smokescreen?) Two weeks ago it seemed impossible but I think there is an actual chance the player with the best career arc in this draft comes to PHX. Ingram, booker n a top pick in next years supposedly heavy draft could finally lead us to relevance.

[bwgood77]

How is that the McD mold? TJ and Booker definitely knew how to play basketball and I don't know that I'd describe them as having physical tools. Same with Ennis. And probably Bogdan. Don't know how to describe Len. I guess you could say that about Len.

The only guy you can definitely say that about is Archie.

Murray seems like the McD mold.

darn it I was totally wrong on that one

So McD's mold is crafty unathletic one way wings without protypical attributes? Guess Brown is ruled out

My guess is he is ruled out. Likely doesn't like athletic wings who can't shoot, pass, steal, block, defend without fouling out, has extremely excessive turnovers along with an air of superiority.

[saintEscaton]

Feeling optimistic about this draft. We simply sit back and draft the BPA. If you decipher all the rumours around this draft, both Celtics and lakers want players who can contribute next season, both teams are win now mode, we are in a solid position being right behind them. If the lakers and celtics cant trade out, will they overlook ingram for a more ready now player?.Lakers have been linked to buddy (even working out with Kobe) and Celtics and Bender always seem connected in rumours ( latest one on a really poor workout come out of boston-smokescreen?) Two weeks ago it seemed impossible but I think there is an actual chance the player with the best career arc in this draft comes to PHX. Ingram, booker n a top pick in next years supposedly heavy draft could finally lead us to relevance.

Lakers are not gunna transform into overnight contenders, just because they have Walton and the cap space to sign two max players. The storied franchise e sales pitch is wearing out, the Hollywood lights aren't enough to attract marquee FAs . Kupcupchak would be stupid to pass on Ingram for Buddy,hewould get crucified by the fanbase/LA media . Even if they did the Celts would snatch him up. One can dream tho

[bwgood77]

We all are over thinking about the pick, if we keep it simple it's gonna be Chriss.

Every mock draft have us taking him in the last few days (DX, ESPN,.net), Gambo has said that is our favourite player at #4 for upside and fit and everyone knows that we are one of the few teams that had him for a workout and launch with him.

He follows now Earl Watson on Twitter and he has said to other teams that he thinks he is going to Phoenix on draft night.

The only team that picks before us is Boston (Philadelphia and LA don't really count) and they haven't Chriss like his first (Brown) or even second ( Dunn for trade purposes) options.

Last time we had a top 5 pick, not one mock had us taking Len. Most had him going later.