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Re: Random Rumor Thread: Post em here 

Post#201 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:43 pm

benchmobbin02 wrote:Think this belongs here:


dozencousins » Yesterday 10:38 am
Here is some draft & trade info update :

76ers : Are trying to get our 8th as the Bulls are in deals were we get our future rights back & we move down in the draft to gain our future right back .


I think some kind of deal where Sacramento gets all of their picks back via Philly for the 24/26 to 8 upgrade then send 24/26 to Chicago for their pick back makes a lot of sense for the Kings. Long term, this is a weak draft and 8th overall isn't nearly as valuable as having their future back, it helps if Cousins doesn't work with Joerger and they need to deal him for a rebuild and helps overall with their management approach.
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Re: Random Rumor Thread: Post em here 

Post#202 » by bondom34 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:41 am

Homerclease wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Exactly. So why should Boston this time trade their top 5 pick for Noel who can't hold Rays jockstrap. Because "it's a 2 person draft"???? Baloney.

By the way the answer was 1992, Shaq and Zo went 1-2 that year and were the two best. Hasn't happened since. I'm open to Boston dealing the third pick for the right price for a true star player, Noel, Saric and a laker pick that could be anywhere from 4-24 doesn't fit that label.

I never said Boston should trade the pick either, but having 3 in what is valued by everyone as a 2 player draft isn't some amazing thing.

And holy moly that's way too much for the 3rd pick. Yeah, that's ridiculous. I didn't even read that part but wow. You should keep the pick.

Top 5 picks don't get traded for pennies on the dollar, Ray was already a hall of famer when he was acquired, Kevin Love was at the pinnacle of his career when he was moved. I don't subscribe to this silly notion that if its not for Simmons and Ingram that the third pick is equal to a sofa on the side of the road.

The offer wasn't a sofa, it was Noel Saric and a pik with a shot at being number 1.
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Re: Random Rumor Thread: Post em here 

Post#203 » by Homerclease » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:49 am

bondom34 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I never said Boston should trade the pick either, but having 3 in what is valued by everyone as a 2 player draft isn't some amazing thing.

And holy moly that's way too much for the 3rd pick. Yeah, that's ridiculous. I didn't even read that part but wow. You should keep the pick.

Top 5 picks don't get traded for pennies on the dollar, Ray was already a hall of famer when he was acquired, Kevin Love was at the pinnacle of his career when he was moved. I don't subscribe to this silly notion that if its not for Simmons and Ingram that the third pick is equal to a sofa on the side of the road.

The offer wasn't a sofa, it was Noel Saric and a pik with a shot at being number 1.

I was under the impression that the pick was top 3 protected? If so then there is no chance that the pick becomes number 1. So for me you have 3/Bradley for Noel/Saric with the pick as a wildcard. It could be pick 4 or it could be pick 24. I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side due to the theory that LA may be just as bad next year, although i disagree with that opinion I understand it. If LA really wanted to tank again then why fire Scott? You have no better tank commander out there unless you think that low of Walton and his work in golden state.
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Post#204 » by HartfordWhalers » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:18 am

So we have:

Homerclease wrote:pennies on the dollar


Homerclease wrote:I don't subscribe to this silly notion that if its not for Simmons and Ingram that the third pick is equal to a sofa on the side of the road.


And:

Homerclease wrote:I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side


I find it pretty hard to reconcile the last one (or absolutely any other person's take on it) with the first two besides calling the first two over the top hyperbole.
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Post#205 » by Homerclease » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:22 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:So we have:

Homerclease wrote:pennies on the dollar


Homerclease wrote:I don't subscribe to this silly notion that if its not for Simmons and Ingram that the third pick is equal to a sofa on the side of the road.


And:

Homerclease wrote:I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side


I find it pretty hard to reconcile the last one (or absolutely any other person's take on it) with the first two besides calling the first two over the top hyperbole.

All taken out of context of the entire conversation. We've run in circles here so I'll summarize with this.

If the LA pick were to come in at 4 then it's a steal by Boston, if it were late lotto then it's a pretty even trade and if it's in the 15-25 range it's a win for philly.
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Post#206 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:29 am

Can we refocus this thread more on discussing new rumors and less on one person's agenda?
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Re: Random Rumor Thread: Post em here 

Post#207 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:33 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/brewhoop/status/745295533984587776[/tweet]
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#208 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:40 am

Trigger warning Raps fans:

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/745316893221761029[/tweet]
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#209 » by the_process » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:52 am

sportscrazy wrote:
benchmobbin02 wrote:Think this belongs here:


dozencousins » Yesterday 10:38 am
Here is some draft & trade info update :

76ers : Are trying to get our 8th as the Bulls are in deals were we get our future rights back & we move down in the draft to gain our future right back .


I think some kind of deal where Sacramento gets all of their picks back via Philly for the 24/26 to 8 upgrade then send 24/26 to Chicago for their pick back makes a lot of sense for the Kings. Long term, this is a weak draft and 8th overall isn't nearly as valuable as having their future back, it helps if Cousins doesn't work with Joerger and they need to deal him for a rebuild and helps overall with their management approach.


Right, and that's exactly why Philly wouldn't do it. Those future picks are more valuable.
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Post#210 » by the_process » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:53 am

Homerclease wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Top 5 picks don't get traded for pennies on the dollar, Ray was already a hall of famer when he was acquired, Kevin Love was at the pinnacle of his career when he was moved. I don't subscribe to this silly notion that if its not for Simmons and Ingram that the third pick is equal to a sofa on the side of the road.

The offer wasn't a sofa, it was Noel Saric and a pik with a shot at being number 1.

I was under the impression that the pick was top 3 protected? If so then there is no chance that the pick becomes number 1. So for me you have 3/Bradley for Noel/Saric with the pick as a wildcard. It could be pick 4 or it could be pick 24. I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side due to the theory that LA may be just as bad next year, although i disagree with that opinion I understand it. If LA really wanted to tank again then why fire Scott? You have no better tank commander out there unless you think that low of Walton and his work in golden state.


Please just keep the 3rd pick. Thank you.
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Post#211 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:03 am

Not really a rumor, but here are the guys invited to the Green room:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/745416219520544768[/tweet]
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#212 » by Homerclease » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:08 am

oyoyer wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
bondom34 wrote:The offer wasn't a sofa, it was Noel Saric and a pik with a shot at being number 1.

I was under the impression that the pick was top 3 protected? If so then there is no chance that the pick becomes number 1. So for me you have 3/Bradley for Noel/Saric with the pick as a wildcard. It could be pick 4 or it could be pick 24. I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side due to the theory that LA may be just as bad next year, although i disagree with that opinion I understand it. If LA really wanted to tank again then why fire Scott? You have no better tank commander out there unless you think that low of Walton and his work in golden state.


Please just keep the 3rd pick. Thank you.

That's fine, keep your 5 big men.
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Post#213 » by Homerclease » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:10 am

BullyKing wrote:Can we refocus this thread more on discussing new rumors and less on one person's agenda?

Having a different opinion than you is not an agenda, and none of that debate was against the ToS
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Post#214 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:11 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/745268654305067008[/tweet]
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#215 » by cucad8 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:12 am

Homerclease wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Can we refocus this thread more on discussing new rumors and less on one person's agenda?

Having a different opinion than you is not an agenda, and none of that debate was against the ToS


Maybe not against any ToS, but derailing a thread intended to be for random rumors, into an unnecessary and annoying to read back and forth. Take it elsewhere, please? I'm sure there's been at least 35 Boston-Philly trade threads on here. One of them should suffice
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Post#216 » by Homerclease » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:15 am

cucad8 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Can we refocus this thread more on discussing new rumors and less on one person's agenda?

Having a different opinion than you is not an agenda, and none of that debate was against the ToS


Maybe not against any ToS, but derailing a thread intended to be for random rumors, into an unnecessary and annoying to read back and forth. Take it elsewhere, please? I'm sure there's been at least 35 Boston-Philly trade threads on here. One of them should suffice

The two moderators I was debating with didn't seem to have any problem with it.
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Post#217 » by the_process » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:18 am

Homerclease wrote:
oyoyer wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I was under the impression that the pick was top 3 protected? If so then there is no chance that the pick becomes number 1. So for me you have 3/Bradley for Noel/Saric with the pick as a wildcard. It could be pick 4 or it could be pick 24. I already stated I wouldn't do this from the Philly side due to the theory that LA may be just as bad next year, although i disagree with that opinion I understand it. If LA really wanted to tank again then why fire Scott? You have no better tank commander out there unless you think that low of Walton and his work in golden state.


Please just keep the 3rd pick. Thank you.

That's fine, keep your 5 big men.


Sounds like a plan. Especially since Simmons and Saric (in situations) can play the 3. But I don't think they're changing roster limits to 20. :wink:
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Post#218 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:19 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CSNNE/status/743956475949703168[/tweet]
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#219 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:22 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/745440917146996736[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/745441409314893824[/tweet]
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Re: Random Rumor Thread: Post em here 

Post#220 » by the_process » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:23 am

jbk1234 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/CSNNE/status/743956475949703168[/tweet]


:lol: This is too good. Anyone want to fill me in on what the "reason" is?

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