Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

[iamworthy]

Personally, I think there's a deal in place for Russell and Simmons if Simmons somehow falls to us for Cousins and 8... Maybe with a S/T Clarkson to make money work... If the sixers take Simmons, we pick Ingram and be fine with that.
Trading Russell for a draft pick is obviously silly... But I'm willing to bet we've had discussions with a lot of people and I'm sure Russell was floated here and there, but not as a single trade. There has to be more going on than that.

I was thinking the 2nd pick plus Randle for Cousins:

PG: Rondo
Center: WCS
PF: Randle
SF: Ingram
Gaurd: ?

Thats what I envisioned. I dont think Cousins will fetch what they think he will. In the end he will be a free agent and leave them high and dry.

I would do that move in a heartbeat but I have a strong feeling the starting price would be Russell and the number 2. I've grown to like Russell a lot and see him as a special player. As much as I like Cousins, I don't want to give him up in a trade.

Ill go one step further...Im NOT giving up Russell in that trade . Im all in on guys that can spread the floor and play muliple positions. Ive fully embraced Warriors style of ball. I think the lakers have as well. Hence the hiring of Luke. Thats why I wanted Ingram over Ben, Ingram can spread the floor.

[AcecardZ]

This whole "spread the floor" thing is cute but wait until the next dominant big man hits the league. Teams will be scrambling to add size.


If Kareem or Shaq or Olajuwon or Ewing played today they'd be unstoppable the way teams are currently constructed.

Andrew Bogut is going to slow Patrick Ewing down?

[The Skyhook]

I was thinking the 2nd pick plus Randle for Cousins:

PG: Rondo
Center: WCS
PF: Randle
SF: Ingram
Gaurd: ?

Thats what I envisioned. I dont think Cousins will fetch what they think he will. In the end he will be a free agent and leave them high and dry.

I would do that move in a heartbeat but I have a strong feeling the starting price would be Russell and the number 2. I've grown to like Russell a lot and see him as a special player. As much as I like Cousins, I don't want to give him up in a trade.

Ill go one step further...Im NOT giving up Russell in that trade . Im all in on guys that can spread the floor and play muliple positions. Ive fully embraced Warriors style of ball. I think the lakers have as well. Hence the hiring of Luke. Thats why I wanted Ingram over Ben, Ingram can spread the floor.

Those two are going to make for one heck of a 1- 2 punch. After watching a majority of Ingram's games this season, I would have been upset if we lost that draft pick. You're going to love the kid.

[dockingsched]

If those centers were in the league teams would force them to guard in space and on defense they'd just sit a second defender in their lap and force them to beat them like that. Those centers played in an era where you couldn't double until you had the ball, now offenses are forced to spread the floor in order to make defenses pay. If you can't spread the floor, you can't even get your center the ball.

[The Skyhook]

There are a few bigs in this league that are perfect for today's game. The Kings have royally screwed up building around Cousins, and the Pelicans haven't done a great job either. So far Minnesota is doing a good job build around KAT, and if they can add Murray and his shooting, they're going to be a real problem once those guys develop.

[gotokyo]

There are a few bigs in this league that are perfect for today's game. The Kings have royally screwed up building around Cousins, and the Pelicans haven't done a great job either. So far Minnesota is doing a good job build around KAT, and if they can add Murray and his shooting, they're going to be a real problem once those guys develop.

What exactly has Min done to build around KAT?

As far as I'm aware all they did was draft KAT into the same team they had the year prior. Not that it's a bad fit or anything, but I wouldn't call it building around him if it's the same team lol.

[AcecardZ]

If those centers were in the league teams would force them to guard in space and on defense they'd just sit a second defender in their lap and force them to beat them like that. Those centers played in an era where you couldn't double until you had the ball, now offenses are forced to spread the floor in order to make defenses pay. If you can't spread the floor, you can't even get your center the ball.

This ^ might be a bit of an oversimplification but there is a lot of truth to what you're saying. There's few dominant bigs and shooters are better than ever.

They made the rule you're referring to because Shaq couldn't be slowed. Now Shaq is gone it might be time for the league to go back to the way things were. Outlaw the zone preventing teams from effectively double teaming a player without the ball.

[iamworthy]

Anyone know Brandon Ingrams official NBA measurements?

[Showtime:Part2]

Dude no....
Rashard never shot from distance this clean
Rashard was in the physical defensive hands on era that does not live in todays nba
Rashard was not known for his character or work ethic
Rashard never had Ingram's handles or played his D

Rashard was pick 32 for a good reason

Ingram is longer, shoots better, has better character, plays better D, passes better... there is literally no comparison... explain that awful totally heinous comparison beyond 6'10" small forward.

it's hard to find hs stats on lewis, but i did find this link: http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1998_draft/Players/lewis.htm

he shot 71% fg in hs. 71! I doubt he did that without a good 3 ball. also lewis was a pretty good 3pt shooter in the nba.

i don't know what the change in era has to do with comparing them as players.

character/work ethic-i can't speak to this. i don't know what was ever said about lewis.

handles/D: if we are comparing hs stats-lewis averaged 5bpg to ingrams 3. we unfortunately cant compare college bc lewis never went. handles, ya ingram is probably better but by a whole lot? not sure about that.

they are lanky guys that can shoot and create their own offence with averageish athleticism. i think the comparison isnt that far off. that being said, ingram can always develop into a better player with a better work ethic. nobody is denying that. this is just my base case.

But you don't think Ingram has a decent shot at being an all-star?

well considering lewis was a borderline all star and in this era in his prime would have made it, i do think ingram has a shot. but even if you let lewis go ham from downtown to fit this era, he'd be an all star not superstar. my only point is that i dont see the kd/superstar comparisons at all. all star i can see

[zuju]

I like Ingram joining the lakers very much though I love Simmons in a Lakers uniform more due to his elite athleticism and play making ability.
Anyone got the same feeling as I do that Ingram got heavy legs when he ran up and down the court, very similar to that of Noah ??
I am afraid that would make him very injury prone in his 30s
I think Ingram will not be as good as Durant unless he developed a reliable post up game and grow two to three inches taller like Durant did.

Well, I haven't watched many of Ingrams nor Simmons game. So, its just my feeling in watching those "highlights"

[karkinos]

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it's red flag for me if the paint isn't filled with at least orange

[MrWaffles]

Anyone know Brandon Ingrams official NBA measurements?

6'9" 7'4" wingspan.

[SoFlaKingReal]

http://www.thesportsblaze.com/nba-draft-sixers-simmons-lakers-ingram/11162

Nice write up....interesting that Ingram is the youngest collegiate player in the draft

[Spanish_Laker]

Then there won't be any drama today, it's crystal-clear we are picking Ingram...

[The Skyhook]

There are a few bigs in this league that are perfect for today's game. The Kings have royally screwed up building around Cousins, and the Pelicans haven't done a great job either. So far Minnesota is doing a good job build around KAT, and if they can add Murray and his shooting, they're going to be a real problem once those guys develop.

What exactly has Min done to build around KAT?

As far as I'm aware all they did was draft KAT into the same team they had the year prior. Not that it's a bad fit or anything, but I wouldn't call it building around him if it's the same team lol.

Maybe building around Towns wasn't the right way to put it, but they have made better decisions. They took full advantage of the Kevin Love trade and Zach LaVine was a nice pickup for them.

[SashaTheMachine]

is someone gonna create a draft thread or should we continue here?

[moonpie]

is someone gonna create a draft thread or should we continue here?

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