Kevin Durant Free Agency Thread

[bondom34]

On what basis? Barnes showed that he could muster up 5/32 shooting on open shots when we needed him and that he is clearly not worth max money. Do you honestly think the Warriors would pay him more than Klay, Green and Steph after his recent performances?

Not to mention his regular season performances weren't that impressive either.

Not saying he's worth it. But if the option is him or not being able to find anyone with the cap space, you kind of have to.

I'm pretty sure they can find someone to replace a mediocre SF. They can even move Iggy back to starting SF and just find another bench piece.

They could, but it could certainly end up biting them and being a downgrade.

[Soca]

Not saying he's worth it. But if the option is him or not being able to find anyone with the cap space, you kind of have to.

I'm pretty sure they can find someone to replace a mediocre SF. They can even move Iggy back to starting SF and just find another bench piece.

They could, but it could certainly end up biting them and being a downgrade.

What downgrade?

[bondom34]

I'm pretty sure they can find someone to replace a mediocre SF. They can even move Iggy back to starting SF and just find another bench piece.

They could, but it could certainly end up biting them and being a downgrade.

What downgrade?

Whoever you get would be a bench downgrade assuming you start Iggy. You start the new guy and I don't know who can do everything Barnes does (defensively at least). I know he isn't good, but people are underestimating some of his ability.

[SFrush]

They could, but it could certainly end up biting them and being a downgrade.

What downgrade?

Whoever you get would be a bench downgrade assuming you start Iggy. You start the new guy and I don't know who can do everything Barnes does (defensively at least). I know he isn't good, but people are underestimating some of his ability.

Do everything Barnes does? I'm definitely missing something here.

[bondom34]

What downgrade?

Whoever you get would be a bench downgrade assuming you start Iggy. You start the new guy and I don't know who can do everything Barnes does (defensively at least). I know he isn't good, but people are underestimating some of his ability.

Do everything Barnes does? I'm definitely missing something here.

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

[Ito]

I dont think gs with durant would work out.. that team basically doesnt even have a pg.. not enough balls to go around.. Durant would play like an upgrade to barnes

[AndriPerdhian93]

Its not happening, he will sign 1 year contract with okc

[QRich3]

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

Exactly, everyone is on the hot take boat after the finals, but Barnes was one of the key pieces that made the "death line up" work. You can move Iguodala to the starting 5, but good luck finding a guy that can defend 4's credibly and stretch the floor somewhat to allow for Draymond to play big minutes as a C. And yeah, we all know Barnes missed some shots in the finals and that, but W's aren't getting a guy capable of playing both ways at his level, with the capspace they're gonna have. Unless they gut all of their depth for Marvin Williams, which would be a pretty bad move imo.

This is starting to be another case of fixating on a role player's flaws without being able to see his virtues. Barnes and Ezeli are supposed to be like your 7th-9th best players, you can't expect superstar consistency from them.

[Warriorfan]

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

Exactly, everyone is on the hot take boat after the finals, but Barnes was one of the key pieces that made the "death line up" work. You can move Iguodala to the starting 5, but good luck finding a guy that can defend 4's credibly and stretch the floor somewhat to allow for Draymond to play big minutes as a C. And yeah, we all know Barnes missed some shots in the finals and that, but W's aren't getting a guy capable of playing both ways at his level, with the capspace they're gonna have. Unless they gut all of their depth for Marvin Williams, which would be a pretty bad move imo.

This is starting to be another case of fixating on a role player's flaws without being able to see his virtues. Barnes and Ezeli are supposed to be like your 7th-9th best players, you can't expect superstar consistency from them.

But you also shouldn't pay your 6-9 th most important player more than 3 all nba players long term especially when you will have the room to add a super star to a favored contender.

On the warrior defense, when David Lee a bad defender was the starter along with Iggy GS was 4th in defensive efficientcy.

[QRich3]

But you also shouldn't pay your 6-9 th most important player more than 3 all nba players long term especially when you will have the room to add a super star to a favored contender.

On the warrior defense, when David Lee a bad defender was the starter along with Iggy GS was 4th in defensive efficientcy.

It's either that, or paying a lot less for a much worse player, and have more cost-efficient players but a worse roster. Stan Van Gundy put it very well on Zach Lowe's podcast a few months back saying yeah, we knew Rashard Lewis was being overpaid and his salary would hurt at the end of that contract, but without him we don't get to the finals and the goal is to win, not to make the most intelligent transactions on a vacuum, resulting on a mediocre team.

Yeah they had a good defense with Lee, but they also played traditional C's with him, and had a league average offense in part because of it. Playing Green at C makes them special because they can maintain a good defense while going small, and going small like that allows them to have an incredible offense. If you don't have a 4 that can allow for that to happen both ways, as much of an average player as he is, that line up is gone and their biggest advantage with it.

The superstar thing is a mirage by the way. If you can add Durant you obviously go for it, I just don't think it's very realistic and you should plan your future around it.

[NBARocks]

OKC knew they have GSW's number. they just went full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) after going up 3-1

[Warriorfan]

But you also shouldn't pay your 6-9 th most important player more than 3 all nba players long term especially when you will have the room to add a super star to a favored contender.

On the warrior defense, when David Lee a bad defender was the starter along with Iggy GS was 4th in defensive efficientcy.

It's either that, or paying a lot less for a much worse player, and have more cost-efficient players but a worse roster. Stan Van Gundy put it very well on Zach Lowe's podcast a few months back saying yeah, we knew Rashard Lewis was being overpaid and his salary would hurt at the end of that contract, but without him we don't get to the finals and the goal is to win, not to make the most intelligent transactions on a vacuum, resulting on a mediocre team.

Yeah they had a good defense with Lee, but they also played traditional C's with him, and had a league average offense in part because of it. Playing Green at C makes them special because they can maintain a good defense while going small, and going small like that allows them to have an incredible offense. If you don't have a 4 that can allow for that to happen both ways, as much of an average player as he is, that line up is gone and their biggest advantage with it.

The superstar thing is a mirage by the way. If you can add Durant you obviously go for it, I just don't think it's very realistic and you should plan your future around it.

Jackson's Iso ball is one of the reasons GS ranked 10 then. Since Kerr Curry has become MVP and improved on that, Klay has become all star and Green as well.

On the dream of Durant who I believe will go 1 and 1 I'd pass on paying him 40 million.
GS will have 58 million in cap next year if they pass on Barnes and Ezelli IMO 7th and 9th men.
Vet min guy B Rush avg 10 pts hit 40 % from 3 when filling for Barnes 20 games.
If 32-33year Olds Bogut, Iggy, Livingston reupp around MLE money GS can get 4 solid 10 mil players or 2 star level 20 mil players IMO discounted to play for contender.

GS already has 3 stars in place long term assuming Curry resigns. They just need great depth maybe add two quality players.

[Guest202]

Y'all think GS pitches Durant on 74 - 8 and a chip?

[Warriorfan]

Y'all think GS pitches Durant on 74 - 8 and a chip?

Plus our core is entering it's prime. We are adding one or two all stars to Curry, Thompson and Green we'd like one of them to be you.

[Solid]

ehhh....I don't like it. If you can't beat um..join um?
Screw that.

[bondom34]

But you also shouldn't pay your 6-9 th most important player more than 3 all nba players long term especially when you will have the room to add a super star to a favored contender.

On the warrior defense, when David Lee a bad defender was the starter along with Iggy GS was 4th in defensive efficientcy.

It's either that, or paying a lot less for a much worse player, and have more cost-efficient players but a worse roster. Stan Van Gundy put it very well on Zach Lowe's podcast a few months back saying yeah, we knew Rashard Lewis was being overpaid and his salary would hurt at the end of that contract, but without him we don't get to the finals and the goal is to win, not to make the most intelligent transactions on a vacuum, resulting on a mediocre team.

Yeah they had a good defense with Lee, but they also played traditional C's with him, and had a league average offense in part because of it. Playing Green at C makes them special because they can maintain a good defense while going small, and going small like that allows them to have an incredible offense. If you don't have a 4 that can allow for that to happen both ways, as much of an average player as he is, that line up is gone and their biggest advantage with it.

The superstar thing is a mirage by the way. If you can add Durant you obviously go for it, I just don't think it's very realistic and you should plan your future around it.

Exactly, I just don't see them saying "yeah we'll gladly be worse" just because Barnes is overpaid.

[Swift21]

Whoever you get would be a bench downgrade assuming you start Iggy. You start the new guy and I don't know who can do everything Barnes does (defensively at least). I know he isn't good, but people are underestimating some of his ability.

Do everything Barnes does? I'm definitely missing something here.

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

Odd considering Barnes doesn't guard either position well.

[bondom34]

Do everything Barnes does? I'm definitely missing something here.

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

Odd considering Barnes doesn't guard either position well.

He does. At least better than the guys people say they can "replace" him with.


That all said, there's a zero chance Durant goes there, but as for Barnes I don't really care what they do, downgrade or overpay, either is fine by me.

[Swift21]

There aren't a ton of guys who guard the 3 and 4 as well as he does. Its a small thing, but important for some of Kerr's lineups.

Odd considering Barnes doesn't guard either position well.

He does. At least better than the guys people say they can "replace" him with.


That all said, there's a zero chance Durant goes there, but as for Barnes I don't really care what they do, downgrade or overpay, either is fine by me.

No he doesn't. Iggy, Klay, Draymond and Bogut do way more for GSW defensively.

[bondom34]

Odd considering Barnes doesn't guard either position well.

He does. At least better than the guys people say they can "replace" him with.


That all said, there's a zero chance Durant goes there, but as for Barnes I don't really care what they do, downgrade or overpay, either is fine by me.

No he doesn't. Iggy, Klay and Draymond and Bogut do way more for GSW defensively.

Yes they do, but he plays his role on defense as well.