Who is the Hawks backup PG?

atlantabbq99 · Post #1 » by **atlantabbq99** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:54 pm

Mack is gone and now Teague is gone. Patterson likes to play PG time to time, but i don't think that is a good idea for the whole season.

Who should the Hawks get as the backup PG next year?

Lin would be perfect, but he is way too expensive so no chance the Hawks get him.

I noticed that Budz likes PGs who can attack the basket (Teague, Schroeder, Parker, Monte Ellis). Looking at the free agent PGs, the only two guys who are good at attacking the basket, who could come in cheap would be Brandon Jennings and Ty Lawson. Can Budz resurrect either of their careers?

Raymond Felton is another guy that would play well for the Hawks, but i think he will still get a sizable contract that makes him too expensive for the Hawks.

Gary Neal is the other guy. He is not flashy, but he is a safe pick who already knows Budz and the system.

PandaKidd · Post #2 » by **PandaKidd** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:10 pm

I would lean toward Neal/Draft pick/etc

Post #3 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:28 pm

I want a vet with a steady hand and playoff experience. Dennis will have some serious growing pains.

A Devin Harris, Jameer Nelson type player could serve as a nice counterpoint to the German sparkplug. But My #1 choice is Shaun Livingston. Though, that is likely a pipe dream.

One wild-card suggestion: point forward, backup swingman, jack of all trades Evan Turner. He's not a shooter or scorer, but he is a solid facilitator who could cause matchup problems coming off the bench.

jayu70 · Post #4 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:41 pm

It's still TBD.

Neal does not attack the basket. He'll be 32 years He's not a very good PG running an offense.

Post #5 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:02 pm

We just lost depth at the 1 so it will need to be addressed this off-season. I prefer a guy that's a 1/2 guard that can hit 3's at a high rate.

PandaKidd · Post #6 » by **PandaKidd** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:03 pm

Maybe DERRON WILLIAMS.

/logsoff

LeMasta · Post #7 » by **LeMasta** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:15 pm

How about Mario Chalmers?

Post #8 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:28 pm

PandaKidd wrote:Maybe DERRON WILLIAMS.

LeMasta wrote:How about Mario Chalmers?

Both are solid...if imperfect options.

Skyhawk1 · Post #9 » by **Skyhawk1** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:43 pm

We will have to sign a veteran PG. Dennis is too young and raw so the Hawks are probably looking at a steady, low turn over type of PG to back him up.

Post #10 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:52 pm

Patrick Beverly could be a great addition. Word is HOU is shopping him in a package.

Read on Twitter

Beverley, 27, has three more years and approximately $18MM remaining on his current deal. The point guard made 71 appearances this season, averaging 9.9 points, 3.5 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 28.7 minutes per outing to accompany a shooting line of .434/.400/.682. Here

$6 million per season, superb defender, adequate 3-pt shooter. I love it.

jayu70 · Post #11 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:06 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Patrick Beverly could be a great addition. Word is HOU is shopping him in a package.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/746033532020064256[/tweet]

Beverley, 27, has three more years and approximately $18MM remaining on his current deal. The point guard made 71 appearances this season, averaging 9.9 points, 3.5 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 28.7 minutes per outing to accompany a shooting line of .434/.400/.682. Here

$6 million per season, superb defender, adequate 3-pt shooter. I love it.

For #21?

Post #12 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:11 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Patrick Beverly could be a great addition. Word is HOU is shopping him in a package.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/746033532020064256[/tweet]

Beverley, 27, has three more years and approximately $18MM remaining on his current deal. The point guard made 71 appearances this season, averaging 9.9 points, 3.5 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 28.7 minutes per outing to accompany a shooting line of .434/.400/.682. Here

$6 million per season, superb defender, adequate 3-pt shooter. I love it.

For #21?

Perhaps.

Not sure what HOU is looking for. (Cap space? Youth? Future draft picks?)

But #21 for Beverly seems a fair place to start negotiations.

MaceCase · Post #13 » by **MaceCase** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:17 pm

People do remember the Hawks traded for Kirk Hinrich, correct? Vet PG, big guard that could even potentially play in lineups with Dennis, right?

td00 · Post #14 » by **td00** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:13 pm

I did forget about Kirk, but he's a perfect 3rd PG.

Ish Smith comes to mind, or Aaron Brooks probably fit the drive/dish style the best.

I listed Vasquez, Smith and Jarrett Jack on a FA thread.

Anyone see anything worthy in Jordan Clarkson from the Lakers?

And don't laugh, but Rondo is a solid vet if he could buy into Bud's coaching and take over should DS not be able to step up. Rondo and Beverly are just going to be as expensive as Teague.

Post #15 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:43 pm

td00 wrote:I did forget about Kirk, but he's a perfect 3rd PG.

Ish Smith comes to mind, or Aaron Brooks probably fit the drive/dish style the best.

I listed Vasquez, Smith and Jarrett Jack on a FA thread.

Anyone see anything worthy in Jordan Clarkson from the Lakers?

And don't laugh, but Rondo is a solid vet if he could buy into Bud's coaching and take over should DS not be able to step up. Rondo and Beverly are just going to be as expensive as Teague.

Jarrett Jack would indeed be a solid backup PG. No star, but a solid defender and has played in the league long enough to know the tricks of the game.

Is he a Bud type player? (Cerebral, unselfish, good shooter?)

MaceCase · Post #16 » by **MaceCase** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:17 pm

My thinking is that you don't want a PG good enough that could potentially usurp Dennis when he likely goes through his erratic streaks so an older guy that can't realistically play over 20 minutes on average is ideal. The Hawks made their bed with him and, sink or swim, need to take their lumps in the attempt to see if he fully realizes his potential. Having guys like Jack will be too tempting for Bud to play over Dennis during his cold streaks in order to secure wins.

Of course, in the back of my head I kind of envision a resigned Al and Mike Conley being brought in as a dark horse making Dennis the backup again. Imagine that.

jayu70 · Post #17 » by **jayu70** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:44 am

MaceCase wrote:
Of course, in the back of my head I kind of envision a resigned Al and Mike Conley being brought in as a dark horse making Dennis the backup again. Imagine that.

Ooooohhhh, sneaky sneaky 8-)

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New_Hawks_Era · Post #18 » by **New_Hawks_Era** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:37 am

Always wanted Jack here since his playing days on the Flats. Bring him back to ATL

Post #19 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:07 pm

PeachTree Hoops addresses this exact issue:

Dennis Schröder needs a backup as he takes the reins from Jeff Teague, and in this space, we will take a look at the point guard market. Let's just say that it is quite grim.

Here

jayu70 · Post #20 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:21 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:PeachTree Hoops addresses this exact issue:

Dennis Schröder needs a backup as he takes the reins from Jeff Teague, and in this space, we will take a look at the point guard market. Let's just say that it is quite grim.
Here

Is it really anymore grim than when Dennis (Rookie) and Mack (3rd year 23 years) were Teague's backup in year 1 of Coach Bud?