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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#41 » by skywalker33 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:58 pm

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I've heard Bender is a decent shooter....but he's not guard. We need shooting at the G/F spot more so than the F/C spot. Insert all the "Harris is a a great shooter/defender" talk here but I stand by my notion his ceiling is not a top 10-15 SG in this league and his ceiling is lower than Hield and Murray's.


Why does our next shooter have to be a guard ?? Imagine Gallo and Bender at the 3pt line and the elbow, that would open up the middle for Mudiay, Jokic and Harris. It could put us at a disadvantage for rebounding but that could work because the opposing teams bigs will be on the perimeter too.



Love you all on here but I think you're a bit blinded by "potential". Mudiay has some slash in him but Harris and Jokic def don't. I don't think we're all that weak at the 4 if they decided to play Juk and Nurk together. Also the FA market is much better at the 4 spot than the 2....plus we have this guy named Kenneth Faried on the roster. Last I checked he's a much better PF than Harris is a SG. SG is by far the weakest position on our team.


Hey, I'm not stuck on Bender as much as I am on BPA. My personal order is 1.Murray 2. Bender 3. Hield 4. Best player left

As for Faried vs Harris, I'll agree...for now. I love what Faried does but he is so limiting as a PF, Harris has more overall quality but needs to continuing to develop, not sure you'll be able to make that same comparison by the end of the year. There's a lot more PF's I'd take over Faried than there are SG's I'd take over Harris. And I disagree about Harris slash ability, he's one of the best off-the-ball guys we have and that leads to drives to the basket.

I waffle on the SG being our worst position on the team, but that is where I'd like to build up via the draft. Barton had to play SF a lot due to injuries and I see him more in the SG role this year than last, especially with a healthy Chandler (who can also play a little SG).
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#42 » by skywalker33 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:09 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:How important is it that Connelly make a "big" trade today? He didn't do anything big last year, or since. He's said he'd rather not have three more rookies. Does he need to make a big trade today? Does he need to make a big trade before training camp?

Jokic-Nurkic-Lauvergne
Faried-maybe Arthur
Gallinari-Chandler
Harris-Barton
Mudiay-Nelson

We are two deep at every position assuming Arthur is signed. Add three rookies (a lot, I get it). That leaves one roster spot open.

But do I, more importantly, does Connelly over-value our players? Should the Nuggets trade Faried and/or Gallinari and/or Chandler and/or Barton just to leave more playing time? Should we be trading current picks/assets for future firsts?


It's funny, the last two years I've heard Connelly say how "aggressive we'll be" in the draft and free agency, but all we get are rumors :-? . That being said, I'm not complaining about where we are at, he's done a good job drafting and a few trade of his trades have worked out well, now if he could just lure a quality FA or two.

I agree we need to start looking to trade Gallo/Faried/Chandler/Nelson. Gallo is sure to opt out next year so we should look at sending him out by the trade deadline or he'll surely want a bigger contract due to another cap increase. Faried (c'mon MIN) is a great guy but should be a 6th man on a playoff team at best, IMO, that's what his skillset leans towards. I don't understand why he's never been able to expand his game, whether shooting or defense. Nelson is just getting too old for this team, his body is starting to break down and at the PG position we could use some reliable depth.
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#43 » by Powder Blue » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:12 pm

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Why does our next shooter have to be a guard ?? Imagine Gallo and Bender at the 3pt line and the elbow, that would open up the middle for Mudiay, Jokic and Harris. It could put us at a disadvantage for rebounding but that could work because the opposing teams bigs will be on the perimeter too.



Love you all on here but I think you're a bit blinded by "potential". Mudiay has some slash in him but Harris and Jokic def don't. I don't think we're all that weak at the 4 if they decided to play Juk and Nurk together. Also the FA market is much better at the 4 spot than the 2....plus we have this guy named Kenneth Faried on the roster. Last I checked he's a much better PF than Harris is a SG. SG is by far the weakest position on our team.


Hey, I'm not stuck on Bender as much as I am on BPA. My personal order is 1.Murray 2. Bender 3. Hield 4. Best player left

As for Faried vs Harris, I'll agree...for now. I love what Faried does but he is so limiting as a PF, Harris has more overall quality but needs to continuing to develop, not sure you'll be able to make that same comparison by the end of the year. There's a lot more PF's I'd take over Faried than there are SG's I'd take over Harris. And I disagree about Harris slash ability, he's one of the best off-the-ball guys we have and that leads to drives to the basket.

I waffle on the SG being our worst position on the team, but that is where I'd like to build up via the draft. Barton had to play SF a lot due to injuries and I see him more in the SG role this year than last, especially with a healthy Chandler (who can also play a little SG).


I've been pretty locked into upgrading the shooting and the SG position. I'd admit I'm a bit jaded because shooting has been such a weak spot for the Nuggets for so long and we play against a lot of great shooting teams in the west. Now that we don't run and gun as much shooting has to improve if we want to get anywhere.

I don't know much about Bender, hearing good things but he's as much a toss-up as anyone we'd get at 7. If TC thinks he's the BPA when we're picking I'm not qualified to question that decision. However I standby the desire to upgrade the SG position.
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#44 » by NuggetsWY » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:23 pm

Faried is easy to like, but he's the same player today that he was when he came into the league. I love him coming off the bench, if he's willing. Harris has basically had just one year and he improved throughout the year. If he can keep improving, I think he can be a consistent scoring threat. I do not believe he'll ever be the the #1 or #2 option but whether he starts or not, I think he makes a great role player (if he keeps improving).

I understand some disagree and I won't argue much because I don't think the difference between SG & PF is very great. I will definitely agree that our biggest need is 3pt shooting especially from SG & PF
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#45 » by RRFB » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:36 pm

I'm not expecting a big trade at all. Every single year we hype ourselves up for some huge unforeseen move on draft day and/or the trade deadline and it almost never happens. There also seems to be far more sellers looking to dump picks than buyers. I'm not expecting much more than a swap of this years pick(s) for future picks.

I'm with Powder Blue on wanting a SG at #7 (I'm even hoping someone ahead of us takes Bender), but that's not a knock on Harris at all. SG might be our weakest position, but it's also the weakest position throughout the entire league by far. Harris already looks like a great complementary player and one of the better two-way prospects in the league. I'd argue that his floor is easily higher than either Murray or Hield right now.
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#46 » by skywalker33 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:14 am

Well, we'll get our shooter, Hield or Murray :smile:
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Re: Ideal Nuggets Draft 

Post#47 » by Nuggets_Talk » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:26 am

Nuggets_Talk wrote:At 7 id love Murray or bender. Happy with brown or buddy
At 15, furkan, luwawu or ellenson
At 19, maybe Juan hermagomez


Not bad. Got Murray at 7 which was awesome. Wanted Juan at 19 but I'm ok with him at 15.

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