Melky

Jitpal · Post #61 » by **Jitpal** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:57 am

ReggieFULLeffect wrote:I feel like he swings at every pitch. No player should swing at some of the pitches he swings at. He is such a liability right now.

In June this season so far, before today's game, Melky has a .341BA, .404OBP and a .916 OPS. So basically those are his stats since he became a regular and the team started playing well. -Jitpal

cmaff051 · Post #62 » by **cmaff051** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:19 am

Melky looked so overmatched against Oliver Perez today.

ReggieFULLeffect · Post #63 » by **ReggieFULLeffect** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:50 am

In June this season so far, before today's game, Melky has a .341BA, .404OBP and a .916 OPS. So basically those are his stats since he became a regular and the team started playing well. -Jitpal

I'm sorry sir, I meant tonight. I should've specified.

Jitpal · Post #64 » by **Jitpal** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:53 am

cmaff051 wrote:Melky looked so overmatched against Oliver Perez today.

He pitched a 4-hitter, a lot of guys looked overmatched. -Jitpal

34Celtic · Post #65 » by **34Celtic** » Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:33 pm

Melky is the top rated defensive outfielder in the AL

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... d.shtml#CF
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make that baseball...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ield.shtml

I don't know what their formula is but it backs up what some of us have been saying around here. Now if he could only play right field and second base....

suns32 · Post #66 » by **suns32** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 2:34 am

He is also hitting very well now.

34Celtic · Post #67 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 12:22 pm

suns32 wrote:He is also hitting very well now.

I've been saying it all along he's a .300 hitter when given the chance to play every day. He runs the bases pretty well, has an unbelievable arm, and plays above average to great defense.

Now if we could just get his buddies Robby and Bobby out of here.

Jitpal · Post #68 » by **Jitpal** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 2:54 pm

I don't know about .300, I see him as closer to .285-.290 but I think he is going to have a much higher OBP as his career goes along. He has quite a bit of patience for a young hitter, he knows how to work counts and I see him drawing a lot of walks later in his career. Plus, the guy is clutch. -Jitpal

cmaff051 · Post #69 » by **cmaff051** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 6:02 pm

Let'see Melky start to hit for some power before I change my mind. He needs to have atleast a .750 OPS in order for me to take him seriously.

34Celtic · Post #70 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Jul 3, 2007 6:15 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Let'see Melky start to hit for some power before I change my mind. He needs to have atleast a .750 OPS in order for me to take him seriously.

Since Melky came into our lineup full-time he has been our 4th best player. That says a lot about him and a lot about bums like Bobby and Robby

Post #71 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jul 4, 2007 2:29 am

Is .264/.326/.372/.698 supposed to be good?

Post #72 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Wed Jul 4, 2007 5:09 am

moocow007 wrote:Is .264/.326/.372/.698 supposed to be good?

The average will rise, and an OBP 60 points higher than his average is something to take notice of especially when he doesn't have the best approach right now because he has struggled. I see years of .285/.365/.385 for Melky. And if you combine that with his great defense (COULD* be gold glove caliber down the road) and extremely strong arm, as well as his excitement, I don't see how he isn't an everyday player in a good lineup. I don't care if he hits 10 home runs.

cmaff051 · Post #73 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Jul 4, 2007 5:22 am

moocow007 wrote:Is .264/.326/.372/.698 supposed to be good?

No, that's awful. A .698 OPS is dreadful. He's going to need to go on a hot streak and raise his OPS by slugging more before I consider him a part of our future.

34Celtic · Post #74 » by **34Celtic** » Wed Jul 4, 2007 5:27 pm

He is gold glove caliber right now. And his OPs in June/July (since taking over full time is about .820. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

cmaff051 · Post #75 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Jul 4, 2007 11:55 pm

Who cares? Andy Philips had a month last year where his OPS was .970, doesn't mean he isn't complete trash.

Melky is going to have to have a hot streak and raise his OPS to .750, like it was last year, to earn consideration for a starting spot next year. End of story. All you Melky lovers can savor his grittiness and spunkiness all he wants, but if he doesn't produce like an average centerfielder does, then he has no place on the Yankees.

Post #76 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:27 am

cmaff051 wrote:Who cares? Andy Philips had a month last year where his OPS was .970, doesn't mean he isn't complete trash.

Melky is going to have to have a hot streak and raise his OPS to .750, like it was last year, to earn consideration for a starting spot next year. End of story. All you Melky lovers can savor his grittiness and spunkiness all he wants, but if he doesn't produce like an average centerfielder does, then he has no place on the Yankees.

In Andy Phillips 3-4 years of ML stints, he never provided one hundredth of what Melky provided last season. Comparing the two is foolish. Phillips plays a position where you need to hit well to stick around for a decade, Melky plays a position where you need to field and get on base, and hit .275+ to stick in the majors.

cmaff051 · Post #77 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:30 am

The bottom line to some of you guys is that whatever Melky does will be fine with you. You are oblivious to his flaws. You are oblivous to the fact that he is one of the worst hitting regulars in the league.

I can guarentee you Melky will not have a starting spot in the outfield next year if he has a .698 OPS like he does now.

34Celtic · Post #78 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 1:46 am

Melky struggled when he was playing part time earlier in the year. He does things to help the team that do not show up in the stats. He is a helluva defender. Bottom line is the kid can play the game. I don't care about OPS. Cano and Abreu have OPS's 20-25 pts higher than Melky but so far this year Melky has been better for us than those two coma induced hazes trying to pass as baseball players.

34Celtic · Post #79 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 1:50 am

Carl Crawford
Troy Tulowitzki
Miguel Tejada
Shane Victorino
Jason Bay
Pudge Rodriguez
Vernon Wells
Michael Young

Just a few guys who don't have an OPS of 800 this season.

Post #80 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 5, 2007 1:53 am

cmaff051 wrote:The bottom line to some of you guys is that whatever Melky does will be fine with you. You are oblivious to his flaws. You are oblivous to the fact that he is one of the worst hitting regulars in the league.

I can guarentee you Melky will not have a starting spot in the outfield next year if he has a .698 OPS like he does now.

Nobody here is ignoring his flaws, we just expect his BA and SLG to rise. And when they do, they will be good enough to be a starting CF in the majors because of his defense, arm, and ability to get on base. He doesn't have to have a line of .300/.400/.500 to stay in this lineup, that is really what we (or at least I) are getting at. If he can consistently put up .280/.350/.400 then that is good enough IMO. Now he just has to put up those numbers.