2016 NBA Draft

nickhx2 · Post #341 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:42 am

i thought that this draft was almost can't miss in the sense that we would come away quite happy with wing players who could help us now and still grow a bit.

looks like i was wrong.

DLaren · Post #342 » by **DLaren** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:42 am

I like that in a time when everyone wants to hoist-up 3's we just drafted two big-men who have real post-games and a PG who likes to assault the paint (though, if we were going to draft a PG at that spot we should have taken Tyler Ulis).

Stay the course Doc.

Quake Griffin · Post #343 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:43 am

I personalky dont like Stone. He spurned us at Wisconsin for Maryland and we were all excited for him. Then I saw his demeanor and effort in college and began to not like him even more

CPs been here nearly 5 calendar years.
No quality athletic wing has been acquired.

nickhx2 · Post #344 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:46 am

DLaren wrote:I like that in a time when everyone wants to hoist-up 3's we just drafted two big-men who have real post-games and a PG who likes to assault the paint (though, if we were going to draft a PG at that spot we should have taken Tyler Ulis).

Stay the course Doc.

ya doc ignores ceiling and wing needs yet again and of course you are all over his jock.

no surprise

Forte IV · Post #345 » by **Forte IV** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:51 am

No way Korkmaz would have come over this year. Apparently he has a $1.5 million buyout and thats already more then the salary he'd make as pick #25

MartinToVaught · Post #346 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:57 am

I really wanted him to address the small forward situation, but I begrudgingly have to admit that Glenn made some nice picks in this draft. I want to see Johnson and Stone get actual playing time, though. Those guys both have tons of talent, we could have a stacked frontcourt if Glenn actually does his job and develops them.

Ranma · Post #347 » by **Ranma** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:06 am

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Ranma · Post #348 » by **Ranma** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:09 am

Forte IV wrote:No way Korkmaz would have come over this year. Apparently he has a $1.5 million buyout and thats already more then the salary he'd make as pick #25

Still might have been worth the wait and the pick at 25th overall. I'm not overly upset about bypassing him specifically, though...at least not yet.

Ranma · Post #349 » by **Ranma** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:17 am

DLaren wrote:I like that in a time when everyone wants to hoist-up 3's we just drafted two big-men who have real post-games and a PG who likes to assault the paint (though, if we were going to draft a PG at that spot we should have taken Tyler Ulis).

Stay the course Doc.

I +1ed your philosophy about making the most out of our latter two picks. While I was disappointed with what we did with the 25th overall selection--but not who we got (I actually like Brice Johnson)--I agree with your idea of taking advantage of market inefficiencies by taking from an available surplus when everyone has depleted the stock of the more desirable commodities. I don't know anything about the French PG we just drafted but I'll give Doc and our scouts a pass for that pick for now.

However, I most definitely don't agree with your sentiment to "stay the course". We're still lacking at the wing spot, which forced us to overpay for Jeff Green in trade recently while setting us up to overpay for him in salary later. What happened to his plans to trade up? Doc has come up short yet again, so continuing with business as usual is not at all what any Clippers fan should want.

Ranma · Post #350 » by **Ranma** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:25 am

nickhx2 wrote:i thought that this draft was almost can't miss in the sense that we would come away quite happy with wing players who could help us now and still grow a bit.

looks like i was wrong.

Things started out so well too with so many perceived reaches early and throughout the selections leading up to our pick until there was a run on all our targeted wing prospects. Geez...it was like a colluded effort to keep us from getting the guys we were targeting. Only Korkmaz was left as a quality wing prospect who could play SF but he has availability issues that would prevent him from contributing more than what both Bullock and Wilcox have given us so far.

Ranma · Post #351 » by **Ranma** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:02 am

You know a lot of teams did quite well at the draft table today. I liked what the Hawks, Nuggets, and Celtics in particular did, but the Sixers also made out as well despite picking a player I felt was not BPA with the 1st overall pick in the draft. Two teams I want to focus on are contenders who didn't rest on their laurels after going deep in the playoffs with one of them actually winning it all.

Whereas Doc seems to sell low, whether it's trading assets or bypassing upside in favor of lower ceilings in the draft, the Thunder sold high on Ibaka by getting Oladipo, the rights to Sabonis, and Ilyasova. OKC may not have gotten the most out of the Harden trade but I can't help but be impressed with what they've done by cashing in Ibaka. Their starting lineup of Westbrook, Oladipo, Durant, Sabonis, and Adams looks well balanced. Roberson moving to the bench should help their depth while relegating Kanter to the more suitable role of bench player albeit one who is grossly overpaid should be more practical. Who knows? Maybe they can unload Kanter to Portland or someone else for even more assets.

Cleveland, still riding on the high of a long-awaited championship, didn't hesitate to utilize the draft to improve its roster. I don't know much about their draft pick Felder but I do like their proactive approach to go after targeted players. It may not be at the same level as the Spurs going after Kawhi Leonard, but it's still from the same playbook that Doc should be executing from.

Post #352 » by **mkwest** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:11 am

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DLaren · Post #353 » by **DLaren** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:22 am

nickhx2 wrote:
DLaren wrote:I like that in a time when everyone wants to hoist-up 3's we just drafted two big-men who have real post-games and a PG who likes to assault the paint (though, if we were going to draft a PG at that spot we should have taken Tyler Ulis).

Stay the course Doc.

ya doc ignores ceiling and wing needs yet again and of course you are all over his jock.

no surprise

We had the 25th, 39th, & 40th pick...we're not getting a starting wing at those spots.

We just have to hope whoever we pick makes the roster...and I think Brice Johnson will do so much more than just make the roster.

Quake Griffin · Post #354 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:32 am

If one year of Serge got the Thunder that much, I wonder what one year of Griffin would have gotten us????

Not that I'd ever consider dealing Griffin to make our team better.

nickhx2 · Post #355 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:33 am

who said anything about getting a starting wing? and what exactly does "need" mean to you? because to me it more than implies that we have a giant hole there, which we do, given our only SF under contract is an almost 40 year old paul pierce. so ya how about let's start with having at least more than on SF on the roster? or should we go into how we haven't ever had more than role players in that spot since.. ever? or how the team stupidly ignores even the idea of developing someone in that slot?

but no by all means, keep worshiping the throne of doc. because "stay the course" has been working out so well for us lmao

DLaren · Post #356 » by **DLaren** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:37 am

Ranma wrote:
DLaren wrote:I like that in a time when everyone wants to hoist-up 3's we just drafted two big-men who have real post-games and a PG who likes to assault the paint (though, if we were going to draft a PG at that spot we should have taken Tyler Ulis).

Stay the course Doc.

However, I most definitely don't agree with your sentiment to "stay the course". We're still lacking at the wing spot, which forced us to overpay for Jeff Green in trade recently while setting us up to overpay for him in salary later. What happened to his plans to trade up? Doc has come up short yet again, so continuing with business as usual is not at all what any Clippers fan should want.

By "stay the course" I meant we should continue to value the play of our big-men; we run our offense through our big-men and I want it to stay that way.

Everyone wants a star-wing player but nobody in Clipperland has the stomach to do what it would take to get one...trade Blake.

We'll never be bad enough to get one at the top of the draft and neither DJ nor CP3 are valuable enough to get one in a straight-up trade. So I'm no longer riding Doc to get a wing player, I'm happy with our core and I'm just hoping we add enough pieces around what we already have to get over the hump.

Quake Griffin · Post #357 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:48 am

DLaren wrote:Everyone wants a star-wing player but nobody in Clipperland has the stomach to do what it would take to get one...trade Blake.

Describe this "nobody."

What does he look like?
Certainly not like QG.

goof71 · Post #358 » by **goof71** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:18 am

Forte IV wrote:Who the hell is this David guy we just drafted

Hi guys !
David is the 4th drafted player of the Elan Chalon (french league), after Sefolosha, Capela and Lauvergne.
He plays PG, fast with jump, good in 1 vs 1. He played more and more last year for the team, several competitions (championship, european cup, and more). A very good prospect. I hope he can stay in Chalon this year, where the coach has built the team around him.

Some of his highlights i made with him :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w2e0j_fevrier-2016-le-focus-de-sur-david-michineau_sport

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3zwpqr_ca-c-est-un-check_sport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD08MKiLEcY

Roscoe Sheed · Post #359 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:21 am

I know many people are down on Jeff green, but I actually think he is a good 3/4 man. However doc shouldn't overpay him. That is the quandary. He basically has to overpay him because what is the alternative?

DLaren · Post #360 » by **DLaren** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:21 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
DLaren wrote:Everyone wants a star-wing player but nobody in Clipperland has the stomach to do what it would take to get one...trade Blake.

Describe this "nobody."

What does he look like?
Certainly not like QG.

Interesting...3 years ago you fought me tooth-and-nail when I suggested we trade Blake for Melo.

Now, I'm the one whose not in the mood to trade Blake -- what can I say? He's grown on me...plus it would be more satisfying to win with these guys after all we've been through.