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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1141 » by K I N G S » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:54 am

I was on the keep DMC side for a long time but it needs to happen, I see no other way now after the selections that were made in this draft. Gay and Koufos aren't going to get us much. DMC for Russell and Ingram. Who says no?
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1142 » by teerfour+40LG » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:57 am

K I N G S wrote: I see no other way now after the selections that were made in this draft.
That's why you're not the GM. Kindly stop posting your anti-Cousins garbage. He is staying.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1143 » by K I N G S » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:17 am

teerfour+40LG wrote:
K I N G S wrote: I see no other way now after the selections that were made in this draft.
That's why you're not the GM. Kindly stop posting your anti-Cousins garbage. He is staying.


So tell me our potential roster for next season since you're the brilliant GM.

Rondo :lol: /Seth Curry
Mclemore/Richardson
Gay/Casspi
WCS/Skal
DMC/Koufos/Papajohn

Doubt we get 30 wins with that.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1144 » by Jkam31 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:01 pm

K I N G S wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:
K I N G S wrote: I see no other way now after the selections that were made in this draft.
That's why you're not the GM. Kindly stop posting your anti-Cousins garbage. He is staying.


So tell me our potential roster for next season since you're the brilliant GM.

Rondo :lol: /Seth Curry
Mclemore/Richardson
Gay/Casspi
WCS/Skal
DMC/Koufos/Papajohn

Doubt we get 30 wins with that.


Lol he was right good thing you're not the gm cause you don't know that there's a free agency period after this.


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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1145 » by codydaze » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:59 pm

I wonder if Conley doesn't end up signing here if we could get Beverly for Koufos. I read they were shopping him before the draft so maybe he's available. That would free up some frontcourt cluster and Beverly/Collison would be a nice PG duo.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1146 » by BucksPackers » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:46 pm

Just curious if you guys won't be able to resign Cousins would you be interested in a Parker and thon for Cousins deal? If Cousins would resign 5-6 years with us.
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Re: Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1147 » by City of Trees » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:25 pm

BucksPackers wrote:Just curious if you guys won't be able to resign Cousins would you be interested in a Parker and thon for Cousins deal? If Cousins would resign 5-6 years with us.

It'll take more than Parker + 10 this year to get Cousins.


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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1148 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:36 pm

K I N G S wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:
K I N G S wrote: I see no other way now after the selections that were made in this draft.
That's why you're not the GM. Kindly stop posting your anti-Cousins garbage. He is staying.


So tell me our potential roster for next season since you're the brilliant GM.

Rondo :lol: /Seth Curry
Mclemore/Richardson
Gay/Casspi
WCS/Skal
DMC/Koufos/Papajohn

Doubt we get 30 wins with that.



I don't know, they got 33 while fighting their coaches blatant mismanagement every night. So, there's that I guess.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1149 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:39 pm

codydaze wrote:I wonder if Conley doesn't end up signing here if we could get Beverly for Koufos. I read they were shopping him before the draft so maybe he's available. That would free up some frontcourt cluster and Beverly/Collison would be a nice PG duo.



He better be thinking about moving Kosta although I can't see the drafted players the Kings got having a ton of value whether they sit or play in limited minutes so it shouldn't hurt them much.

You just have to hope the Rox get spurned by every big in FA or they all ask for max, then maybe, just maybe Koufos could be an option.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1150 » by Crimson King » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:19 pm

I hope Ben is traded ASAP. Don't want to still see him as our forever starting SG on provisional team rosters.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1151 » by K I N G S » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:20 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
K I N G S wrote:
teerfour+40LG wrote:That's why you're not the GM. Kindly stop posting your anti-Cousins garbage. He is staying.


So tell me our potential roster for next season since you're the brilliant GM.

Rondo :lol: /Seth Curry
Mclemore/Richardson
Gay/Casspi
WCS/Skal
DMC/Koufos/Papajohn

Doubt we get 30 wins with that.


Lol he was right good thing you're not the gm cause you don't know that there's a free agency period after this.


We're not getting anyone of significance. None of the top draftees would even work out for us or give us their medicals. The agents know what's up and they're steering players away. Probably why we had to take Papajohn.

Conley not coming here when he'll get the same offers from functional franchises. We'll end up overpaying for role players like Augustin or reclamation project like Rondo.

Tell me who the big free agents are we gonna sign?
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1152 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:58 pm

There will be a lot of if's regarding the Suns in this statement. But if the Suns decide to move on from Tyson Chandler or he were to want out and we traded him, and then if Knight didn't want to come off the bench, I wonder if a Knight for Casspi/Koufos deal will work. Most Suns fans will hate an idea like this but we would need a decent backup C and with Tucker in the last year, we could use a serviceable 3/4 who could hit 3s (though I don't even know if Casspi does this as I haven't watched him much).

I don't know if you guys would like Knight as your starting PG, but in this case you wouldn't be giving up much. I don't know if the Suns would make such a deal and many Suns fans either want to keep Knight or think he has much more trade value than that, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1153 » by enderwilson » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:07 am

K I N G S wrote:We're not getting anyone of significance. None of the top draftees would even work out for us or give us their medicals. The agents know what's up and they're steering players away. Probably why we had to take Papajohn.

Conley not coming here when he'll get the same offers from functional franchises. We'll end up overpaying for role players like Augustin or reclamation project like Rondo.

Tell me who the big free agents are we gonna sign?


You're right, we're not going to make a splash in FA. Our best chance to bring someone of significance in is via trade. However, should we look to burn our assets before the rest of the league has gone through free agency and before teams are more willing and perhaps desperate to improve their roster?

There will be winners and losers in FA. The winners might be more willing to make trades to build around their new acquisitions. The losers might be more willing to shake up their rosters in an effort to make some improvements. The King's FO just turned Belli and #8 into 4 young prospects (5 with lil cuz) with strong potential upside for any team willing to develop them. This was after losing out on the players they were truly interested in. It's called making lemonade out of lemons.

I think we can afford to be a little more patient and see what happens with free agency before making a move. Neither I nor anyone else knows whats going to happen next. I for one have NEVER been a fan of trying to improve the team through the draft but am finding this one fascinating. I'm particularly enjoying all the "sky is falling" comments on this thread. Please don't stop the pitchfork and torch waving on my account. :wink:
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1154 » by enderwilson » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:10 am

bwgood77 wrote:There will be a lot of if's regarding the Suns in this statement. But if the Suns decide to move on from Tyson Chandler or he were to want out and we traded him, and then if Knight didn't want to come off the bench, I wonder if a Knight for Casspi/Koufos deal will work. Most Suns fans will hate an idea like this but we would need a decent backup C and with Tucker in the last year, we could use a serviceable 3/4 who could hit 3s (though I don't even know if Casspi does this as I haven't watched him much).

I don't know if you guys would like Knight as your starting PG, but in this case you wouldn't be giving up much. I don't know if the Suns would make such a deal and many Suns fans either want to keep Knight or think he has much more trade value than that, but I'm not sure.


Problem is that Casspi is sort of a bench/locker room glue guy for us. And on a team with Cuz and Rondo, it would be hard to let him go. Is there something else that would work?
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1155 » by dozencousins » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:23 am

c3j3h wrote:
dozencousins wrote:Kings closing in on another trade . Haven't been told what team or for whom . Just was texted & source said just stay tuned won't say anything Further unless a deal is all but done . Draft day trades a lot of possible deals fall through .


Can you give us an estimate on the amount of cocaine that was involved in trading away Marquese Chriss for 13/28/and a guy that won't play here for at least another season (if at all), and subsequently using that lottery pick on a guy that was projected to go in the mid second round?


You present that question to me as if I have a say so . I only have knowledge of trade chatter , once in a while on a free agent and that is rarer . I have heard things the past few years about coaches . In comparison my info is mainly trade chatter .
I try and provide info to the board if people want it as best as I can .

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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1156 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:23 am

enderwilson wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:There will be a lot of if's regarding the Suns in this statement. But if the Suns decide to move on from Tyson Chandler or he were to want out and we traded him, and then if Knight didn't want to come off the bench, I wonder if a Knight for Casspi/Koufos deal will work. Most Suns fans will hate an idea like this but we would need a decent backup C and with Tucker in the last year, we could use a serviceable 3/4 who could hit 3s (though I don't even know if Casspi does this as I haven't watched him much).

I don't know if you guys would like Knight as your starting PG, but in this case you wouldn't be giving up much. I don't know if the Suns would make such a deal and many Suns fans either want to keep Knight or think he has much more trade value than that, but I'm not sure.


Problem is that Casspi is sort of a bench/locker room glue guy for us. And on a team with Cuz and Rondo, it would be hard to let him go. Is there something else that would work?


I don't know. I think most Phx fans would think that wasn't enough for Knight. Some want to get rid of Tucker who is a great locker room, glue guy who plays with a ton of heart (so he could be added to deal), but it kind of doesn't make sense to swap them if they are that important for their team. I don't know....I just am not sure what assets you have that fit other than perhaps those two. We really don't need a guard, and kind of just need a little depth at sf/pf.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1157 » by ThatBoyNick » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:38 am

dozencousins wrote: I only have knowledge of trade chatter , once in a while on a free agent and that is rarer . I have heard things the past few years about coaches . In comparison my info is mainly trade chatter .
I try and provide info to the board if people want it as best as I can .

We are not done yet .


Hey dozencousins, a couple of posters on my forum said the Rockets had some talks with the kings on draft day, did you hear or have any details on that? Have you heard anything on the Rockets in general?

Sorry I know your sources are with the kings, i'm just a fiend this time of the year and any info would be much apreciated.
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Re: Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1158 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:08 pm

dozencousins wrote:We are not done yet.

There's a strong feeling on our board that there is a lot more to the Belinelli trade than we know about. We are launching an NBDL team and we need cap space because we want to resign a lot of our FAs, so we expected to be adding prospects and cutting salary, not trading away our pick to take on salary.

We were rumored to be interested in Papagiannis, Thon, and Brogdon. Very curious if any of those find their way to Charlotte this summer when the Belinelli trade is wrapped up, with MIL getting pulled in for a three way trade.

We do know that we have Courtenay Lee's bird rights and he and Joerger have some history from their MEM days (and I suspect you guys would like a SG upgrade), so seems like a CLee S&T could be in the works.
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Post#1159 » by City of Trees » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:43 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
dozencousins wrote:We are not done yet.

There's a strong feeling on our board that there is a lot more to the Belinelli trade than we know about. We are launching an NBDL team and we need cap space because we want to resign a lot of our FAs, so we expected to be adding prospects and cutting salary, not trading away our pick to take on salary.

We were rumored to be interested in Papagiannis, Thon, and Brogdon. Very curious if any of those find their way to Charlotte this summer when the Belinelli trade is wrapped up, with MIL getting pulled in for a three way trade.

We do know that we have Courtenay Lee's bird rights and he and Joerger have some history from their MEM days (and I suspect you guys would like a SG upgrade), so seems like a CLee S&T could be in the works.

I know you guys over there on the Charlotte board are speculating and I dont blame you. Only addition I can see is Lamb being added. No way you guys get our #13 pick and Marco for #22 and Lamb like some have said on your board. That's absurd.

I personally have said I'm waiting to see Lamb added.

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Re: Trade Idea Thread 15-16 

Post#1160 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:46 pm

If it's just Lamb why not announce the full trade?

Do you guys even want Richardson? You didn't work him out and Vlade hasn't mentioned him at all, has he?

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