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Post#21 » by 34Celtic » Wed Jul 4, 2007 5:22 pm

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You can't tell what he is going to do in the majors based on 50 minor league innings.


Thats what I'm saying in the minor league thread. I love this kid.
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Post#22 » by Yankee » Wed Jul 4, 2007 8:45 pm

he was pretty impressive yesterday
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Post#23 » by nykgeneralmanager » Wed Jul 4, 2007 11:13 pm

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You can't tell what he is going to do in the majors based on 50 minor league innings.

I think he'll be a good reliever, but relievers are erratic from year to year. How many relievers have been consistently good for over 10 years? Wagner, Mo and Hoffman. That's about it.

And you can't tell me he can't do it based off of 50 minor league innings. We'll just have to wait and see. I saw him make a fool of the reigning AL batting champ and the reigning AL MVP last night in his major league debut. But there is no point in arguing over predictions, lets just wait it out.
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Post#24 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:08 am

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And you can't tell me he can't do it based off of 50 minor league innings. We'll just have to wait and see. I saw him make a fool of the reigning AL batting champ and the reigning AL MVP last night in his major league debut. But there is no point in arguing over predictions, lets just wait it out.


I saw Tyler Clippard fool Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran. What the hell does that mean? He's in the minors right now, so obviously it means nothing. Any pitcher can fool any hitter. The key is for him to be consistent.
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Post#25 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:21 am

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I saw Tyler Clippard fool Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran. What the hell does that mean? He's in the minors right now, so obviously it means nothing. Any pitcher can fool any hitter. The key is for him to be consistent.

Ramirez is KNOWN for making hitters look foolish, Clippard got by because nobody knew what he threw and quickly caught up to him thereafter. Ramirez's K rates are 10 times more impressive than Clippard's were in the minors, so that argument wouldn't even make sense. I don't know what your problem is, but you seem to have an issue with ANYTHING somebody says and turn it into a 2 page discussion. It's not as though I'm saying he is amazing and should be put on the final all-star ballot for the fan voting. From what I saw, read, and his numbers in the minors, I believe he will be good. You want to wait before you say that. The end.
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Post#26 » by cmaff051 » Thu Jul 5, 2007 12:32 am

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Ramirez is KNOWN for making hitters look foolish, Clippard got by because nobody knew what he threw and quickly caught up to him thereafter. Ramirez's K rates are 10 times more impressive than Clippard's were in the minors, so that argument wouldn't even make sense. I don't know what your problem is, but you seem to have an issue with ANYTHING somebody says and turn it into a 2 page discussion. It's not as though I'm saying he is amazing and should be put on the final all-star ballot for the fan voting. From what I saw, read, and his numbers in the minors, I believe he will be good. You want to wait before you say that. The end.


Umm.. okay? :crazy: :crazy: Clippard had K-rates of 9 or higher all the way through the minors, so to say he wasn't a strikeout pitcher is ludicrous. He didn't strike out as much as Ramirez did, but he's not a reliever either so it's a moot point.
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Post#27 » by 34Celtic » Thu Jul 5, 2007 1:50 am

Anyone have video? I missed the game last night
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Post#28 » by nykgeneralmanager » Thu Jul 5, 2007 1:51 am

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Umm.. okay? :crazy: :crazy: Clippard had K-rates of 9 or higher all the way through the minors, so to say he wasn't a strikeout pitcher is ludicrous. He didn't strike out as much as Ramirez did, but he's not a reliever either so it's a moot point.

Point out where I said Clippard didn't put up good K rates in the minors. I said they weren't nearly as good as Ramirez's, which you just reiterated in your post. So...
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Post#29 » by Ballings7 » Thu Jul 5, 2007 3:00 am

Very impressive last night, though just one inning... will be interesting to see how he goes. Seems to have promise.
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Post#30 » by NYKnSTILL! » Thu Jul 5, 2007 4:41 am

34Celtic wrote:Anyone have video? I missed the game last night


it's on mlb.com players archive

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