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Post#421 » by lolwut » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:04 pm

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Ehh...not really racist when you just look at the kind of energy and stamina in his play. He looks like he can be continuously on the move, which could bode well for his rebounding. But Siakam seems like he can be a better passer and scorer. Bismack will be a better rebounder than Siakam, just based off wingspan alone (like 4 inches difference).

75% the D of Bismack with better scoring and probably a bit less rebounding would be how i'd like the Raps to take his development, since that's the kind of player that could thrive on this team, and seems like the kind of potential that can be developed in him.


It's not racist because Africa is not a race.



Last I heard, African is a race, just like african-american.

Is North American a race?
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Post#422 » by Kabookalu » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:06 pm

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It's not racist because Africa is not a race.



Last I heard, African is a race, just like african-american.

Is North American a race?


North is a race.
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Post#423 » by Lucky26 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:09 pm

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It's not racist because Africa is not a race.



Last I heard, African is a race, just like african-american.

Is North American a race?



Nope because most North Americans aren't indigenous to the continent. Africans are, except the ones that were forced off the land to America, which is why we call them African American.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#424 » by Yallbecrazy » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:17 pm

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TdotRap4Lyfe wrote:I wonder if Masai only drafted him because he is african, and was likely in one of his camps lol.

I hope the kid proves me wrong and becomes a good role player, but I'll be salty about this for a few days. Could have had Skal or Davis as well...sigh

you know the origin place of the human race was Africa. Dude played college ball and domianted and insane measuremenrs. Who cares where he is from.


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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#425 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:20 pm

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Based on my expert analysis of watching one of his youtube clips, he reminds me of Quincy Acy.

The people that know Paskal Siakam, and didn't go WTF when his name was announced, really like him for what it's worth. Just reading his profile he's one of those late bloomers that started playing basketball at an older age. The upside is that the sport he played before basketball was soccer. No idea how he'll pan out, but we'll see what he can do in the D-League.



Thank you. Pascal is tall, long PF who can guard the perimeter, block shots and will eventually be a shooter. We still need some outside shooting but he's a perfect guy for our system and he doesn't have to operate in the same space as JV.

I agree with most of your points. He is tall, long, can guard the perimeter and block shots. He tested as a very solid athlete.
However, how do we know he will eventually be a shooter? Some guys get there and some don't. He seems comfortable shooting 10-15 feet from the basket judging by highlights and his pre-draft workout videos. Looks terrible from further out though. Not saying it's impossible for him to develop it, but we shouldn't just assume it's a given.


We don't know actually. He might never be a capable shooter, same with Poeltl but Poeltl is more likely. But he's a 27th pick so it's a good risk. If he had an outside shot he would be higher than Chriss.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#426 » by Lucky26 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:24 pm

Where Siakam is today is the brink of getting drafted. Most mock drafts predict he'll be taken in the second round, and one or two have him rising into the late first round. Menzies thinks if Siakam does become a second-round pick, he'll one day be considered a great bargain, a steal.
"He's going to make somebody really happy," Menzies said. "People don't understand. You can only get so much out of a brief interview, or scouting. You can't really evaluate an individual. But after having him with me for three years, I can tell you, whoever ends up drafting him will be more than pleased."


Siakam's first post tutor agrees. Brown followed up a telephone interview for this story with two subsequent text messages as he kept thinking of different facets of Siakam's game that will translate to the NBA: The high motor. Offensive rebounding. The ability to put the ball on the floor and go by defenders. A jump shot that now extends past the 3-point line. But of all Siakam's skills, Brown thinks one stands out.
"Defensively, he's really special," Brown said. "He is a multiple-effort defender. He can switch all screens and guard perimeter players. He hedges and recovers and stunts and gets back and plays multiple times throughout a single possession. He's not one and done. He also blocks shots. I think he can step in as an NBA four man right now."


This guy is our Draymond Green, book it. Great story about how his dad's wish was for one of his sons to be in the NBA but he died in 2014. His family all went to the funeral but told Pascal to stay in uni because thats what his dad would want. He really matured after that.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/chris_dortch/06/17/pascal-siakam-hoping-to-land-in-nba-and-fulfill-his-fathers-dream/index.html?cid=nbacomsocial_tw_sf28994298
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#427 » by notsla refar » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:26 pm

CrookedJ wrote:Shot looks passable in videos, but his FT has been an challenge - 77% last season, but down to 68% this year.

Better than Biz.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#428 » by NBA Sheady » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:29 pm

SaveTheHens wrote:I still don't get it, especially after seeing the wiretap again saying we're interested in skal at 9. If we were interested at 9, why wouldn't we take him at 27? Smokescreen???


Just because it's on the wiretap doesn't mean it is anything more than a rumor.

Unless you see an actual named quote it's speculation and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#429 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:31 pm

Risk101 wrote:Lol why does Wade care who we pick :lol:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/746343992757993472[/tweet]


That was cute.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#430 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:34 pm

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SaveTheHens wrote:I still don't get it, especially after seeing the wiretap again saying we're interested in skal at 9. If we were interested at 9, why wouldn't we take him at 27? Smokescreen???


Just because it's on the wiretap doesn't mean it is anything more than a rumor.

Unless you see an actual named quote it's speculation and shouldn't be taken seriously.


Yeah it's all games. Apparently Pascal ate his lunch when they worked out so in that way it's like Bruno. Go looking for one thing and find a hidden gem.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#431 » by NBA Sheady » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:35 pm

This guy is quick enough to defend the 4 and long enough to be the ideal 5 for todays NBA.

Given his background and history it's reasonable to expect significant offensive improvement. Given where his D and rebounding are right now I think he can see the floor next year.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#432 » by SpiderMunn » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:39 pm

Paskal tied for 3rd in max vert reach @ 12' for the draft class, and tied for 7th for no step @ 11'6"

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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#433 » by Mikistan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:46 pm

SpiderMunn wrote:Paskal tied for 3rd in max vert reach @ 12' for the draft class, and tied for 7th for no step @ 11'6"

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Looking at these numbers, its hard to believe the scouting reports that say he isn't great at getting off the ground. Maybe they should od max vert with ball in hands for these draft combines too!
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#434 » by TheGoodDoctor » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:00 pm

Lucky26 wrote:
Where Siakam is today is the brink of getting drafted. Most mock drafts predict he'll be taken in the second round, and one or two have him rising into the late first round. Menzies thinks if Siakam does become a second-round pick, he'll one day be considered a great bargain, a steal.
"He's going to make somebody really happy," Menzies said. "People don't understand. You can only get so much out of a brief interview, or scouting. You can't really evaluate an individual. But after having him with me for three years, I can tell you, whoever ends up drafting him will be more than pleased."


Siakam's first post tutor agrees. Brown followed up a telephone interview for this story with two subsequent text messages as he kept thinking of different facets of Siakam's game that will translate to the NBA: The high motor. Offensive rebounding. The ability to put the ball on the floor and go by defenders. A jump shot that now extends past the 3-point line. But of all Siakam's skills, Brown thinks one stands out.
"Defensively, he's really special," Brown said. "He is a multiple-effort defender. He can switch all screens and guard perimeter players. He hedges and recovers and stunts and gets back and plays multiple times throughout a single possession. He's not one and done. He also blocks shots. I think he can step in as an NBA four man right now."


This guy is our Draymond Green, book it. Great story about how his dad's wish was for one of his sons to be in the NBA but he died in 2014. His family all went to the funeral but told Pascal to stay in uni because thats what his dad would want. He really matured after that.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/chris_dortch/06/17/pascal-siakam-hoping-to-land-in-nba-and-fulfill-his-fathers-dream/index.html?cid=nbacomsocial_tw_sf28994298


Sooooo Draymond Green minus the handles, passing and 3pt shot....riiiight

Is he at least good at groin kicks to warrant the comparison??
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#435 » by djsunyc » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:03 pm

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Risk101 wrote:Lol why does Wade care who we pick :lol:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/746343992757993472[/tweet]


That was cute.


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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#436 » by TheGoodDoctor » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:06 pm

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Risk101 wrote:Lol why does Wade care who we pick :lol:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/746343992757993472[/tweet]


That was cute.


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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#437 » by Mr. Natural » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:11 pm

RaptorsLife wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/730829390150533120?p=p Chad ford called it 2 months ago. He really rose draft boards after draft combine


Ford really has a hand on the pulse of the Raptors considering he had us linked to Skal and Dejounte Murray at #9 who the Raptors passed on at #27.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#438 » by hyper316 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:21 pm

How does Pascal compare with Taj Gibson??
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#439 » by RaptorsLife » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:27 pm

Mr. Natural wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/730829390150533120?p=p Chad ford called it 2 months ago. He really rose draft boards after draft combine


Ford really has a hand on the pulse of the Raptors considering he had us linked to Skal and Dejounte Murray at #9 who the Raptors passed on at #27.

he didnt say the raptors are gonna draft pascal. he said pascal is having a great combine and has great chance to sneak into the last 1st which what happened
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#440 » by mowcrowbar » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:37 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
mowcrowbar wrote:So this draft was like Bruno all over again.



This draft is nothing close to Bruno. If we drafted Skal and Davis that would be like Bruno. Explain why you think this.



Unexpected, especially with Sabonis on the board. Also, Paskal was projected as a late 2nd round pick.There, two reasons why.

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