Time to get excited

[gazken]

Getting Serge last night was a great result for the team. Although losing Dipo is disapointing.

Going forward though Mario and Evan being such 3 point threats were the way to go.

Free agency is going to be interesting now. We are TONS more attractive now we have Vogel and Serge in the fold. Plus playing in the east will help the pitch to free agents.

I dont want to dream like some posters have been but whatever I'll say it. Does this mean Durant is a posibilty ??

Will Al Horford wont be a target now we have Serge.

Got a big feeling Hennys leaning towards making a play for Conley now. Keep Payton as back up and to learn off conley maybe.

Id love us to make a play for Biyombo but unless we package Vuc with someone to get another player i cant see that one now.

[OrlandoDream]

I wanted Conley but his recent injuries scare me. He's pretty banged up at his age. Aside from that he is tough as nails and a terrific pg. I would have much rather see a Dipo and Conley backcourt then bench elf and go with Conley and Evan.

[EAS Law]

The real beauty of this is that we don't need Horford or Biyombo anymore. Serge is an individual that brings the best of both of those players into one, on a less than max deal. That's huge.

This means we have less to focus on in Free Agency and need less moving parts to work out in our favor. We can focus on getting that deadly wing now to push us into the conversation as a contender while maintaining enough cap flexibility to either wait until next time, or make a big splash again.

Having someone who has made all defensive teams and is a candidate as an all star year after year is a big deal for us. Ibaka is as legitimate as it comes to being our "best" player.

I couldn't care less about his one season under Donovan. Look at how being traded worked out for Harden. OKC's players fall victim to their own success. They were once loaded with SO MUCH talent, that you saw diminishing returns. Harden and Ibaka are prime examples of this.

Anyone remember when KG went to Boston how he would routinely have games with like 10/6, 15/7 or something, but his presence won them games? That's what Ibaka was doing in OKC. Durant and Westbrook are terrific players and their dominance hid the numbers their other guys were capable of putting up.

Sorry for the long winded reply, but I'm seriously completely fed up with these simplistic doom and gloom analyses of our moves and team.

You'd swear Hennigan was some idiot with the way the media and fans of other teams react to his moves.

We started from a complete, 100% bottom to top rebuild 4 seasons ago. Our BEST player was Aaron Afflalo. Think about that. Dwight Howard ruined our franchise, and this was probably the best we could have possibly done up to now.

Danny Ainge gets a lot of credit all the time, but his guys never put a gun to his head and took away his leverage in trade discussions. Look at Denver, who went through something just like us. They've struggled mightily since Melo, and don't ever really seem to make any moves at all. No, Orlando is always the jackass of every trade or signing, yet somehow, we improve our record every single year and add talent through the draft or trade. I'm good with Rob and I want to thank him for being so patient and setting us up for a sustainable future with a 26(!) year old seasoned Finals, WCF, playoff veteran that meets all of our dire needs.

[Dgbarnes]

The real beauty of this is that we don't need Horford or Biyombo anymore. Serge is an individual that brings the best of both of those players into one, on a less than max deal. That's huge.

This means we have less to focus on in Free Agency and need less moving parts to work out in our favor. We can focus on getting that deadly wing now to push us into the conversation as a contender while maintaining enough cap flexibility to either wait until next time, or make a big splash again.

Having someone who has made all defensive teams and is a candidate as an all star year after year is a big deal for us. Ibaka is as legitimate as it comes to being our "best" player.

I couldn't care less about his one season under Donovan. Look at how being traded worked out for Harden. OKC's players fall victim to their own success. They were once loaded with SO MUCH talent, that you saw diminishing returns. Harden and Ibaka are prime examples of this.

Anyone remember when KG went to Boston how he would routinely have games with like 10/6, 15/7 or something, but his presence won them games? That's what Ibaka was doing in OKC. Durant and Westbrook are terrific players and their dominance hid the numbers their other guys were capable of putting up.

Sorry for the long winded reply, but I'm seriously completely fed up with these simplistic doom and gloom analyses of our moves and team.

You'd swear Hennigan was some idiot with the way the media and fans of other teams react to his moves.

We started from a complete, 100% bottom to top rebuild 4 seasons ago. Our BEST player was Aaron Afflalo. Think about that. Dwight Howard ruined our franchise, and this was probably the best we could have possibly done up to now.

Danny Ainge gets a lot of credit all the time, but his guys never put a gun to his head and took away his leverage in trade discussions. Look at Denver, who went through something just like us. They've struggled mightily since Melo, and don't ever really seem to make any moves at all. No, Orlando is always the jackass of every trade or signing, yet somehow, we improve our record every single year and add talent through the draft or trade. I'm good with Rob and I want to thank him for being so patient and setting us up for a sustainable future with a 26(!) year old seasoned Finals, WCF, playoff veteran that meets all of our dire needs.

Solid post. Everyone thinks there has to be a winner and loser with every trade, yet this trade clearly improves both teams.

[NBAchamps2017]

I'll hold mine till we get either Rondo or Conley as our Point man. We need to have an all star type vet running our team. These two guys have been in the playoffs. Rondo is a champion. They have enough swagger and confidence to play against elite PG.

[EAS Law]

I'll hold mine till we get either Rondo or Conley as our Point man. We need to have an all star type vet running our team. These two guys have been in the playoffs. Rondo is a champion. They have enough swagger and confidence to play against elite PG.

A guy like Rondo wouldn't fit in with our team. I'd be more than happy for Conley. I really would prefer to see Elfrid take a major step forward and be that guy, but that may not be realistic to ask or expect.

I think composure and ability to anticipate are what we lack. We lost A LOT of super close games last season because of a lack of those two intangibles.

[Incognito76]

I don't get it how people don't get that team with bad shooters like Payton, Oladipo and Gordon can't go far. We traded SG who is bad 3 point shooter (and around the rim too) for PF who fits our biggest need (rim protection) and can also shoot from midrange and 3 point line. Fornier can also play more minutes at 2 which is his better position. We now have better shooting and better defense. If we add someone like Lin to fight for starting PG spot (which he should get at Orlando) we will make playoffs easy.

[NBAchamps2017]

I'll hold mine till we get either Rondo or Conley as our Point man. We need to have an all star type vet running our team. These two guys have been in the playoffs. Rondo is a champion. They have enough swagger and confidence to play against elite PG.

A guy like Rondo wouldn't fit in with our team.

Care to expound why he won't fit here? Please drop that "he's a locker room cancer" argument, because comes July 1st a lot of teams will be at his door begging him to be their point man.

[OrlandO]

I dont want to dream like some posters have been but whatever I'll say it. Does this mean Durant is a posibilty ??

While I think losing Ibaka hurts their defense, I think it makes KD re-signing in OKC more likely seeing how he always raved about Dipo. Contrary to what's rumored, I would be surprised if Presti didn't consult with Durant before pulling the trigger. Wonder if KD was even that big on Ibaka? Haven't looked into that aspect...

[EAS Law]

I'll hold mine till we get either Rondo or Conley as our Point man. We need to have an all star type vet running our team. These two guys have been in the playoffs. Rondo is a champion. They have enough swagger and confidence to play against elite PG.

A guy like Rondo wouldn't fit in with our team.

Care to expound why he won't fit here? Please drop that "he's a locker room cancer" argument, because comes July 1st a lot of teams will be at his door begging him to be their point man.

I'm not going to call him a cancer, but I'm sorry, his well-documented attitude issues are a real problem.

I don't think we need him because of redundancy. We already have a PG with shooting problems, far less adding another who will command a lot of money

If Rondo, as a rookie, was so problematic in a locker room of 3 HOFers and a well-respected coach like Doc, what makes you think he'd be good to bring around a young team that has never made the playoffs as the vet?

Rondo hasn't been able to add much to teams like Dallas or Sacramento, so I doubt that his impact here would do much good for anyone. Sacto has an AllStar C, a former AllStar wing, and he couldn't get them into the playoff hunt far less into the playoffs in a down year for the Western Conference.

Conley, I'm good with though. Good character, can shoot, great vision, tough player.

[BadMofoPimp]

The real beauty of this is that we don't need Horford or Biyombo anymore. Serge is an individual that brings the best of both of those players into one, on a less than max deal. That's huge.

This means we have less to focus on in Free Agency and need less moving parts to work out in our favor. We can focus on getting that deadly wing now to push us into the conversation as a contender while maintaining enough cap flexibility to either wait until next time, or make a big splash again.

Having someone who has made all defensive teams and is a candidate as an all star year after year is a big deal for us. Ibaka is as legitimate as it comes to being our "best" player.

I couldn't care less about his one season under Donovan. Look at how being traded worked out for Harden. OKC's players fall victim to their own success. They were once loaded with SO MUCH talent, that you saw diminishing returns. Harden and Ibaka are prime examples of this.

Anyone remember when KG went to Boston how he would routinely have games with like 10/6, 15/7 or something, but his presence won them games? That's what Ibaka was doing in OKC. Durant and Westbrook are terrific players and their dominance hid the numbers their other guys were capable of putting up.

Sorry for the long winded reply, but I'm seriously completely fed up with these simplistic doom and gloom analyses of our moves and team.

You'd swear Hennigan was some idiot with the way the media and fans of other teams react to his moves.

We started from a complete, 100% bottom to top rebuild 4 seasons ago. Our BEST player was Aaron Afflalo. Think about that. Dwight Howard ruined our franchise, and this was probably the best we could have possibly done up to now.

Danny Ainge gets a lot of credit all the time, but his guys never put a gun to his head and took away his leverage in trade discussions. Look at Denver, who went through something just like us. They've struggled mightily since Melo, and don't ever really seem to make any moves at all. No, Orlando is always the jackass of every trade or signing, yet somehow, we improve our record every single year and add talent through the draft or trade. I'm good with Rob and I want to thank him for being so patient and setting us up for a sustainable future with a 26(!) year old seasoned Finals, WCF, playoff veteran that meets all of our dire needs.

Not to sound like too much of a Debbie Downer, but it seems to me we are not building a Championship caliber team this way, but just a solid Playoff Team. It will all be down to Henny to Sign or Trade for Elite talent to truly take us to the next level while we just lost our best Trade Asset.

[EAS Law]

The real beauty of this is that we don't need Horford or Biyombo anymore. Serge is an individual that brings the best of both of those players into one, on a less than max deal. That's huge.

This means we have less to focus on in Free Agency and need less moving parts to work out in our favor. We can focus on getting that deadly wing now to push us into the conversation as a contender while maintaining enough cap flexibility to either wait until next time, or make a big splash again.

Having someone who has made all defensive teams and is a candidate as an all star year after year is a big deal for us. Ibaka is as legitimate as it comes to being our "best" player.

I couldn't care less about his one season under Donovan. Look at how being traded worked out for Harden. OKC's players fall victim to their own success. They were once loaded with SO MUCH talent, that you saw diminishing returns. Harden and Ibaka are prime examples of this.

Anyone remember when KG went to Boston how he would routinely have games with like 10/6, 15/7 or something, but his presence won them games? That's what Ibaka was doing in OKC. Durant and Westbrook are terrific players and their dominance hid the numbers their other guys were capable of putting up.

Sorry for the long winded reply, but I'm seriously completely fed up with these simplistic doom and gloom analyses of our moves and team.

You'd swear Hennigan was some idiot with the way the media and fans of other teams react to his moves.

We started from a complete, 100% bottom to top rebuild 4 seasons ago. Our BEST player was Aaron Afflalo. Think about that. Dwight Howard ruined our franchise, and this was probably the best we could have possibly done up to now.

Danny Ainge gets a lot of credit all the time, but his guys never put a gun to his head and took away his leverage in trade discussions. Look at Denver, who went through something just like us. They've struggled mightily since Melo, and don't ever really seem to make any moves at all. No, Orlando is always the jackass of every trade or signing, yet somehow, we improve our record every single year and add talent through the draft or trade. I'm good with Rob and I want to thank him for being so patient and setting us up for a sustainable future with a 26(!) year old seasoned Finals, WCF, playoff veteran that meets all of our dire needs.

Not to sound like too much of a Debbie Downer, but it seems to me we are not building a Championship caliber team this way, but just a solid Playoff Team. It will all be down to Henny to Sign or Trade for Elite talent to truly take us to the next level while we just lost our best Trade Asset.

See, I don't disagree with your point, but I believe that's fine. No team goes from lottery to finals unless something dramatic happens, like LeBron returning to Cleveland or McHale trading a future HOFer with about 7 good years left to your team for nothing. It usually follows a progression. We will soon see if Rob is ready to pull the trigger on a "core" after FA, or if we will be patient again while continuing to take steps forward (playoffs).

I disagree that Dipo was our best trade asset. I believe that asset is AG (who I wouldn't trade at this point unless for an established superstar), followed by Vuc simply because, while he isn't without fault, he's top flight at his position, young, and his position is scarce of truly elite skill.

I will miss Mr. 540 as well. He was super exciting on many occasions and I loved watching him grow, but you have to give to receive.

[TheShoe1010]

The real beauty of this is that we don't need Horford or Biyombo anymore. Serge is an individual that brings the best of both of those players into one, on a less than max deal. That's huge.

This means we have less to focus on in Free Agency and need less moving parts to work out in our favor. We can focus on getting that deadly wing now to push us into the conversation as a contender while maintaining enough cap flexibility to either wait until next time, or make a big splash again.

Having someone who has made all defensive teams and is a candidate as an all star year after year is a big deal for us. Ibaka is as legitimate as it comes to being our "best" player.

I couldn't care less about his one season under Donovan. Look at how being traded worked out for Harden. OKC's players fall victim to their own success. They were once loaded with SO MUCH talent, that you saw diminishing returns. Harden and Ibaka are prime examples of this.

Anyone remember when KG went to Boston how he would routinely have games with like 10/6, 15/7 or something, but his presence won them games? That's what Ibaka was doing in OKC. Durant and Westbrook are terrific players and their dominance hid the numbers their other guys were capable of putting up.

Sorry for the long winded reply, but I'm seriously completely fed up with these simplistic doom and gloom analyses of our moves and team.

You'd swear Hennigan was some idiot with the way the media and fans of other teams react to his moves.

We started from a complete, 100% bottom to top rebuild 4 seasons ago. Our BEST player was Aaron Afflalo. Think about that. Dwight Howard ruined our franchise, and this was probably the best we could have possibly done up to now.

Danny Ainge gets a lot of credit all the time, but his guys never put a gun to his head and took away his leverage in trade discussions. Look at Denver, who went through something just like us. They've struggled mightily since Melo, and don't ever really seem to make any moves at all. No, Orlando is always the jackass of every trade or signing, yet somehow, we improve our record every single year and add talent through the draft or trade. I'm good with Rob and I want to thank him for being so patient and setting us up for a sustainable future with a 26(!) year old seasoned Finals, WCF, playoff veteran that meets all of our dire needs.

Not to sound like too much of a Debbie Downer, but it seems to me we are not building a Championship caliber team this way, but just a solid Playoff Team. It will all be down to Henny to Sign or Trade for Elite talent to truly take us to the next level while we just lost our best Trade Asset.

Not to single you out, but I don't understand where people that subscribe to this way of thinking expect us to conjure up "elite talent" out of thin air (maybe pun itended?). We saw what the asking price was for Jimmy Butler last night and he's not a guy that's going to instantly transform anybody into a championship caliber team.

Look at Boston - just because we've done a decent job at accumulating young assets doesn't mean it's a guarantee we'll be able to turn them into a superstar. We have to be patient, pick our shots and keep making smart moves that fit our program and the culture we're trying to build.

This unrealistic expectation of adding a franchise saving superstar this offseason is the cause of so much strife on this board.

[NBAchamps2017]

Don't you think Vogel cannot tame him just as he handled Stephenson for like 5 years? Do you think he will not change on an environment of hard working individuals.

We won't sign him for his shooting. Fournier and Ibaka can shoot 3's and Vuc the long 2's. Gordon is athletic enough to get to the rim. Rondo can come here to facilitate and put the ball in the hands of somebody at the right time and the right place. He can make basketball so easy with his passing prowess. He can be valuable with his vast experience. His swagger and confidence is priceless. Rondo wants to win again. Now with Serge on board, he can make this team relevant again.

[NBAchamps2017]

A guy like Rondo wouldn't fit in with our team.

Care to expound why he won't fit here? Please drop that "he's a locker room cancer" argument, because comes July 1st a lot of teams will be at his door begging him to be their point man.

I'm not going to call him a cancer, but I'm sorry, his well-documented attitude issues are a real problem.

I don't think we need him because of redundancy. We already have a PG with shooting problems, far less adding another who will command a lot of money

If Rondo, as a rookie, was so problematic in a locker room of 3 HOFers and a well-respected coach like Doc, what makes you think he'd be good to bring around a young team that has never made the playoffs as the vet?

Rondo hasn't been able to add much to teams like Dallas or Sacramento, so I doubt that his impact here would do much good for anyone. Sacto has an AllStar C, a former AllStar wing, and he couldn't get them into the playoff hunt far less into the playoffs in a down year for the Western Conference.

Conley, I'm good with though. Good character, can shoot, great vision, tough player.

Don't you think Vogel cannot tame him just as he handled Stephenson for like 5 years? Do you think he will not change on an environment of hard working individuals.

We won't sign him for his shooting. Fournier and Ibaka can shoot 3's and Vuc the long 2's. Gordon is athletic enough to get to the rim. Rondo can come here to facilitate and put the ball in the hands of somebody at the right time and the right place. He can make basketball so easy with his passing prowess. He can be valuable with his vast experience. His swagger and confidence is priceless. Rondo wants to win again. Now with Serge on board, he can make this team relevant again.

By the way, if we can't get him; I will be happy with Conley as well.

[doraem0n]

KD + Derozan or Batum

This is what need to be done this summer.

[Optimus_Steel]

I am excited. We are gonna make the playoffs with this squad and that's without adding free agents. We solved several major deficiencies with just this one move and we will add more next month.

Go Magic!

[EAS Law]

Care to expound why he won't fit here? Please drop that "he's a locker room cancer" argument, because comes July 1st a lot of teams will be at his door begging him to be their point man.

I'm not going to call him a cancer, but I'm sorry, his well-documented attitude issues are a real problem.

I don't think we need him because of redundancy. We already have a PG with shooting problems, far less adding another who will command a lot of money

If Rondo, as a rookie, was so problematic in a locker room of 3 HOFers and a well-respected coach like Doc, what makes you think he'd be good to bring around a young team that has never made the playoffs as the vet?

Rondo hasn't been able to add much to teams like Dallas or Sacramento, so I doubt that his impact here would do much good for anyone. Sacto has an AllStar C, a former AllStar wing, and he couldn't get them into the playoff hunt far less into the playoffs in a down year for the Western Conference.

Conley, I'm good with though. Good character, can shoot, great vision, tough player.

Don't you think Vogel cannot tame him just as he handled Stephenson for like 5 years? Do you think he will not change on an environment of hard working individuals.

We won't sign him for his shooting. Fournier and Ibaka can shoot 3's and Vuc the long 2's. Gordon is athletic enough to get to the rim. Rondo can come here to facilitate and put the ball in the hands of somebody at the right time and the right place. He can make basketball so easy with his passing prowess. He can be valuable with his vast experience. His swagger and confidence is priceless. Rondo wants to win again. Now with Serge on board, he can make this team relevant again.

By the way, if we can't get him; I will be happy with Conley as well.

I'm not sure. It's possible of course, but Lance was comparatively lazy more than anything. Rondo's issue is that he's just a flat out jerk. DMC has literally said as much.

My position is just that it may be possible to tame Rondo and have him help us, but with so many easier, cheaper, less redundant options available, I don't see the allure. He used to be a triple double machine, but that was while he was surrounded by 3 HOF players and about 5-7 years younger.

[OrlandoNed]

I'm pretty excited too. Only one more year until Henny is fired and replaced for a GM who knows what the hell hes doing!

Committing to building around one of the worst offensive guards in the league and one of the worst defensive centers in the league. What a moron. When has that strategy ever worked in the NBA?

Built a team on a foundation on maybe they'll stop sucking on that side of the balls, maybe they'll resign with and not leave us empty handeds, and maybe he's not regressing because of his questionable true age. Who needs proven 2 way talent when you can build on giant question marks?

[MagicFan101]

I'm pretty excited too. Only one more year until Henny is fired and replaced for a GM who knows what the hell hes doing!

Committing to building around one of the worst offensive guards in the league and one of the worst defensive centers in the league. What a moron. When has that strategy ever worked in the NBA?

Built a team on a foundation on maybe they'll stop sucking on that side of the balls, maybe they'll resign with and not leave us empty handeds, and maybe he's not regressing because of his questionable true age. Who needs proven 2 way talent when you can build on giant question marks?

Your combination of ignorance and negativity is pathetic. If this is your attitude, why post here while Henny is the GM?