Whiteside + Ibaka?

[fateis007]

So I know this has already been hammered home, and the chances of us landing whiteside are slim. But let's just say we offer the guy a huge max offer and he considers it, and we land another big free agent or trade to entice him.

Imagine having AG, Whiteside, Ibaka in the starting lineup. I am not sure how it would work on offense, but that front court with frank vogel at the helm, could be the best defensive team in the NBA easily for years to come. I mean, you have 2 guys that can average 3-4blocks a game, and AG who can guard 1-4 positions.

[tiderulz]

the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

[AddiFB]

the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

Screw that. Winning a game 65-55 is just s fun as winning it 110-90

[tiderulz]

the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

Screw that. Winning a game 65-55 is just s fun as winning it 110-90

im a Bama fan who grew up learning to appreciate a 10-7 winning game.

But you are not going to hold teams that far under their scoring average, it just wont happen. You have to be able to score yourself and that front line will be the lowest scoring front line in the NBA (outside of whatever d-leaguers Philly throws out)

[ralphie9898]

the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

Yeah I don't know about that. Ibaka has a very under-rated offensive game and is a good shooter with range. Whiteside can score even though he isn't a great shooter and Gordon is making strides as a shooter but is an amazing athlete who should only get better. If Hezonja can be the guy we hope him to be he can help to provide the spacing needed for Gordon to be even more effective. And if we can get Conley he can help space the floor and provide good scoring. We may not have a go-to scorer but I think we could still have a good enough offense to compete.

[BadMofoPimp]

I don't even think Rob is even thinking of talking to Whitesides agent. They have plenty of other teams that will.

[PennytoShaq]

Yeah the whole reason you get Ibaka is so you don't have to pander to guys like Whiteside or overpay Biyombo.

[Skin]

Whiteside is still my #1 FA target. Between those 2 we'd have the best defensive frontcourt in the NBA. ...and they would be absolutely FINE offensively. Ibaka is a great rim protector, but he's not a great post defender.

If we can't get him, then I want us to get Horford.

[tiderulz]

I don't even think Rob is even thinking of talking to Whitesides agent. They have plenty of other teams that will.

you could stop right there. You have no idea what Rob is doing, who he is talking to

[MagicFan101]

Mahinmi and DD are the only big men I expect us to show interest in now that we have Ibaka.

I have been excited for an Ibaka + Vuc, Noel + Vuc, Myles Turner + Vuc or some sort of shot blocker + Vuc combo for a years. We finally have that. I (and I suspect Henny) want to actually see how that works. This was not a move to make Vuc expendable. This was a move to find Vuc the perfect wing-man.

[Max Power]

Gotta agree, Hennigan tends to play close to the chest. We have no real idea who and what moves the Magic are looking at, especially now with the Ibaka trade. We could be looking at Whiteside, although I think that's not the best move if this team pays any attention of offense. If Evan Fournier is our best offensive player this team isn't going anywhere.

Gordon is an up and comer, but I don't see him as a 24 ppg guy ever. Payton isn't even worth discussing as an offensive option. Vucevic and Ibaka should be a fantastic, balanced front court. If anything I think the Magic may look at Conley.


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[OrlandoDream]

We have no shot at him. More realistic target is Horford. trading for Ibaka I think ended that. We need to target Conley, resign Evan and add some scoring.

[Ohhwell8]

Yeah, we'd struggle on offense, which is an issue we will already have unless we see some big steps from some of the guys.

We signed Ibaka to pair with Vuc, if we were going to sign a defense center we would have gotten a better offensive PF.

[Mike1989]

If we paired Ibaka with Whiteside, we would certainly have a duo of proven shot blockers and athletic defenders.

Would Payton, Fournier/Hezonja, Gordon, Ibaka and Whiteside work offensively?

I have my doubts because Payton and Gordon are not particularly impressive outside shooters, and Whiteside doesn't offer much offense outside of the paint and attacking the rim. Now that is not an issue if you have two lights out three point shooters at SG and PF, and if we re-sign Fournier he fits one of those roles, but Ibaka would need to boost his three point percentage from last season's .326 if he is going to be relied on to help spacing on the court. As such, I would be hesitant to trust this line up on the offense end of the court. It would work defensively, but offensively I think we could find it difficult to score at times because teams would simply dare us to shoot and clog the paint. In a sense we would become like the Bucks last season. Defensively tough, but offensively lackluster.

Perhaps I'm being harsh, but I just don't believe any team can afford to have a lackluster shooting line up in today's NBA and hope to compete for and/or win a championship, and without serious shooting improvement from our young players, I think the ceiling of that team would be limited and we would soon be looking at ways to change things up.

[EAS Law]

I think Whiteside is fool's gold. He has nights and stretches where he looks great, but i believe that we will look back at him and wonder how he got maxed out.

I agree that Ibaka makes our need for a FA 4/5 exponentially lower.

The unfortunate thing is that we have a lot of wings that we believe in at the moment, but that frankly aren't good enough yet, and that a lot of the promising FA wings are quickly falling off of the market for us.

[Magic#1]

We could go after him, but I'm more concerned with his intangibles than his skills. I don't see the offensive concern as Ibaka is basically a stretch four.

[chosen12141]

the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

Screw that. Winning a game 65-55 is just s fun as winning it 110-90

Defense wins rings!!!!! Ex: the 2016 LaBrons!!

[Skin]

Tim MacMahon: Hassan Whiteside: “I really don’t think it’s about loyalty. It’s about the best situation for myself.” http://es.pn/28WS5iU – via Twitter espn_macmahon

Ethan J. Skolnick: Asked if he’ll stay in Miami if all things are equal. Long pause. “We’ll see.”

Ethan J. Skolnick: Hassan Whiteside says no state tax is a factor. “But you can get traded.”

Ethan J. Skolnick: Hassan Whiteside non-committal on which specific factor means the most. Compares it to picking a wife. “Got to have everything.”

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GO FOR IT HENNY! Form the best frontcourt in the NBA overnight!!!

PF Serge Ibaka, Aaron Gordon, Andrew Nicholson
C Hassan Whiteside, Nikola Vucevic, Stephen Zimmerman

[Bensational]

I don't think Whiteside is a real target, but that defensive combo under Vogel would be intense.

Offensively, they'd be fine. Ibaka can stretch the floor and Payton and Whiteside could run PnRs all night long.

[ralphie9898]

Yeah the whole reason you get Ibaka is so you don't have to pander to guys like Whiteside or overpay Biyombo.

maybe but Ibaka will still be a PF. Which means he will not always be in position to be a rim protector as he will have to chase even more and more mobile 4s who can also shoot out to the three point line. I would still look to see if we can get a defensive upgrade at the 5 spot so I would still go after Whiteside, Biymbo or Mahinmi.